Ripples

[Shakti-lar]

Sooooooooooooooooo many animations!

 

[Shadow44]

This is insanely cool!!

 

[General Frank]

This is pretty damn cool. I love the simplicity of it.

 

[ShadowMidas]

Cool!

 

[Peacehagen]

Looks amazing and very useful to create atmosphere in a rainy zone

 

[Bleeq]

Great idea! It'll probably be one of those "how did I live without this" kind of things, lol.

 

[Remixer]

You know... I'm somewhat of a modeler myself... This looks neat. I love the simple yet gorgeous logic of the size-scaling with animations.

 

[tulee]

It looks really great in the video you posted. Wish more people would make these types of cinematic/terrain effects.

 

[MasterHaosis]

Awesome!
This also could be recolored to red to simulate blood effect!

 

[ILH]

@OVOgenez could you please attach a test-map on changing the animations? I don't seem to get mine working.

 

[OVOgenez]

@OVOgenez could you please attach a test-map on changing the animations? I don't seem to get mine working.

I used it here Storm v1.1 (Lightning and Thunder)

 

[ILH]

I couldn't get to make it play only the specific animation, even with the test map. But it is still very useful effect nonetheless.
Works in-game. Approved!

 

[OVOgenez]

I couldn't get to make it play only the specific animation, even with the test map. But it is still very useful effect nonetheless.
Works in-game. Approved!

Hm, i only tested this on 1.26a. What version r u using?

 

[ILH]

Hm, i only tested this on 1.26a. What version r u using?

Reforged.

 

[OVOgenez]

Reforged.

most likely they changed the behavior of animation play function(

 

[OVOgenez]

What if I rename "Stand - 100" to "qwerty100" (and so on with all of them), will this prevent the animations from changing?

 

[OVOgenez]

@ILH Try this, i have no Reforged.

• Animation - Play the "a100" animation for all doodads of type <Doodad Type> within (Playable map area)

 

[ILH]

@ILH Try this, i have no Reforged.

• Animation - Play the "a100" animation for all doodads of type <Doodad Type> within (Playable map area)

Still the same for me though, sorry.

 

[Bleeq]

@ILH Try this, i have no Reforged.

• Animation - Play the "a100" animation for all doodads of type <Doodad Type> within (Playable map area)

Why do you need to use the trigger?
I can't help but think there's another way of doing this without having 100 different animation sequences

ED:

Okay I see why you'd use trigger then to like.. set the intensity.
Maybe just 10 different types would be enough though lol.

I think as long as the sequence is set to loop then it should continue until turned off... When I gave my unit a spell sequence that wasn't set to non-loop, it would keep playing even after the spell was cast.

Another option might be using transformations, so the different intensities are label alternate, or ranks like with the Town Hall.
You'd have to do a lot of annoying stuff like make lots of dummy spells and units though.

 

[OVOgenez]

Why do you need to use the trigger?
I can't help but think there's another way of doing this without having 100 different animation sequences

Well, for 1.26a this is a working solution. Initially the idea was to be able to dynamically change the speed of particle appearance - the only working option is changing animations (or just making different models).
I don't know about Reforged, maybe there are other ways...

 

[Daratrix]

@ILH You'd probably have to play the animation by index instead of by name.

For Reforged, special effect animation speed can be changed so only a few variations (if any) would be needed. That depends on how it'd look when sped up/slowed down through.

 

[OVOgenez]

@ILH You'd probably have to play the animation by index instead of by name.

For Reforged, special effect animation speed can be changed so only a few variations (if any) would be needed. That depends on how it'd look when sped up/slowed down through.

From my tests, changing animation speed doesn't affect EmissionRate. Have you tested this in Reforged?

 

[Bleeq]

Animation speed definitely doesn't change emission rate

 

[Daratrix]

From my tests, changing animation speed doesn't affect EmissionRate. Have you tested this in Reforged?

I have tested special effect animation speed but I have not paid attention to how particle emissions are affected, so you're probably right.

 

[OVOgenez]

I made all "Stand" animations non-looping. Maybe this will prevent animations from changing (it does not affect particle emission).

 

[Greedy Procrastinator]

I know its not related, but I think about this...

 

[deepstrasz]

Time to build an ark boys!

 

[Bleeq]

It seems like reforged is very annoying with emitters.

I've been playing around with it but I can never get it to look similar to the previewer.

 

[OVOgenez]

It's terrible that they change the logic of processing models, the same things look different...

 

[Bleeq]

That's Refunded(tm) for you...

At least I've established:

• You can choose the animation by renaming them (I called them bob, jeff, fred) and then choose with trigger.
• the texture cycles much faster in the game. In the preview it looks like slow ripple outward, in game its just a quick wobble.
• even if you make Emission rate 1, animation sequence 4 seconds long, it emits a bunch of them at once.
  • then sometimes it just doesn't emit for ages and I think it turned off?
  • sometimes one emitter would be a constant stream, another one would do none for 4+ seconds

I'm gonna try one last thing then going to bed.

edit:
OKAY I've established another thing, when I deleted all the other sequences except bob, it would behave better.
So it just had Stand 0 and Bob, and the emitter only enabled for bob.
My guess is it was still randomly jumping from bob, to jeff, and frede etc, so getting random spurts of ripples. (they still cycle really fast but thats prob just reforged being shitty).

 

[Villagerino]

A nice view on Folkreath here

 

[Bleeq]

If you label the sequences:
Upgrade First
Upgrade Second
Upgrade Third

it will stick.
emission rate 1/s doesn't seem to be visible though (I did that for Upgrade First).
Second and Third worked fine, and could turn off by going back to Stand 0.

 

[OVOgenez]

If you label the sequences:
Upgrade First
Upgrade Second
Upgrade Third

it will stick.
emission rate 1/s doesn't seem to be visible though (I did that for Upgrade First).
Second and Third worked fine, and could turn off by going back to Stand 0.

This gave me an idea.
We can use reserved animation tags to control the emission rate.

Such as:
One Two Three Four Five
First Second Third Fourth Fifth

And using their combinations:
Stand One First
Stand One Second
...
Stand Five Fifth

Then we can specify 5*5=25 Stand animation variations.
If the maximum emission rate is 100, then each such combination will give an increase of 100/25=4:
Stand One First (4 emission rate)
Stand One Second (8 emission rate)
...
Stand Five Fifth (100 emission rate)

And the animation indices themselves (1,2,3...) can be used to randomize the appearance of particles, as it is done here.
Because now if we put a lot of models next to each other with a very low emission rate, we will see that particles appear at the same time.

 

[Bleeq]

The biggest issue is that the emission rate isn't accurate in Reforged. Or it looks nothing like the previews.

Think about emission rate of 1 per second. I think it used to emit 1 thing regularly each second. Then for 2 per second, it would emit @ 0.0, emit another @ 0.5 then loop @ 1.0/0.0
For 3 per second it would be 1 @ 0.0 , 1 @ 0.333, 1 @ 0.666 and so on etc. etc.

But in reforged is seems to randomly spurt them out during the period. The emission isn't regular. for 10 per second, you might get 5 @ 0.4 then 4 @ 0.6, 1 @ 1.0/0.0.

Basically once you start emitting more than ~5 per second (I can't remember the exact ) it starts too look very samey.

 

[OVOgenez]

Hm, i checked other thing.
The SetDoodadAnimationRectBJ function

• Animation - Play the "Stand - 100" animation for all doodads of type <Doodad Type> within (Playable map area)

has this body (1.26)

function SetDoodadAnimationRectBJ takes string animName, integer doodadID, rect r returns nothing
    call SetDoodadAnimationRect(r, doodadID, animName, false)
endfunction

and SetDoodadAnimationRect native has these params

native SetDoodadAnimationRect takes rect r, integer doodadID, string animName, boolean animRandom returns nothing

Looks like animRandom=false prevents randomizing anims(?). Maybe in Reforged its defaults true?

 

[BaiyuGalan]

100 Stand！

 

[hhh19190909]

Great!