OK for the boy who always have a problem

[knight_godryu]

ok this problem comes out in my mind so i already know how to add custom number of stats by pressing Esc key (very nice ), now i want to know how i can change each attributes effect..for example strength gives health regen armor or something like that and agi gives more chance to evade and int give mana regen and mana pts and etc.. please tell me

 

[GunSlinger]

some of what you are looking for are found in advanced game constants and the others must be triggered(yeaaahhhhh!!! im a 14 y/o RPG mapmaker!)

 

[knight_godryu]

ok i'll look for it first

EDIT:uhhm...ok then tell me what i will need to trigger

 

[GunSlinger]

before that, is it health regen armor or health ragen AND armor?

 

[knight_godryu]

no that is just an example ok this is what i want for strength

more damage
health points
health regen
endurance or something like that
armor

 

[GunSlinger]

more damage: trigger it
hp: at advance->gameplay constants
hr: at advance->gameplay constants
i forgot what endurance is=P
armor: trigger

 

[knight_godryu]

ok thnx +rep for help



I'm very generous ^_^

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

Isn't it much easier to use upgrades? Those are muuuuch easier if you can't downgrade stats.

 

[knight_godryu]

actually i GOT ANOTHER PROBLEM >.<...since im making an rpg i am going to set the stats all to 0 and give them 5 lumber so they can add stats...my problem is i dont know howe weak or strong the hero should be to defeat a level 1 enemy because i saw an rpg that even if you are lvl 40+...you cannot even defeat the lvl 3 enemy >.<

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

That's called *balance* and that is the most difficult part of any map. Even when you are done (or you think that you are done), imbalance screws you up :S

 

[GunSlinger]

you should do what i do i just put the hero and the enemy on one place and let them fight and just see if the heroes too strong or too weak then id just change the stats.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

you should do what i do i just put the hero and the enemy on one place and let them fight and just see if the heroes too strong or too weak then id just change the stats.

That's the wrong way, it only calculates Hp/Dmg/Armor (im)balance.
You should play your heroes in multiplayer with your friend, and check too strong or too weak abilities/unit. Anyway, is this off-topic? :S

 

[knight_godryu]

no not really and i think if im right is it like..what if i make their stats the same? the stats of the monster and the hero is the same??

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

Try making all units strong enough that single player can slay them, but that multiplayer can slay harder. I recommend you to use upgrades for creeps, so more players will make them stronger.

 

[knight_godryu]

huh? i dont get it please explain

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

For example:
1 player - creeps have 100% hp, 100% damage.
2 players - creeps have 150% hp, 115% damage.
3 players - ....

Got it?

 

[knight_godryu]

you mean the strength of the enemy defends on the number of people? that means........another trigger?

 

[GunSlinger]

yeah.

 

[knight_godryu]

and that also means................another problem to ask

 

[GunSlinger]

probably.

 

[knight_godryu]

which means im asking whoever knows it right now xD

 

[GunSlinger]

Ok fine! but the hive is going to be backed up so you will have to wait

 

[knight_godryu]

ok

 

[GunSlinger]

just create an upgrade then give it to a unit then create a trigger to order the unit to upgrade for every player playing.

 

[knight_godryu]

upgrade?

 

[GunSlinger]

sorry but my editor is not working you have to find that yourself

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

I will post triggers asap. (As Soon As Possible)

 

[-SoulBurn]

~Void~'s tutorial on hero craft, including balance.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...o-craft-function-role-synergy-balance-134337/

upgrade?

See, there's ways of detecting how many players are actually playing. What @ Apheraz Lucent is trying to say is that the creeps strenght must be adjusted according the number of players in the game and that can be done by giving upgrades to the creeps depending on that number. Upgrades are like permanent passive abilities that doesn't show any icon and are apllied when researched (what you can do instantly and with no costs with triggers) to any determined unit-type units.

Example: If your map supports 10 players, you make a 9-level upgrade for HP Bonus. One player would be equal no upgrade. When 2 players are playing, you give the level one upgrade. When 10 players are playing, you give the upgrade with full reearch (9 levels).

That will make the creeps last aprox. the same amount of time they would last if only one player were attacking them. Otherwise creeps would die ridiculously fast and game would be easier in multi-player.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

I think it is easier to create trigger for more players = stronger enemies. As I said, i will give you map triggers, asap, because I am on Hive through my phone. When I get home, you will get triggers. Just tell me, how much players are in your map?

 

[knight_godryu]

uhhm...maybe nine