Are you the author of the map?
- Yes I am. It is written at the bottom of the description: I am both Nortander and Cleclejossstone, Nortander being my name ingame.
It took me a long time to read everything plus the links you both gave me, to think about it, and to make the changes necessary.
Sooooooooooo. I agree with pretty much everything and I tried to make as you said, except on the few points below:
The neutrals needs a lot of work. I think if you change the models of the neutrals, it would be great, like the Fighters, Bowers and so on. You should use the Grunts, and some other imported model on the races, not on the neutrals.
- Though I understand this logic, this is not really the point of this map. There are already plenty maps like this with customs models and units for everything and I find it rather boring actually. If I changed a few models for the creeps, it's because of the "story" behind the map. The orcs and elves that live there have been separated from their peoples for quite a long time and they have changed their habits, their clothes, their tools and so on... About the orcs, it's above all because I didn't wan't to put trolls so I had to figure what range units I would give the orcs of Leafshade. I totally understand your view but it's just my personal preference
What do you mean about that? I suggest you just put there 4.
- Oopsie, I knew I was forgetting something... :/ I'll fix it next update for now.
The starting base has a lot of trees, making the starting base more smaller.
- Again, it's because of my personal preference. However, I did reduce a little the amount of trees around the starting bases. But I above all changed the repartition of trees everywhere else to make things more symetrical and balanced.
The terrain wasn't good. I can see a lot of plain or empty area, like at the middle top of the map. Also, the way you put the tiles wasn't good enough. And the decorations of doodads needs to be improve.
- That, I agree! I put more attention of those details on the last update. I hope this is better now, everytime I add doodads and decoration, I feel like this is too much.
This is just minor but I think the term "Bower" isn't gramatically correct, you should use "Bowman" instead.
- Ahaha! Sorry, I do my best with English but that's not my mother tongue. I modified it, but I allowed myself a little play on words and wrote "boworc" rather than "bowman". My contradictory spirit!
There is a creep camp that reaches level 30 which is far too much in a Melee map in my opinion.
- I reduced the level of this camp you're talking about, though I personaly liked it as it was. To me, small maps are always frustrating because you finish them before your heroes get a chance to get level 10. So I always try to give them as much Xp and as much challenge as I can ^^
Make these camps symmetrical for balance issues
- They already seemed rather symmetrical to me but I reworked it anyway
You need good tile variation and this goes especially for melee maps, it just makes the map nicer to the eye.
- I agree, I just think I'm not really good in this matter
You need to set most of the creep camps "TAR" to "Camp"
- Thanks! I always wondered what was the use of this tool! Now I know.
Weeeeeell! Those were the things I didn't agree with. Or not completely. Or... Well, you see my point! Either way, I tried to please you each time.
And each point you talked about that is not mentionned here has been modified just as you wanted.
The description has evolved as well, obviously, though the screenshot of the map did not change for some reason
Anyway! Thank you, thank you, thank you for your time and consideration!
I hope you'll like Leafshade better now.
See you!