Looking for terrainer

[Arth99]

Terraining is definitely not the best of my skills and my maps have always been rejected just because they had terrible terrain so I want this next project that I'm working on to be a success by having the best terrain. I’ve done most of the map already and the only thing left is the terrain.

I really don’t want to mess up this map as it is the only map that I have put many hours and have the biggest hopes for.

The map is in Eastern America in the year 2014 after a huge disaster has brought down most cities like New York, Washington DC and Philadelphia. This map is set in a forest area where some little towns lay in ruins. There are two rivers flowing through the map and they meet in the bottom right corner.

Here is a screenshot that I took of my current terrain

Can you please keep the general layout of the map it’s just the plainness of the terrain that I’m worried about.

I attached the current map file so the terrain could be changed.

 

[waveseeker]

I'm no expert, but i have been complemented on my terrain before, i could take a look, and see what i can do if you'd like.

 

[Arth99]

Great but make sure the map is big for masses of units

 

[waveseeker]

Oh, you want me to start from scratch, rather then prettify your current one?

 

[Arth99]

I attached the current map file so the terrain could be changed.

Get the map from the attachment

 

[waveseeker]

Thhaaaaats a bigger map then i had in mind 0.0

 

[Arth99]

You can make it smaller if you want but not too much. Because the aspect of this map is long range strategy.

 

[InfernalTater]

Btw waveseeker (i've seen u b4, sup ) if u want me to take this off of your hands, i could make the terrain for arth while you continue working on your murkie package
btw nice rep arth, i've never seen a RED gem rofl

 

[waveseeker]

Feel free TLI. Thanks. :]

 

[Arth99]

btw nice rep arth, i've never seen a RED gem rofl

one of the reasons I got it was that I had bad terrain on my maps so they all got rejected.

 

[InfernalTater]

You lose rep when your map gets rejected?

 

[InfernalTater]

I opened up your map, and it looks, essentially, like a melee map (except that your terrain is far too low quality to even pass as a melee map...)... Do you want me to keep the outdated forest trolls in your supposedly modern map? Whatever the case, I'll get to work this weekend.

 

[Arth99]

Do you want me to keep the outdated forest trolls in your supposedly modern map?

I put those as general creep location indicators. And no you can delete them just make sure that the general area of where they were is still there.

 

[InfernalTater]

I wasn't going to use them in the first place, I wanted to know if you wanted me to build the terrain of the map to be similar to that, with areas for unit placement and such. When I make the terrain, I'm going to delete all doodads, delete all units, flatten all terrain, get the terrain to a specific height level, and clear all tiles (basically, I'm going to entirely reset your terrain and then recreate it from scratch, because your cliffs edges on water are ugly as shit, plus I'm going to make a larger map)
Are trees in your map going to be destroyable/gathered for lumber? Because, if they're permanent, then I would be able to use doodads rather than the normal destructible trees (destructible limit of 6145 is very easy to reach on a 256x256 map)

 

[Arth99]

Are trees in your map going to be destroyable/gathered for lumber?

They are only for the lumber. And can you make rocks(the doodad) into 'trees' so they could be harvested in the same way please?

 

[InfernalTater]

Arth... you don't get lumber from rocks.
You probably want the rocks to be gathered as a stone resource. That cannot be done using doodads, unless you replaced the lumber resource with stone.
If you want the rocks to be harvested, you would have to create a triggered system for gathering, returning to the nearest drop-off, gaining resources, which would show on a leaderboard using an integer converted to a string, and you would have to trigger it to then send that unit back to the nearest rock... Considering how low your map-making skills seem to be (I do not mean this as an insult), I don't think you would be able to make a functioning system for this. I'm currently making a system very similar to this for a map of my own, which uses 6 different resources, however I don't want to lend my own complicated systems out for others to use, unless I've made the triggers specifically for that person. When you have multiple maps using the same trigger systems, people tend to credit whichever map they saw first, rather than whoever actually made the systems.

 

[Arth99]

Arth... you don't get lumber from rocks.
You probably want the rocks to be gathered as a stone resource. That cannot be done using doodads, unless you replaced the lumber resource with stone.

I will change 'lumber' to 'minerals' so I don't need no long complicated resource systems. thanks for the essay responce

 

[InfernalTater]

So, basically, it wouldn't matter if a person gathered trees or rocks, they count as the same resource in your map? (btw wood isn't a mineral...) That kinda sounds pointless IMO.

 

[Arth99]

So, basically, it wouldn't matter if a person gathered trees or rocks, they count as the same resource in your map?

Yes exactly

 

[InfernalTater]

Then I would advise not calling that resource Minerals, because wood is not a mineral. Rather, you should call your gold resource Currency and your lumber/rock resource Resources. And, having rock as a resource would complicate things, as rocks are sure to be part of the terrain, such as mountains, and you can't attack a terrain tile >.<

 

[InfernalTater]

Here are some screenies for you to look at for now, this is what I made in 30 minutes, making the terrain from scratch to look similarly to yours. This is not entirely finished, and was made in only 30 minutes, however I figured I'd upload something to satisfy your hunger.

Mini-map

Terrain Screenshot

 

[Arth99]

Consider the storyline when you make the terrain: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/map-development-202/modern-war-arth99-192760/
And its starting to look real good grats

 

[InfernalTater]

Consider the storyline when you make the terrain:

I don't see what the storyline has to do with the terrain, I only saw a single short paragraph which did not at all hint to the condition of the terrain.

 

[Arth99]

Post apocaliptic American countryside ... so slightly rebuilt but still in ruins.

 

[InfernalTater]

Arth, the problem with that is that, since your structures are being freely built without a designated place to build, creating ruins everywhere would take up valuable space which you would probably prefer to have for building.
Let's just keep this a natural zone not yet scarred, for the sake of having room to build in.

 

[Arth99]

Yeah thats fine, I just wanted the ground texture to be slightly scarred in certain areas.

 

[InfernalTater]

Btw I think you might possibly want this model for more realistic gold mining, I made it just now:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/gold-ore-mine-192931/
I actually made it for myself, but you might want it.

 

[Arth99]

Btw I think you might possibly want this model for more realistic gold mining, I made it just now:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/gold-ore-mine-192931/
I actually made it for myself, but you might want it.

Looks quite good but I'm not going to use it for this particular map. I will use it for my next map which is set in warcraft time.

 

[InfernalTater]

Uh, you don't need medieval time to mine gold. People still mine gold today. In your map you can use a drill engine or something, and the gold would add to your currency.

 

[Arth99]

I cant seem to find a suitable model. If you can find an suitable model than I will use the ore. :S