Plague 2 Infected Isles V3.73 (P)

[Cazeoj276]

This Sunday

 

[Hashinshin]

Ok...

So palonians are hilariously overpowered. Mage guard require a simply obscene amount of gold to kill, and by the time you kill them they rebuild em and come back. If you ever have 2 players on the opposing team with mage guard your team pretty much automatically loses. 12 mage guard form an impractical wall for the zombies.

You really need to increase the cost of mage guard, remove their magic immunity, and reduce their damage. I honestly have to ban palonians from games because it's not feasible for us to beat any palonian player who knows what he is doing.

 

[Cazeoj276]

In reply to Hashinshin so far in every game that people have played as palonians I have not seen that they are any more powerful then the other races. I did notice that they are more effective against ships but I do not believe that they are any better then lets say the border guard. The border guards elite units are just as good as the palonian units and are just as easily killable. I have played as the zombies many times and not once have I run into a defense from anyone that I could not overcome. Only when entire teams band together can they defeat an experienced team of zombies. I will look into your case more with some tests but otherwise I do not feel they are impossible to defeat. Thank you for your comment otherwise

 

[trolman]

So is there going to be an TP3?

 

[crawlers]

In reply to Hashinshin so far in every game that people have played as palonians I have not seen that they are any more powerful then the other races. I did notice that they are more effective against ships but I do not believe that they are any better then lets say the border guard. The border guards elite units are just as good as the palonian units and are just as easily killable. I have played as the zombies many times and not once have I run into a defense from anyone that I could not overcome. Only when entire teams band together can they defeat an experienced team of zombies. I will look into your case more with some tests but otherwise I do not feel they are impossible to defeat. Thank you for your comment otherwise

caz neva seen mah uba human fortress ^^ no one beats that

 

[Cazeoj276]

@Trolman

There already is a Plague 3.

 

[trolman]

There is? Maybe you should upload it?

 

[Cazeoj276]

Dude it is uploaded. Lol search the plague in maps or search my name to find all the maps I have created.

 

[Eldrazor]

I think the ranger hero is imba... 1000 range just outranges pretty much everything and he can outrun everything as well... Also, make some special siege zombies that are better against walls, and can only attack walls... Mainly because it's very annoying, with the limitation of 12 selected units max, to order your units to attack the walls instead of trying to hit the things behind them...

 

[krisserz]

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[slashandtrash]

Jeeze

he has a point there w/ the wall zombies, caz.

 

[Cazeoj276]

I think the ranger hero is imba... 1000 range just outranges pretty much everything and he can outrun everything as well... Also, make some special siege zombies that are better against walls, and can only attack walls... Mainly because it's very annoying, with the limitation of 12 selected units max, to order your units to attack the walls instead of trying to hit the things behind them...

All ranged units have 1000 range, I can fix the unit movement speeds and make EVERY ranged hero have 1000 range. The new siege unit is a good idea, but if you haven't noticed already there is a unit built from the undead shipyard called a phantom, they specialize in destroying walls. I may add an early siege unit anyway, but that depends.

 

[migsilog]

How do you make the shadow fire essence?

 

[Cazeoj276]

How do you make the shadow fire essence?

Emberstone + Voodoo Jewels in slot 2 and 3.

Magic Essence is slot 1.

Go to the island to the very south east.

Go to altar.

ALTERNATIVELY,

There is a secret vendor on an island.

 

[Spank_my_kodo]

This is a great map. The only thing that seems be sort of a negative is the huge size of the map. I mean, every time zombies destroys any of the human's main base in the main and starting land, they always manage to have some builders escape and sail off to an other island which then it makes the game even longer because then the zombies have to start making navy units and start raiding those islands. And in result of that, it leads to having massive amount of units in the map and then it gets to a point where there are SO many units in the game that it starts to make the unit's movement speed decrease so much to the point where they take 5 - 10 seconds to make a move or move somewhere. I would suggest to make the map A LOT smaller. I played this game a few times and the only times I played the game always took more then 1 hour, never less tan that (unless the undead players or human players left the game). But other than that, the game is pretty neat and well made. Keep up the good work mate. I hope to see more versions from this game in the future!

 

[Cazeoj276]

This is a great map. The only thing that seems be sort of a negative is the huge size of the map. I mean, every time zombies destroys any of the human's main base in the main and starting land, they always manage to have some builders escape and sail off to an other island which then it makes the game even longer because then the zombies have to start making navy units and start raiding those islands. And in result of that, it leads to having massive amount of units in the map and then it gets to a point where there are SO many units in the game that it starts to make the unit's movement speed decrease so much to the point where they take 5 - 10 seconds to make a move or move somewhere. I would suggest to make the map A LOT smaller. I played this game a few times and the only times I played the game always took more then 1 hour, never less tan that (unless the undead players or human players left the game). But other than that, the game is pretty neat and well made. Keep up the good work mate. I hope to see more versions from this game in the future!

Your in for a GIGANTIC treat.

I am currently working on remaking this game ENTIRELY from scratch with enormous systems and ambitions.

It is my most ambitious project ever.

I am beta testing it internally as of now, if you want more info PM me.


And no, this game is not well made. It was my second map and I happened to cause a lot of balance and lag issues.

Thanks for the support.

 

[Alluton]

Is there anything to do whit shadow fire essence?

 

[Tal'Rarity]

Good job caz, hope you return to wc3 modding some day.

 

[Cazeoj276]

Maybe One Day

Good job caz, hope you return to wc3 modding some day.

Thank you kind sir I am joining the military shortly and honestly I believe that I will have a lot of on base time to make maps. So I am strongly considering (now that I am 22 making maps instead of 16) to get back into it. Who knows what might happen but I will probably figure out some new creations or even some remakes.

 

[MR.Tricky]

The game is very interesting especially when you have players who are really interested or rather say absorbed to the game. I had my fair share of fun pretending to be building some kind of kingdom (LOL). It's very fun and interesting though there are a lot more than few flaws and unbalanced things but nothing that cannot be fixed or done about.

The cave near the center of the mainland where there are a lot of strong(not really that strong) hostile units give way too much gold and wood that if you cleared the dungeon on your own. you'd have enough resources to play for a long while without worrying about lacking resources. maybe decrease the bounty reward for the units. I think they give 500gold+wood each. The sludgespitters(idk if i got the name right) attack range should be atleast 800-900 and not 950. towers can't reach them behind walls and the ranged units can do nothing bout it. Not really necessary but maybe it would make the game better? (LOL)

The elvish(pala-something) race's foot solider, the magic soldier footman guy deals around 200+ damage when max upgraded. I think it's too high for a cheap ass units xD. The limits on some higher tier units should be increased(some decreased). The tier 2 melee of the palasomething race is weak compared to the first one.

More unique items. The crafting feature can become greater if developed well. Perhaps a diversity in the crafting feature. All the units should be nerfed, i mean seriously, the hero does not matter at all at early games unless they have great skills that deal amazing damage or AoE. A hero would have difficulty defeating swarms of units, nerfing the units should give them some value. More heroes would also be great for each race, i haven't played as undead though.

Perhaps when you choose a warrior type hero would give you a tier 4 Melee Unit, one that suits the hero. You get the point (or not LOL).

The gold mines collapse mid game. They do not have enough resources to sustain a long game one. Perhaps after the gold mine collapse, you could have a function that will restore the gold mine or the gold mine heals when unused.

Villages should give bonus items or special units when you capture them.

The human and undead is evenly matched, maybe that the humans would have a better chance against the undead if the match was 2v2 or 3v3 because they can solo the mines. The humans have access to a higher amount of mines than the undead.

More hostile creeps. More islands. Better

The map was really fun and can be improved more in my opinion. 4/5

Edit: it turns out that i was wrong about humans having better chances with 2v2, just so happened that my enemy sucked then. Undead units have no food cost and easily spammed. and the undead gold mine have more gold than the ones humans can control.
it gets laggy and units start to delay as undead when you spam them.

Also, heroes should have atleast 1 aura to support their army

 

[Cazeoj276]

The game is very interesting especially when you have players who are really interested or rather say absorbed to the game. I had my fair share of fun pretending to be building some kind of kingdom (LOL). It's very fun and interesting though there are a lot more than few flaws and unbalanced things but nothing that cannot be fixed or done about.

The cave near the center of the mainland where there are a lot of strong(not really that strong) hostile units give way too much gold and wood that if you cleared the dungeon on your own. you'd have enough resources to play for a long while without worrying about lacking resources. maybe decrease the bounty reward for the units. I think they give 500gold+wood each. The sludgespitters(idk if i got the name right) attack range should be atleast 800-900 and not 950. towers can't reach them behind walls and the ranged units can do nothing bout it. Not really necessary but maybe it would make the game better? (LOL)

The elvish(pala-something) race's foot solider, the magic soldier footman guy deals around 200+ damage when max upgraded. I think it's too high for a cheap ass units xD. The limits on some higher tier units should be increased(some decreased). The tier 2 melee of the palasomething race is weak compared to the first one.

More unique items. The crafting feature can become greater if developed well. Perhaps a diversity in the crafting feature. All the units should be nerfed, i mean seriously, the hero does not matter at all at early games unless they have great skills that deal amazing damage or AoE. A hero would have difficulty defeating swarms of units, nerfing the units should give them some value. More heroes would also be great for each race, i haven't played as undead though.

Perhaps when you choose a warrior type hero would give you a tier 4 Melee Unit, one that suits the hero. You get the point (or not LOL).

The gold mines collapse mid game. They do not have enough resources to sustain a long game one. Perhaps after the gold mine collapse, you could have a function that will restore the gold mine or the gold mine heals when unused.

Villages should give bonus items or special units when you capture them.

The human and undead is evenly matched, maybe that the humans would have a better chance against the undead if the match was 2v2 or 3v3 because they can solo the mines. The humans have access to a higher amount of mines than the undead.

More hostile creeps. More islands. Better

The map was really fun and can be improved more in my opinion. 4/5

Edit: it turns out that i was wrong about humans having better chances with 2v2, just so happened that my enemy sucked then. Undead units have no food cost and easily spammed. and the undead gold mine have more gold than the ones humans can control.
it gets laggy and units start to delay as undead when you spam them.

Also, heroes should have atleast 1 aura to support their army

Thanks for the review!

Always appreciate a lot of constructive feedback, in the next version the Dun'Hath units will definitely give a lot less upon killing, we overlooked that before.

You see we just recently updated this game after years of no work, and a lot of the systems (such as the item combination system... yuck!) are almost 6 years old now, so naturally if it isn't working correctly we'll get around to fixing it.

Gold mines used to have infinite gold, but this would cause resources to have little to no meaning and often humans would just sit on their island with their gold mines perpetually feeding their impenetrable fortress, the undead hopelessly besieging them to the end of eternity. We feel that by making the humans less dependent on turtling and defensive playing that we have brought out a bigger problem in the design, which is the strength of human units v.s undead units. That is one of the problems we are working on currently, and balance is subject to change drastically in future editions.

Heroes have just recently been balanced, in fact they have been buffed. They are meant to take on more supportive roles, although their balancing is also subject to change greatly. I believe that once I update the item system a bit that heroes will become more useful, I'm not sure what I will do with the item system but there will definitely be buffs for most if not all of the items.

Again it becomes very hard to balance when your game has only 2 or 3 people who are experienced and/or good at the map, so naturally there are going to be flaws with balance.

If you ever want to play with us, friend me and my brother on battlenet (Deinne or Cazeoj on US East, we host this periodically).

 

[Acorn511]

Great map! I played it for the first time but got owned by the zombies tho.....

Looking forwards to the new version

 

[Cazeoj276]

I host it pretty often! Add me to your friends on Azeroth East (Cazeoj) and I will try to show you some stuff haha. I also run into issues when there is an imbalance of experience but that all comes to level out in time. Usually I play with the same group 2 or 3 times and there is a significant skill increase in that short span of a few hours.

 

[Agandaur]

Forum

Hi there, I was just wondering if this map has some kind of forum where you can find the secrets and stuff (like I just noticed you can summon an undead dragon :O, but dont yet know how :/)

I´m a big fan of medieval/fantastic human vs zombies map, like this one or war in the plaguelands. I see a great future with this map if you keep working on it ^^.

 

[Cazeoj276]

Hi there, I was just wondering if this map has some kind of forum where you can find the secrets and stuff (like I just noticed you can summon an undead dragon :O, but dont yet know how :/)

I´m a big fan of medieval/fantastic human vs zombies map, like this one or war in the plaguelands. I see a great future with this map if you keep working on it ^^.

Right now, there is no forum specifically for this map or the plague series in general, however I have gone through several of them haha.

But don't lose hope! I tend to host these maps often on battlenet, so if you friend cazeoj on US East and play some games with me I'll probably end up teaching you a few things about the map you probably didn't know.

 

[Agandaur]

Right now, there is no forum specifically for this map or the plague series in general, however I have gone through several of them haha.

But don't lose hope! I tend to host these maps often on battlenet, so if you friend cazeoj on US East and play some games with me I'll probably end up teaching you a few things about the map you probably didn't know.

Well I´m from Europe so I doubt I can add you on friend list .

 

[Cazeoj276]

Well I´m from Europe so I doubt I can add you on friend list .

That's unfortunate. I use makemehost to host usually, and that hosts the map on all realms. Maybe one day you'll find your way onto one of my games

 

[Agandaur]

That's unfortunate. I use makemehost to host usually, and that hosts the map on all realms. Maybe one day you'll find your way onto one of my games

I hope so ^^

 

[epickmen]

Add screenshots

Add screenshots please

 

[Cazeoj276]

Add screenshots please

Maybe soon

 

[Cazeoj276]

Hey guys.

This may be the final content patch. All other patches after this will most likely be balance updates, although I may do a final item system update. After all these years I am still floored by the amount of people I meet who just say that they enjoy my map, I am eternally grateful for the experience this community has given me.

As always, you can see me playing on USEast under the name cazeoj. I'll need testers for this version, as this update pretty much changed the game completely.

 

[Bloody Wolf]

Hey guys.

This may be the final content patch. All other patches after this will most likely be balance updates, although I may do a final item system update. After all these years I am still floored by the amount of people I meet who just say that they enjoy my map, I am eternally grateful for the experience this community has given me.

As always, you can see me playing on USEast under the name cazeoj. I'll need testers for this version, as this update pretty much changed the game completely.

i ran into a problem: if you try to play the game alone or even adding AI you will instantly win the game, wich means you cant test it in single player

 

[Cazeoj276]

i ran into a problem: if you try to play the game alone or even adding AI you will instantly win the game, wich means you cant test it in single player

The game really isn't meant to be played in single player, although I suppose I could make it so you don't insta win if you're alone.

 

[Bloody Wolf]

The game really isn't meant to be played in single player, although I suppose I could make it so you don't insta win if you're alone.

just to see if there are no bugs, glitches, etc
ya know, just the basics

 

[Cazeoj276]

just to see if there are no bugs, glitches, etc
ya know, just the basics

Maybe next version, there shouldn't be any bugs currently

 

[Bloody Wolf]

Maybe next version, there shouldn't be any bugs currently

appreciated m8

 

[Xthreo]

Really nice game, I just finished to play it on battle net (we were full house!!)
It was pretty nice... I was playing undead and I was abusing the poor mortals ^^. Then I realized the map was far more complex than I expected (with hidden areas, secret items, etc..) which is always a great surprise. This is why I came here to rate it: 5/5, excellent work and keep it going like that! The terrain might need some improvements but the map is quite well balanced (which is the hardest part in my opinion) and the gameplay is awesome!

 

[Cazeoj276]

Really nice game, I just finished to play it on battle net (we were full house!!)
It was pretty nice... I was playing undead and I was abusing the poor mortals ^^. Then I realized the map was far more complex than I expected (with hidden areas, secret items, etc..) which is always a great surprise. This is why I came here to rate it: 5/5, excellent work and keep it going like that! The terrain might need some improvements but the map is quite well balanced (which is the hardest part in my opinion) and the gameplay is awesome!

Thanks for the review! I'm glad you enjoyed the map.

The terrain is kind of sub par, but I'm not sure what I can do to it without changing the layout of the map or the areas inside of the map.

 

[Cazeoj276]

Some fairly big changes in this one. Updated balance, fixed some bugs, and added some better siege potential for mid game aggressive.

 

[RinKaWaII]

Can you add some AI in the next patch? I want to practice them and play them Solo. Most of People want AI right? If it impossible to do it can u guys give me some Custom Map Warcraft 3 client online for example Garena? Garena Lan now is gone and I can't search any. There is RGC but I think it's only Dota Maps that can only play there so Guys this Help make me happy if you solve my problem Can I?

 

[Tal'Rarity]

Can you add some AI in the next patch? I want to practice them and play them Solo. Most of People want AI right? If it impossible to do it can u guys give me some Custom Map Warcraft 3 client online for example Garena? Garena Lan now is gone and I can't search any. There is RGC but I think it's only Dota Maps that can only play there so Guys this Help make me happy if you solve my problem Can I?

gameranger, rgc also does warlock. un-official b.net servers maybe?

 

[rev14132]

+1 for AI

 

[skelguardian]

Definitely AI needed. There's not enough people wanting to play different maps than dota or Legion TD on gameranger... :/

 

[Cazeoj276]

AI probably isn't going to happen anytime soon guys, sorry to let you down but I haven't really fooled around with AI in the editor ever, and it would take a while to start it up even if I wanted to make it.

 

[neca]

who wants to host?

 

[Cazeoj276]

who wants to host?

I host on makemehost fairly often, just find me on US East under cazeoj.

A few others host as well, M1K4 hosts on US East I know.

 

[neca]

will anyone host or play this,i hosted it and nobody joined

 

[Cazeoj276]

will anyone host or play this,i hosted it and nobody joined

As I said, I play this pretty often on US East, you have to wait a while for a game to fill in most cases however.

 

[Peaces]

Still waiting for victory bug getting fixed on single player...

 

[Cazeoj276]

Still waiting for victory bug getting fixed on single player...

You're correct, my bad. That kind of escaped me this version.

EDIT: Just added this, it will be in the next version.