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waterfall seems to appear out of nowhere, and someone is going to bitch about melee units as creeps.
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MyPad's Challenge
MyPad's Challenge:
In the decorated war halls of Dampyhros, countless armies have fought to establish their dominance against others. Leave your mark in this hall of victory as others have before you.
All resources refunded at the end of battle.
By agreeing to wage a battle in the halls of Dampyhros, you agree to not hold the king of Dampyhros responsible for any losses that may ensue. Furthermore, the kingdom of Dampyhros is not liable for any additional resources that you, the combatant general, may expunge during your battle. Skybox, lightning bolts and rain effects not included in the actual map.
I wanted to make naval warfare one of the possible options for the players to choose during the battle. However, the constraint of making it a pure melee map wouldn't make it possible, since the Frigate and Juggernaught are not for sale by default. In addition, lowering and raising the bridge was an idea I was playing with, but that would require additional triggers and invalidate the melee map rating, so I opted instead for way gates, which would conceptually work the same.
v1.0:
- Released
- 3 Footmen and Sorceress camps (northwest and southeast)
- Replaced 3 Footmen with 2 gnolls (Do with that information what you will).
- Replaced 3 Footmen with 2 gnolls (Do with that information what you will).
- Night Elf Camps (Central Gold Mines) replaced with:
- 3 Kobolds
- 2 Kobold Geomancers
- 1 Kobold Taskmaster
- Added Gold Carts and Pile of Junk doodads
- Marketplace Camps:
- Removed 2 Bandit Lords
- Removed 2 Bandit Lords
- Added Hydra camps behind the expansion mines close to the main bases.
- Added Nerubian camps on the main base spawn locations.
- Added large rock spires to indicate unflyable terrain
- Added Wildkin watchmen near the Tavern.
- 1 of the 2 Wildkin will spawn a guaranteed Sentry Ward.
- Hiring ranged Heroes may cause them to auto-attack Wildkin.
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I might look into the waterfall. There should be a cliff right on the edge where the waterfall flows from.
I'll consider swapping out hostile melee units guarding gold mines with regular creeps.
I'll consider swapping out hostile melee units guarding gold mines with regular creeps.
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I think it's fine but I think melee units in general give more gold bounty than creeps so you need to consider that.
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Review - MyPad's Challenge
(Version August 16th 2023)
Synopsis: MyPad's Challenge is a melee map featuring a strange setup of Shipyards and Way Gates allowing players to move also through the waterways. While the idea of incorporating naval elements in Warcraft III is desirable, the execution is weak as there's no actual reason to go naval on the map. In the current state, the map does not meet the standard melee criteria.
Map Aesthetics: Lordaeron Summer tileset is one of the most iconic, natural-looking tilesets of Warcraft III, which is why it's a little weird to choose it in such a symmetric map. The terrain and environmental aspects of the map look rather synthetic as the ground is flat and the cliffs look inorganic. The tile variation is somewhat okay, though it could also be improved. Decorative objects have been used to make the environment look more man-made, but their placement and thematic continuity look a little scattered. There are also clear glitches in terrain ramps that should be fixed.
Map Layout: The layout is quite odd and it features way too many narrow chokepoints that are unhealthy for standard melee gameplay. The idea of including the naval aspect can work, but it is a tough job to achieve properly. In the current state of the map, there's no reason to go for ships as the Transport Ship (which is the only one available) has no places to unload the units - what's the point of the ships if they can only be moved around but not utilized in their practical way? Unguarded Mercenary Camps and Goblin Merchants are also very weird approaches - while I'm not entirely against that, the map seems to include just way too many random factors that do not align well with each other.
Neutral Objectives: The creep camps continue the route of strange combinations with mixtures of standard units mixed in with creep units. While this can be done to spice up the creep camps it needs to be done with care - why would a Sorceress team up with two gnolls? I'd recommend checking other melee maps or tutorials on how to properly create creep camps with correct difficulty, appropriate item drops as well as good placement and number of the units.
Map Gameplay: The gameplay tries to incorporate naval units into the gameplay, but fails to do so. The Transport Ships have no good locations to drop off the units. In addition, the waterways are very exposed to ranged ground and air units from high ground, making the ships vessels of death (their death). In addition, strange design choices, such as unusual units as creeps and unguarded neutral buildings cause further confusion for players.
Recommendations:
I'd recommend planning how you want to incorporate the naval aspect of the game into the map properly and think it could be carried out well. In the current iteration, it just makes the gameplay experience worse. Why use the Human Shipyards - they do not show up on the minimap like their Neutral Passive counterpart.
(Version August 16th 2023)
Synopsis: MyPad's Challenge is a melee map featuring a strange setup of Shipyards and Way Gates allowing players to move also through the waterways. While the idea of incorporating naval elements in Warcraft III is desirable, the execution is weak as there's no actual reason to go naval on the map. In the current state, the map does not meet the standard melee criteria.
Map Aesthetics: Lordaeron Summer tileset is one of the most iconic, natural-looking tilesets of Warcraft III, which is why it's a little weird to choose it in such a symmetric map. The terrain and environmental aspects of the map look rather synthetic as the ground is flat and the cliffs look inorganic. The tile variation is somewhat okay, though it could also be improved. Decorative objects have been used to make the environment look more man-made, but their placement and thematic continuity look a little scattered. There are also clear glitches in terrain ramps that should be fixed.
Map Layout: The layout is quite odd and it features way too many narrow chokepoints that are unhealthy for standard melee gameplay. The idea of including the naval aspect can work, but it is a tough job to achieve properly. In the current state of the map, there's no reason to go for ships as the Transport Ship (which is the only one available) has no places to unload the units - what's the point of the ships if they can only be moved around but not utilized in their practical way? Unguarded Mercenary Camps and Goblin Merchants are also very weird approaches - while I'm not entirely against that, the map seems to include just way too many random factors that do not align well with each other.
Neutral Objectives: The creep camps continue the route of strange combinations with mixtures of standard units mixed in with creep units. While this can be done to spice up the creep camps it needs to be done with care - why would a Sorceress team up with two gnolls? I'd recommend checking other melee maps or tutorials on how to properly create creep camps with correct difficulty, appropriate item drops as well as good placement and number of the units.
Map Gameplay: The gameplay tries to incorporate naval units into the gameplay, but fails to do so. The Transport Ships have no good locations to drop off the units. In addition, the waterways are very exposed to ranged ground and air units from high ground, making the ships vessels of death (their death). In addition, strange design choices, such as unusual units as creeps and unguarded neutral buildings cause further confusion for players.
Recommendations:
I'd recommend planning how you want to incorporate the naval aspect of the game into the map properly and think it could be carried out well. In the current iteration, it just makes the gameplay experience worse. Why use the Human Shipyards - they do not show up on the minimap like their Neutral Passive counterpart.
