[Solved] Is this MUI?

[UndeadImmortal]

• Lesser Red Potion
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Lesser Red Potion (Item Bonus)
  • Actions
    • Set Attack_Damage[(Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))] = (Attack_Damage[(Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))] + 2)
    • Wait 120.00 seconds
    • Set Attack_Damage[(Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))] = (Attack_Damage[(Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))] - 2)

 

[deathismyfriend]

no it isnt. the triggering unit is MUI but the way u use it in the array index is not.

 

[UndeadImmortal]

Oh, thanks! I'll have to find another way then.

 

[Daffa]

It's not MUI, because you use array and wait on the trigger

 

[Imp Midna]

Triggering Unit is MUI and its the only event base action he is using. enlighten me. Where is the problem? looks totally fine to me.

 

[deathismyfriend]

Triggering Unit is MUI and its the only event base action he is using. enlighten me. Where is the problem? looks totally fine to me.

he uses an array to write the values to so if it fires multiple times the integer will change b4 the wait ends.

 

[Imp Midna]

he uses an array to write the values to so if it fires multiple times the integer will change b4 the wait ends.

ah, i guess thats where the the OP didn't specify what he actually wanted i guess. If he wants the potions effect to stack it will work perfectly (and i highly assume he wants them to). If he doesn't he will need to use a separate array for the potions or think of something different.

 

[deathismyfriend]

ah, i guess thats where the the OP didn't specify what he actually wanted i guess. If he wants the potions effect to stack it will work perfectly (and i highly assume he wants them to). If he doesn't he will need to use a separate array for the potions or think of something different.

the problem is they wont stack correctly. it will keep stacking until the waits end. then it will start to unstack. which is not a wanted effect.

 

[Imp Midna]

it will keep stacking until the waits end. then it will start to unstack.

Sounds like perfect stacking to me. stacks up when casted, unstacks when the wait ends.

 

[deathismyfriend]

Sounds like perfect stacking to me. stacks up when casted, unstacks when the wait ends.

well if thats what he wants then ok but it still is not MUI its MPI at best.

 

[UndeadImmortal]

No, i don't want them to stack.

 

[deathismyfriend]

No, i don't want them to stack.

ok lol

if u want it MUI u should index the whole thing then it will be MUI.

 

[Maker]

You can use this: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/spells-569/gui-unit-indexer-1-2-0-2-a-197329/

Then use value[custom value of triggering unit]

 

[MasterTrainer]

^ I just happened to pass by this thread...

When I use Unit Indexer I use [Custom Value of Triggering Unit] right? Do I have to use that same array for everything that has an array in my trigger to make it MUI?

 

[Binsu]

Well, have read tutoriials in MUI, try executing thatt trigger and try two units using the item Red Potion, if a conflict in trigger happens that is not MUI. MUI should work for multiple unit even how many times you used them, there will be no conflict in triggers. Thats what I know.

 

[UndeadImmortal]

Well, have read tutoriials in MUI, try executing thatt trigger and try two units using the item Red Potion, if a conflict in trigger happens that is not MUI. MUI should work for multiple unit even how many times you used them, there will be no conflict in triggers. Thats what I know.

I do know what MUI is, and i can't do that, 2 players are needed to test it.

You can use this: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/spells-569/gui-unit-indexer-1-2-0-2-a-197329/

Then use value[custom value of triggering unit]

Will try, thanks!

 

[Binsu]

I do know what MUI is, and i can't do that, 2 players are needed to test it.



Will try, thanks!

Try testing your trigger in an empty map and put two units, make them use the item. If there will be no conflict in trigger, thats MUI maybe..... but if there is not an MUI.

 

[UndeadImmortal]

Try testing your trigger in an empty map and put two units, make them use the item. If there will be no conflict in trigger, thats MUI maybe..... but if there is not an MUI.

Err... I mean the trigger that uses the Attack_Damage variable requires 2 players (not units) to run.

 

[MasterTrainer]

So you want it MPI?

 

[UndeadImmortal]

So you want it MPI?

Exactly.

 

[MasterTrainer]

If I may quote Bribe:
MUI -> Multi-unit-instancing -> can be done many times at once.

MPI -> Multi-player-instancing -> used by people who don't know how to do something MUI or anyone who simply doesn't need more than one instance per player.

And I've found this at the Helper:
Change each variable used to variable[Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit))] or something like that to make it MPI.

I think you should stick to MUI

 

[ap0calypse]

I think you should stick to MUI

Why is that?

If he wants each player to be able to use such a potion, he can just make it MPI and it will work just fine. MUI will overcomplicate it.
Judging from the variable he used (Attack_Damage[x]), his damage-system is already MPI anyway (and making the potion MUI will not do much in that case).
More information on what he's planning would be useful, though.

If you don't want the potions to stack, you can create a boolean variable that will check if the potion is already active or not.
In case a potion is active, give back the potion to the triggering unit. Else, increase attack damage.

I do know what MUI is, and i can't do that, 2 players are needed to test it.

You don't need 2 players to check for MUI (as 1 player should be able to cast it multiple times).
You do, however, need multiple players to test an MPI-system.
Here's a great resource for that: KLoader (this resource doesn't seem to be on the hive).

 

[MasterTrainer]

But MUI skills can be used by multiple units right without error? It should work even with different players right?

 

[ap0calypse]

Yes, of course. MUI is a grade higher than MPI, so everything MPI does also counts for MUI.
Why do you ask?

 

[MasterTrainer]

Not much reason as to why I asked... just because you asked 'why is that?' .

 

[Kitabatake]

MPI:

• Lesser Red Potion
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Lesser Red Potion (Item Bonus)
  • Actions
    • Custom script: local integer i
    • Set Integer = (Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))
    • Custom script: set i = udg_Integer
    • Set Attack_Damage[Integer] = (Attack_Damage[Integer] + 2)
    • Wait 120.00 seconds
    • Custom script: set udg_Integer = i
    • Set Attack_Damage[Integer] = (Attack_Damage[Integer] - 2)

 

[MasterTrainer]

MPI:

• Lesser Red Potion
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Lesser Red Potion (Item Bonus)
  • Actions
    • Custom script: local integer i
    • Set Integer = (Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))
    • Custom script: set i = udg_Integer
    • Set Attack_Damage[Integer] = (Attack_Damage[Integer] + 2)
    • Wait 120.00 seconds
    • Custom script: set udg_Integer = i
    • Set Attack_Damage[Integer] = (Attack_Damage[Integer] - 2)

I see a nice way of making it MPI... but let me just ask: why not just use another udg integer variable?

 

[UndeadImmortal]

MPI:

• Lesser Red Potion
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Lesser Red Potion (Item Bonus)
  • Actions
    • Custom script: local integer i
    • Set Integer = (Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))
    • Custom script: set i = udg_Integer
    • Set Attack_Damage[Integer] = (Attack_Damage[Integer] + 2)
    • Wait 120.00 seconds
    • Custom script: set udg_Integer = i
    • Set Attack_Damage[Integer] = (Attack_Damage[Integer] - 2)

Now that's great!
Thanks to everyone who replied btw.

 

[Kitabatake]

I see a nice way of making it MPI... but let me just ask: why not just use another udg integer variable?

Because a global variable will be overwritten if the same trigger is launched by another player before the wait is over.

 

[Binsu]

Now that's great!
Thanks to everyone who replied btw.

Im sorry if didnt help at all, Im not really use into MUIs...

 

[MasterTrainer]

Because a global variable will be overwritten if the same trigger is launched by another player before the wait is over.

I see, I see. Thanks for pointing that out =D

I just learned something new.

 

[ap0calypse]

Because a global variable will be overwritten if the same trigger is launched by another player before the wait is over.

But it's an array variable where the index is already local (triggering player), making the local variable kind-of obsolete.

The original trigger is equally MPI as your trigger. You're just adding more actions for no real reason.
Shadowing locals is used to make things MUI, not MPI.

 

[Kitabatake]

But it's an array variable where the index is already local (triggering player), making the local variable kind-of obsolete.

The original trigger is equally MPI as your trigger. You're just adding more actions for no real reason.
Shadowing locals is used to make things MUI, not MPI.

Ah yes, correct.
I mistook the "triggering unit" for "casting unit" which would refer only to the latest unit. So yes, the original trigger is MPI as well.

 

[thorhunter]

You don't need 2 players to check for MUI (as 1 player should be able to cast it multiple times).
You do, however, need multiple players to test an MPI-system.
Here's a great resource for that: KLoader (this resource doesn't seem to be on the hive).

You can test most MPI systems using shared unit control.

 

[deathismyfriend]

You can test most MPI systems using shared unit control.

even easier is the new JNGP 2.0 has a system like Kloader built into it.

Also ur first post Undead Immortal was already MPI and would work.
both MPI ways allows for stacking tho.

 

[UndeadImmortal]

Sorry for the misunderstoods, I almost forgot about MPI xD
This case is solved for now.

 

[deathismyfriend]

Sorry for the misunderstoods, I almost forgot about MPI xD
This case is solved for now.

lol np

only thing is that with MPI if another unit casts it or if the same units casts it it will cause stacking.

 

[UndeadImmortal]

lol np

only thing is that with MPI if another unit casts it or if the same units casts it it will cause stacking.

My map which consists of 12 players with 1 hero each, so yep, there will be no problem.

 

[deathismyfriend]

My map which consists of 12 players with 1 hero each, so yep, there will be no problem.

ok lol just making sure