Snow Angel TD V1.4

[Moderator]

20:10, 31st Jul 2010
ap0calypse: Rejected

Although it's a beautiful map with a beautiful goal, it's quite lacking and thus I cannot approve it.
Good luck, though!

 

[Vaarj]

Sounds great, mazing-TD's are the best by far.. i'll try this out as soon as possible..

 

[cowboyha]

First of all, best wish to your wife and I pretty sure your wife likes it. Second, I love that picture. This is a very fun TD map, still can't anything wrong and this map make me and my friends feel relax somehow.GJ.
After I play it a lot I will rate it.
I just have 1 question, What should I do when my hero[auto-mode] die?.Can I revive him somehow?

 

[ProfessorZmurge]

Too easy since you can block the units.

 

[Xsilver07]

It's still needs some work, im currently fixing the hero revive problem in auto mode. Also didnt know creeps werent making a path should you block, they seem to do it only ever so often, ill work on fixing that too. The artwork is from an artist over at deviantart, i'll post a link to it as soon as i can, credits for it should be in the map, if not ill add them in.

Thank you for the replies and ill update it again asap.

 

[ColdRocker]

After playing it, one major criticism is the terrain. Its unprofessional looking and does not give any of the players guidance. Perhaps divide the area into lanes or zones and split up the spawns for each player. Other then that lots of features and time have gone into the towers/descriptions and items/abilities. Probably need to play it abit more to work out balancing.

 

[Vaarj]

Well, i've tried it out now with 2 friends, and i have to say i'm disappointed..

First of all, since it was for 5 players i expected it to be "somewhat" challenging even on Easy.. the fact that we didn't have to maze much and the creeps only came from one direction made it all to easy as it was just a matter of building the early towers and upgrading one of them to get to the next tower and then replacing the first towers with new and better towers all the time..

This was more fitting to play in single-player as more players isn't really needed and you get more money then you could possibly need even with 3 players..

You should really force some more mazing, as of now it was downright boring after a while..

Another thing that bothered us was some of the spell-effects, for example i picked the Bloodsong-race, and the fully upgraded first tower that does the volcano is only really good at obscuring the vision for everyone, same thing with the tower that does the tornado-thingy, you should consider making them a lot smaller..

Also i think i may have found a bug with the final tower of the Bloodsong, when he morphs into ice i think he can both freeze and damage friendly heroes, as there were no boss up and all our heroes got frozen and killed eventually..


Oh well, i'll admit i had some fun with this map (even though my friends didn't as much) and i can see alot of potential in this map, so i hope you don't take this post too harshly, i'm really bad at pointing out the good stuff unfortunately

 

[Xsilver07]

Im not upset at your post Vaarj, thats exactly the input im looking for in order to make this map a quality map. I'm taking all things into consideration and will tweak difficulty and the mazing structure.

"After playing it, one major criticism is the terrain. Its unprofessional looking and does not give any of the players guidance."

Yes i apologize for the terrain, the TD orignally used a random terrain generator that i made to create an assortment of obsticals and height / unbuildable terrain differences. Unfortunately after testing through b-net, when the terrain was generated, it was causing a disconnect problem. So for now its removed and theres just a default terrain, but in a future version i plan on re-implementing this feature as it was alot of fun the first few tests it worked in.

What im working on now:
-General Bug fixes (Heroes not rezzing in auto-mode / towers damaging friendlies / final 3 boss battles need tweaking)
-Game Difficulty: So far this been my hardest objective, i need more extensive testing to see what exactly needs to be tweaked to make for enjoyable gameplay.
-Fixing the Random Terrain Generator.
-Speeding up gameplay to reduce downtime making for a faster more enjoyable game.


Keep the input coming im trying to get an update out by the end of the month with as many fixes as possible.

 

[Xsilver07]

Heres the update i promised before the end of the month, the game is much more playable and enjoyable now with the improvements. Alot of the bigger stuff is getting set back because of work and spending more time with my daughter, ill get it into the map asap. Thank you for playing and please DONT BE AFRAID TO GIVE CREATIVE CRITICISM! I want to make this map the best it can be.

 

[supertoinkz]

the girl is cute :3

 

[Seralas]

Hi silver,

I decided to try your map in single player, and here are some of the things that I found, and my settings:

Race chosen: Bloodsong
Difficulty: Easy


1) The creeps can still be blocked easily. Ok, normally they would bash their way through. But in this TD, the base towers (those towers that cost 5 gold, then upgrade up to volcano) have a LOT of hitpoints. So, the creeps would take a long time to kill them. However, if you decrease the tower hitpoints, the bosses would kill them easily.

2) I was on my way to passing in single player, on easy. I got to about lvl (30?) when I had to quit because there was a prac on in my lan
The problem is, if the map (any td map) is playable on single player, then it becomes ridiculously easy, as all the gold is concentrated in on area, so the player can build the most bad@ss towers. Its a weird balance bug.

3) As you say, I think the boss battles need work. Are the bosses only supposed to fight your heroes, or your towers also? I ended up making my hero run like !mad! to escape from the boss lol. Granted there are supposed to be 5 heroes, so I suppose that is realistic lol. I suppose I didn't really get the proper experience of it heh Although I did have all the best stuff for my hero (damage items, lifesteal etc)

4) Perhaps consider making like a square tile or something at each of the pathing points, so that people actually know that there are points that the creeps must reach. It will make it a lot more player friendly (although they would soon enough figure it out, if they didn't sink first lol).

5) Those volcanoes and whirlwinds are still a bit big


Well, thats most of the bad stuff that I noticed. Best to get it out of the way lol. Otherwise, its a pretty good td. Its got rather cool spells/heroes, generally good towers and the boss idea/concept as implemented here is new to me. I also like the fact that the players start off with a hero, and the hero actually can get some nice items to make them effective against creeps. I find it annoying to have to train a hero in TD's, after spending a lot to get the structure from whence they are trained.

Just a few ideas that I had when I was playing it...by no means complete

Cheers
Seralas