Is this immoral?

[Gladius_Tito]

I want to import a model based off of WoW, but it is a WEAPON model, not a unit.

Would this be immoral, using a WoW weapon model?

 

[Trillium]

nah, it's absolutely alright.

you cannot post WoW models at resource section (skins/models), but you are absolutely free to use them in your map. moral has nothing to do with it. you can use whatever you want in your map, as long as you give credits

 

[Dionesiist]

Yes.

 

[Trillium]

Yes.

and why is that 'immoral', i wonder? wow model is just like any wc3 model, just higher quality =)
don't see any reason why it is worse than any of the models already in WC3. or made by other people.

 

[Gladius_Tito]

Okay, thanks for the help.

No need to post anymore.

 

[BlinkBoy]

nah, it's absolutely alright.

you cannot post WoW models at resource section (skins/models), but you are absolutely free to use them in your map. moral has nothing to do with it. you can use whatever you want in your map, as long as you give credits

That's completely FALSE, if he uploads a WoW model into his map, it gets inmediate rejection. The reason is that every resource most follow the site rules, no-game-exports is a site rule.

Please read the rules. I think in the rules we had an exception for WoW attachments or very deep model edits (over 75%)

 

[Slaydon]

ive heard that its because of the file size..

 

[BlinkBoy]

ive heard that its because of the file size..

the reason is: because it's ILLEGAL. You break copyright laws and the terms of use (EULA) by doing so.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Ehh, nobody would notice that you used wow model in a map, especially if it's some weapon.

 

[HFR]

Wrong. A sword with, let's say, 20 kb. Of course it's not from wow. But, when a mod/someone/noob-with-map-deprotector spots a Frostmourne with 200 kb, well, my friend, you're dead.

They are illegal, for sure. As well as uploading a wow model. Mods will not have mercy of those who use wow models in their maps, remember that.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

there is no technical differance between a weapon model and a unit model. one simply has an animation put to them and the other one doesnt. just because it is an attachment model does not mean it is less of a value or it is free for who ever to use/abuse

put it this way. if i take a screenshot of a movie, is that screenshot image mine by copyright? no

 

[Darkey]

Well, as mentioned by BlinkBoy, it's illegal. I myself wouldn't actually care that much about it, but rules are rules. Now, if you asked someone to make a weapon attachment based on the said WoW model it'd be a whole different story where everyone would agree and baby Jesus would smile upon you.

All in all, try to avoid using anything directly taken from WoW.

 

[Gladius_Tito]

Okay, I get it, it's illegal.

Can this topic end now??!!

 

[Dr Super Good]

Did blizzard not spotlight a map which used WoW exports? I froget.
Also is not one of the Director Choice maps a WoW model user?

I remember this argument a long time ago and the conclusion reached then was WoW models used in your map are allowed (you can upload it here and it can be approved) however you are not allowed to ask for help getting them or submit them as models or skins into the corrosponding resource section. Also, poor use of any models resulting in bloated map file size will result in a negative effect to your map ratting.

You can however use WoW icons completly freely and without any problems at all. Blizzard allows you to do so as 60% or more of the WoW icons are recycled WC3 ones with eithor different colouring, or ones which were cut from the betas/alphas.

 

[Trillium]

hm, didn't know using WoW models was illegal... DL's some map here a while ago, it had wow models

 

[Rui]

I believe we recently agreed that maps with WoW models are not allowed. It's only logical, considering any resource can be extracted.

 

[Trillium]

may i ask? most moderators don't play wow right? 'cos WoW has alot of WoW models... =P

 

[BlinkBoy]

Did blizzard not spotlight a map which used WoW exports? I froget.
Also is not one of the Director Choice maps a WoW model user?

I remember this argument a long time ago and the conclusion reached then was WoW models used in your map are allowed (you can upload it here and it can be approved) however you are not allowed to ask for help getting them or submit them as models or skins into the corrosponding resource section. Also, poor use of any models resulting in bloated map file size will result in a negative effect to your map ratting.

You can however use WoW icons completly freely and without any problems at all. Blizzard allows you to do so as 60% or more of the WoW icons are recycled WC3 ones with eithor different colouring, or ones which were cut from the betas/alphas.

We didn't reach any conclusion about it so don't say such things in the name of the staff. --edit sounds better now.

Here is what the staff says:

Game Exports
The direct exporting of resources from games other than Warcraft III is prohibited. This prohibition includes, but is not limited to, World of Warcraft®. No such resources may be submitted to THW. Forum discussions pertaining to the export or editing of resources from other games will be closed.

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All maps must be fairly fun and decently balanced.

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All maps must be made in English, must not contain overwhelmingly bad spelling or grammar, must contain a valid author and map name, and must contain a well-written description to give the reader a good idea of what the map is about. Imports, terrain, camera, and other visuals should complement the game.

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End of it, until the rules don't be modified you can't do such claims.

Also I see no map in the Directors Cut with a WoW model. You should post evidence before going out claiming things.

if anyone wants this open, you must talk with Franky or the administration.

-CLOSED for the shake of ending the discussion-