player 1 and 7 slots free like in dota

[popp]

hi everyone, i would like to know how in dota the guy set slot 1 and 7 empty to have arbitres but they're is still red comp and green comp in game.Lot of peoples say that it's neutral creeps slots etc but with this solution, you have black color for units on minimap even if you set the color to red and also instead of team name on unit you have unit name0.
If i use red player slot and set it to none in players when as arbitre i'm in game i will have the "control" of red units without being able to send orders, but i will see the units on minimap in white like evey units who is yours.
What to do then ?
thanks

 

[busterkomo]

The 6v6 version of DotA uses Neutral Extra and Neutral Victim as the players to control creeps.

 

[popp]

hvo-busterkomo u dont really understood what i say and want ?

 

[Lord_Sauron]

Just because a player doesn't have a human or computer controlling doesn't mean it can't be used. Just use triggers to name the empty slot, set its alliance settings with a team, and when it spawns order the units to attack move to a certain area. I hope thats what you were asking.

 

[popp]

maybe i'm an idiot in the way i'm writting things, or maybe no one read really what i wrote or maybe both :s

hi everyone, i would like to know how in dota the guy set slot 1 and 7 empty to have arbitres but they're is still red comp and green comp in game.Lot of peoples say that it's neutral creeps slots etc but with this solution, you have black color for units on minimap even if you set the color to red and also instead of team name on unit you have unit name0.
If i use red player slot and set it to none in players when as arbitre i'm in game i will have the "control" of red units without being able to send orders, but i will see the units on minimap in white like evey units who is yours.
What to do then ?
thanks

 

[NhazUl]

1. Do not double-post.

2. Explanation:

• Events
  • Time - Elapsed game time is 0.00 seconds
• Actions
• For Sentinel
  • Unit - Pick Every Unit in (Units Owned by Player 1(Red)) and do Actions
    • Loop - Actions
      • Unit - Change Owner of (Picked Unit) to Neutral Victim and Retain Color
• Player - Set Name of Neutral Victim to The Sentinel
• Player - Change color of Neutral Victim to Red
• Player - Make Neutral Victim treat (Allies of (Player 1(Red))) as an Ally with Shared Vision
• Player Group - Pick Every Player in (Allies of (Player 1 - Red)) and do Actions
  • Loop - Actions
    • Player - Make (Picked Player) treat Neutral Victim as an Ally with Shared Vision
• For Scourge
• Unit - Pick Every Unit in (Units Owned by Player 7(Green)) and do Actions
  • Loop - Actions
    • Unit - Change Owner of (Picked Unit) to Neutral Extra and Retain Color
• Player - Set Name of Neutral Extra to The Scourge
• Player - Change color of Neutral Extra to Green
• Player - Make Neutral Victim treat (Allies of (Player 7(Green))) as an Ally with Shared Vision
• Player Group - Pick Every Player in (Allies of (Player 7 - Green)) and do Actions
  • Loop - Actions
    • Player - Make (Picked Player) treat Neutral Extra as an Ally with Shared Vision

 

[popp]

thanks for your answer but this doesn't work at all, the units are in black on minimap, then same answer as before:

hi everyone, i would like to know how in dota the guy set slot 1 and 7 empty to have arbitres but they're is still red comp and green comp in game.Lot of peoples say that it's neutral creeps slots etc but with this solution, you have black color for units on minimap even if you set the color to red and also instead of team name on unit you have unit name0.
If i use red player slot and set it to none in players when as arbitre i'm in game i will have the "control" of red units without being able to send orders, but i will see the units on minimap in white like evey units who is yours.
What to do then ?
thanks

Ps: sorry for double post but no one answered
I like your signature :

Everyone has been a noob... so don't laugh at noobs. Make them pros and be proud of it.

 

[LeviathanReborn]

From what i experienced and understand, i think you are asking how to make the computer player slots unable to be seen in the WAITING ROOM before the game starts, no?

Its simple. This is what i did: Under Scenario Properties, set the controller for Red and Green to Neutral. Then, add the computer players to their respective forces, eg. Red to Sentinel, and use triggers to set the alliances for the Sentinel players to treat Red as ally and Red to treat the Sentinel players as allies with SHARED VISION. Also set the alliance of Red to the Scourge players to enemies and vice versa.

 

[Saishy]

From what i experienced and understand, i think you are asking how to make the computer player slots unable to be seen in the WAITING ROOM before the game starts, no?

Its simple. This is what i did: Under Scenario Properties, set the controller for Red and Green to Neutral. Then, add the computer players to their respective forces, eg. Red to Sentinel, and use triggers to set the alliances for the Sentinel players to treat Red as ally and Red to treat the Sentinel players as allies with SHARED VISION. Also set the alliance of Red to the Scourge players to enemies and vice versa.

He wants the red slot to be both computer controled and usable by player.

 

[popp]

yes i want them usables as arbitres but that's easy to do, the mystery is how to have on minimap red color and green color.

 

[Saishy]

yes i want them usables as arbitres but that's easy to do, the mystery is how to have on minimap red color and green color.

Even if you change their colors by triggers, they still black in minimap?

What minimap? The loading one or ingame?

 

[popp]

yes they still are black, the minimap in game of course.

 

[wd40bomber7]

When you do this, it changes the color, even on the minimap.

• Player - Change color of Player 1 (Red) to Red, Changing color of existing units

 

[NhazUl]

Yes. On the minimap only Neutral Hostile remains black and shows the name and level of a unit when pointed with the mouse. However, I cannot figure out how to show player names of the Neutral Victim, Neutral Passive and Neutral Extra.

 

[popp]

That's why i asked about this problem
i really wonder how dota guy did this map, for my point of view it's not neutral units it's red and green but with none statut, but then there is something to change about arbitre but dunno why.

 

[Izzen@WC3]

Gees this is one real pickle!
Under Map Properties you can chane name, color and contol of all players. I dont think the DotA guy has done anything else than changed these.
Just make Player Red computer controled and chande name.
Same with Player Green.
The attacks in DotA are made by triggers. Not a trigger pro so cant say them.
OF what i understood this is wht you wanted

 

[popp]

T_T
you didn't read anything of course, that's a real question not a noob question about world editor, then please read before post, you answered completely wrong about everything, but thanks for trying to help, but next time please do it really or don't do it.

 

[Izzen@WC3]

no1 seem to understand what you want, so MAYBE explain a little better...

 

[NhazUl]

No, it is clearly written. He wants red and green to be invisible in the waiting room in the game. Go to "Scenario -> Player Properties" and set their controllers to Neutral. Then put them in the appropriate forces and give them names. Everything will be okay, including the minimap colors you are so embarrassed about.

 

[popp]

i tried it 's ok in game, i mean no black units on minimap but the pb is that u can't have observers in the game.Then neutral is not the solution imo.

 

[Izzen@WC3]

mail and ask IceFrog

 

[popp]

Does anyone's got an idea about this problem please?

 

[NhazUl]

I think I do.

For the observers, yes, in Player properties their controller is a user, but they have disabled user control and no units. Sentinel and Scourge are Neutral Victim and Neutral Extra, this is what I've figured out.