Reducing cooldown on 1.26

[ToldYouSo]

Hello, so I'd like to reduce abil cooldown through item gain.

As I suppose, first I need to know what abil cd I want to reduce. I should detect when abil getting learned, then store it into the boolean (true means it is learnt)
Then I need to detect that item being bought (done)
And then when being bought, I check for boolean value. If false, then I just simply swap his original abil id with the new one with lower cd. If value is true, I would additionally call for hero to learn it automatically to needed level.


So I wanted you to ask, is there might be any unwanted moments I d encounter?

 

[ThompZon]

The most obvious to me would be that any ability currently on cooldown would have its cooldown reset and if you have any "transform" ability you'd need to remember to make the ability permanent.

 

[Remixer]

1) The ability's cooldown would reset if the changing event triggers when the ability is on cooldown.
2) The unit loses the order issued to cast the ability whenever the change occurs.

I'd recommend just using ability levels as they would fix these two issues.

 

[ToldYouSo]

1) The ability's cooldown would reset if the changing event triggers when the ability is on cooldown.
2) The unit loses the order issued to cast the ability whenever the change occurs.

I'd recommend just using ability levels as they would fix these two issues.

F.e if you change skill level via trigger upon casting, would it automatically order unit to stop casting?

 

[Uncle]

F.e if you change skill level via trigger upon casting, would it automatically order unit to stop casting?

He said it fixes #2, which is what you're asking about. Why don't you just try it out? Should take 2 minutes to test.

 

[ToldYouSo]

1) The ability's cooldown would reset if the changing event triggers when the ability is on cooldown.
2) The unit loses the order issued to cast the ability whenever the change occurs.

I'd recommend just using ability levels as they would fix these two issues.

I've got another problem. If you try to manipulate through spell levels, the hero is able to learn new levels upon leveled up.

So if I was planning to reduce abil cd throughout getting item event. I added 3 new aditional levels, and manipulated with "getting item, drop item, and learn skill events". But I have no idea how to prevent paladin from just leveling up his abil just by getting leveled up.

 

[Uncle]

I've got another problem. If you try to manipulate through spell levels, the hero is able to learn new levels upon leveled up.

So if I was planning to reduce abil cd throughout getting item event. I added 3 new aditional levels, and manipulated with "getting item, drop item, and learn skill events". But I have no idea how to prevent paladin from just leveling up his abil just by getting leveled up.

You'll probably have to create two versions of each ability:
1) A learnable version which is a passive with a hidden icon once learned.
2) A usable version which is your actual ability. Add/level up this ability using triggers.

This all seems like a nightmare to manage. Makes you wonder, is version 1.26 really worth it?

 

[ToldYouSo]

You'll probably have to create two versions of each ability:
1) A learnable version which is a passive with a hidden icon once learned.
2) A usable version which is your actual ability. Add/level up this ability using triggers.

This all seems like a nightmare to manage. Makes you wonder, is version 1.26 really worth it?

You are probably aware that Blizzard claimed copyright issue over any maps created under Reforged?

My map is not protected, anyone could create his own versions.

BUT ILL NEVER give my map to Blizzard.

And moreover, many people still play on 1.26, there are illegal ladders on CIS region that are more popular than Reforged.

 

[ToldYouSo]

You'll probably have to create two versions of each ability:
1) A learnable version which is a passive with a hidden icon once learned.
2) A usable version which is your actual ability. Add/level up this ability using triggers.

This all seems like a nightmare to manage. Makes you wonder, is version 1.26 really worth it?

Uncle, how am I able to hide passive icon? I only know about disabling abil function

 

[CaChep]

Some old tricks

 

[Uncle]

Uncle, how am I able to hide passive icon? I only know about disabling abil function

If Button Position 0, -11 doesn't work on 1.26 then the Hero Attributes ability comes to mind.

 

[ToldYouSo]

If Button Position 0, -11 doesn't work on 1.26 then the Hero Attributes ability comes to mind.

I belive I dont understand about Hero Attributes. Some clarification please?

 

[Pyrogasm]

I belive I dont understand about Hero Attributes. Some clarification please?

The Hero Attribute Bonus abilities (for items that give them) do not show on the command card after being learned. There are a variety of such abilities (mostly item passives) that work this way, and those are just the first Uncle thought of.

You are probably aware that Blizzard claimed copyright issue over any maps created under Reforged?
...
ILL NEVER give my map to Blizzard.

Can you or anyone point to any map ever in the history of WC3 that has been claimed by Blizzard as their copyright after the mapmaker released it? They never even did it with DotA at the height of its popularity. Why would they start now or spend their (clearly) extremely limited WC3 resources pursuing such a claim? What do they even gain by attempting to contend that something you submitted to them is now their copyright? What enforceable action could they take against you?

I get I'm being a bit rude here but I think your take is absurd and is not something anyone should ever care about. That's just legalese they have decided to put in there to sound serious.

In all seriousness: Blizzard doesn't give any fucks about your map. Or mine. Or anyone else's.

 

[ThompZon]

They never even did it with DotA at the height of its popularity.

They tried and "failed", I would say:

Blizzard and Valve go to War Over DOTA Name

Blizzard once made a game called WarCraft III. Then someone made an awesome mod for it called DOTA. Then Valve decided to make a game called DOTA 2. Then Blizzard decided to make something called Blizzard DOTA.

kotaku.com

Dota trademark: Blizzard, Valve respond

Blizzard has vowed not to let Valve's trademark of the name Dota hold up the launch of its own DOTA mod for StarCraft 2…

www.eurogamer.net

But resulted in settlement:

Blizzard and Valve settle DOTA argument, Blizzard DOTA is now Blizzard All-Stars

Blizzard has dropped a short-and-sweet press release (reprinted below) informing us that it has landed on a "mutual agreement" with Valve regarding the contested "DOTA" trademark. DOTA, of course, stands for "Defense of the Ancients," which is a fanmade map and mode for Blizzard's Warcraft 3...

www.engadget.com

Valve, Blizzard Reach DOTA Trademark Agreement

Blizzard said today it has reached an agreement with Valve regarding the trademark issue with DOTA.

www.gameinformer.com

With the Reforged policy updates (and without Valve backing) noone has a legal chance if blizzard want to claim something.
But then again, why would bliz care?

 

[Uncle]

They tried and "failed", I would say:

Right, but that's Valve, and now you're entering the territory of millions and billions of dollars. Blizzard doesn't care about our broke asses. Gabe Newell on the other hand who owns both Valve AND Steam which dominate and control the PC gaming market, is a massive difference.

Then look at the conclusion of it all, some name changes, nothing drastic. Although, of course it helps to be Valve in that situation but I think the point is that only a company like Valve would be in that situation in the first place, the little guy is not a big enough threat to Blizzard for them to come after your game like that. In fact, here's a title that was taken straight from Warcraft 3 that I doubt Blizzard is even aware of: Legion TD 2 - Multiplayer Tower Defense on Steam

So although technically Blizzard can claim your content, you're dreaming if you think it's going to happen to you, you're not billionaire Gabe Newell status.