Iron Raven

[Revilo]

well this is my first skin that seemed worth keeping so comments and crit plz

 

[Sheephunter]

Looks alright.

 

[Revilo]

Good enough to submit ?

 

[Sephalo]

Good enough to submit ?

Whats the filesize?!
If its low.. I would deffo download and use it after you submit it!

 

[Revilo]

it is 94.3 kb

 

[Sephalo]

it is 94.3 kb

thats low! nice!

 

[Revilo]

Ty

ive changed the cloak and shoulders a bit (not sure about the shoulders

 

[Revilo]

Finished the legs

 

[NiRVaNa_87]

The wings are definitely CnPed from one of AR´s skins (http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=106709), the lighting and the shape of the wings matches perfectly with that skin. Also, that thing on the cape looks CnP too, it doesn´t fit at all with the rest of the skin.
EDIT: Oh, yeah, part of the legs are CnPed from that same skin too.

 

[Revilo]

the wings are not from that they are my own work

as for the legs i did take the bottom part

 

[NiRVaNa_87]

Could you post the uvw then? From what I can see you took those stuff from that skin, not just the bottom part of the leg.

 

[Revilo]

does a uvw mean an unwrap ?

 

[NiRVaNa_87]

yup, that´s it

 

[Revilo]

there you go then
Edit:and whats wrong with the cape ?

 

[NiRVaNa_87]

Yeah, looks like you stretched the wings a bit, and the legs are copied aside from that plate in the middle which looks out of place. And by checking the uvw, I also noticed you copied a small part of the ear too, small thing, but it´s still stolen.
The rest of the stuff are either free-handed or CnP from ingame stuff, which I don´t really care, but you should definitely take out those things you took from AR´s skin, that´s stealing, and is not tolerated here or anywhere.

I´m attaching the original skin for comparison.

EDIT: The cape has lots of junky sprites, I´m guessing you took that from a terrain tileset, right?

 

[Revilo]

Well whatever you may think the wings are my own design. And the thing on the cape i did ages ago whilst i was messing around

Edit:All content that is not my own or the original skins has been removed.

 

[NiRVaNa_87]

Come on man! Admit you stole those wings from that skin, it´s really obvious. You just stretched it vertically and recolored. The shading matches perfectly with the one I posted.
It´s also completely out of style with the rest of the skin, you didn´t even bothered to shade that stripe thing you did above those wings, heck even most of the stuff you made lack shading. And the fact that you also stole the legs previously is really concluding.
Stop stealing, remove those wings and make your own.

 

[Revilo]

There you go.

I would like to apologize to Anemic Royalty and anyone else i have offended it wont happen again.

 

[Revilo]

New Wip no more work that is not my own.

 

[THE_END]

So what's the idea/theme of this skin? Besides you taking the wings..whatever. Just give credits next time and there won't be problems. I like the look of it so far

 

[Revilo]

Im not sure if there is a theme maybe a sort of icy one. i just wanted something that looked good ingame really. Anyway changed the wings abit erm.... not sure what to do now.

 

[antihero]

Pick a color scheme and run with it. Looks like you're going for some kind of dark winter theme, thats fine, so you probably want to throw out that red trim around the cape. Also, I'd redo the design on the cape, since it clashes with the rest of the skin's quality.

 

[Revilo]

Well ive done as you suggested and changed the cloak edge not sure wahta to do about the main part though.....

 

[NiRVaNa_87]

So what's the idea/theme of this skin? Besides you taking the wings..whatever. Just give credits next time and there won't be problems. I like the look of it so far

No, he shouldn´t take anything from anyone altogether, not even with credits. And if he actually wants to get somewhere in the skinning, he shouldn´t take any ingame stuff either. Glad you admitted you stole those stuff, never do that again.

Anyway, about the skin, you need to define a theme for this to get further, as suggested previously. From what I can see from the few stuff you made, you also have to practise with shading, since you tend to make everything with flat colors.

I recommend you check out this tutorial (it´s a video) made by TDR. It explains a way to blend colors with the brushes, you should learn this technique in the way and you´ll do fine.

 

[Fingolfin]

I agree with nirvana, you really need to get some unity in colour here.
You have, what? Teal, red, gold, oxblood, blue, brown, black, purple.
That's a friggin rainbow.


Otherwise, i kinda like the cloak and the wings. You have something going there.

 

[Revilo]

Well an ingame screenshot its a bit less colourful and the red was the team colour.

Edit: And does anyone know if theres anything i can do about the the black bits around the edge of the wings ?

 

[NiRVaNa_87]

You have to set the model´s transparency to 1% with the triggers in the wc3 world editor for the alpha channels to work on that model

 

[Revilo]

Thank you for that info i always wondered how to get it to work.

 

[Revilo]

Well ive been trying to find a way to set the transparency but not suceeded so could someone show me plz (im not much good at triggering so a picture would be good)

 

[Fingolfin]

Adding alpha to a texture has nothing to do with triggers.
Just go to the "channels" tab in photoshop, and select alpha.
Everything white will be visible, and everything black will be invisible.

 

[Revilo]

Any idea what that is on gimp ?

 

[Fingolfin]

No, but try google "gimp +alpha layer" or something, and you'll propably find something.

 

[Revilo]

Well ive tried changing the alpha channel and it makes no difference.

 

[A.R.]

I go on holidays for a month and look what happens >:|

The colours, composition and detail are messy and random and clash with each other...
Hell, if you're going to steal my work, you could at least make it look good.

Now DON'T do it again.

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Well ive been trying to find a way to set the transparency but not suceeded so could someone show me plz (im not much good at triggering so a picture would be good)

You need to remove the Shadowmeld ability (or any ability that changes transparency) from the warden in order to make the 1% alpha trick work.

 

[Revilo]

Ty and sorry as ive said it wont happen again.

 

[NiRVaNa_87]

Create a trigger that has the following:
Events: Map Initialization (dunno if this is necesary, just put it anyway)
Action: Animation - Change Unit Vertex Coloring and set the transparency to %1.00
and you should be done.

This skin is really far from being finished, dunno why you posted it in the resources :\

 

[NhazUl]

Setting transparency to 1% will make your unit invisible. Duh.

Try with 30-50%, but I hate ingame transparency setting because the team color pops up and screws all.

 

[Revilo]

@ NiRVaNa_87 ill try that trigger later and im not sure why i posted it either but anyway

@NhazUl ill try both suggestions

ty for the help both of you

it worked with the 1% trigger

+rep to NiRVaNa_87 for the trigger
+rep to A.R for the shadowmeld hint
+rep to fingolfin for telling me how alpha channels work

 

[NiRVaNa_87]

Setting transparency to 1% will make your unit invisible. Duh.

No it doesn´t. 1% of transparency is nothing, you barely notice it, and it´s sometimes necesary when some alpha channels don´t work ingame