Reducing the maximum attack speed

[Vunjo]

Is there a way to reduce the maximum attack speed? Like, in my map, you can have 1K agility, and items that increase attack speed too, so is there a way to reduce it?

+REP ofc =)

 

[ShadowFlare]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/jass-functions-413/vjass-system-unit-properties-142012/

Use this system.

 

[Tsaras]

Can someone tell me using this system, how will I get the property of a unit?
For example, I want to decrease a unit's armor by 30%, so I send to UnitModifyArmor function the unit and then I have to know it's current armor.

 

[Adiktuz]

maximum AS is dictated by the unit's attack cooldown I think... if your unit for example has an AC of 1 second, he can only attack for a max of 1 per second...

and using 0, will cause the unit to Instant kill another unit...

 

[Vunjo]

maximum AS is dictated by the unit's attack cooldown I think... if your unit for example has an AC of 1 second, he can only attack for a max of 1 per second...

and using 0, will cause the unit to Instant kill another unit...

Attacking is a spell, with no mana cost, and very short cooldown, meaning that setting it to 0 won't kill the unit instant. Since decreasing the cooldown, we increase attack speed, if the AC is set to 1 second, but the hero has some items that increase AS, or more agility, then AC will be lower.

EDIT: As far as I know from other posts, minimum AC is 0.08, which won't kill the unit instantly, and items cannot decrease the AC anymore.

 

[Adiktuz]

Are you talking of the normal attack? I have already tried setting AC to 0, it does instant kill...

and actually, AC don't get lowered in-game, it is the attack animation time that goes faster (or so they say...)

 

[Vunjo]

y I am talking about normal attack. The one that most units have. But how can it instant kill, I just don't get it. I tested it, still not killing the unit.
Talking about this:
Combat - Attack 1 - Cooldown Time: X

as far as I know that is the regular attack speed right?

 

[Adiktuz]

IDK, last time I did it (tried it on a creep), it instantly kills my unit... but that was a long time ago...

and based on observations (by other people), it doesn't go down in-game, only the attack animation speeds up... I tried to observe units in DotA, and it seems somehow true...

EDIT: tested it and it seems to be fixed now...

tested it using two heroes both 0.00 AC, one has 20 agi, the other 10000 agi and I dont see a problem of a MAX AS... the 10000 agi hero I used actually attacked so fast...


EDIT 2: I added another hero with 20000 agi and 0.00 AC, and it attacks faster than the 10K agi one... so I dont get the problem that you have with max AS...


Tested it with a hero both of 10,000 agi. one has 0.00 AC the other, 5.00 sec AC

and it proved that AC doesn't get lowered in-game, their animations where both fast, but the one with 0.00 AC attacked continously and the other has a 5.00 sec between each attack...

MEANING, AC will set the max attack speed that you can have...

 

[Vunjo]

Yes, I am trying to set maximum AS. I got a bit confused now, it can wait a while, because all I want to do is balance out "warrior" heroes from "casters". My triggerer is "making" DPS system, so if he ever completes it, I will be able to test the balance. And if "warriors" got way bigger DPS than the casters, then I would need to simply "reduce" the maximum AS.
P.S: That triggerer is offline, so I am not sure if he will ever do that =(

 

[Adiktuz]

look at my above post, I edited it with the results of my little experiment...

note: here's the experiment map...

 

[Vunjo]

ergh, right, that's deffinetly not instant kill, it's FAST kill xDD
Really fast kill* =)

I don't get the system that forsakener gave me, I don't know anything about jass =/

 

[Adiktuz]

but maybe an agi of 1000000000000 would make it look like instant... ^_^

anyway the only easy way to set max AS is by using AC, though AC cannot be changed in-game...

ofc if you have the knowledge you can also do it by cutomizing every AS bonus (then set a max AS bonus, and if a unit already has achieved max, don't give him anymore bonus), especially made easier if you can use the system forsakener linked...

well that was a vJASS system which enables customized unit properties... ^_^

or, use a customized attack, rather than using the normal one...

 

[edea8]

You're right..

Attack - Cooldown Time = (Maximum Attack Speed)

AGI gives Attack Speed base on your gameplay constants..

I therefore conclude, and tested..

Animation Backswing Point and Animation Damage Point decides your present attack speed

...since items that give attack speed reduces animation.

So you just need to configure it.