Ideas for a Tag Map

[Hexcellion]

Hello, our team has been developing a tag map featuring the orc peons as the builders against the undead or the pitlords. We need suggestions on wall tiers, or maybe some walls for the map, and also towers. Credits will be given in the map.

I repeat, you use orcs as your builder so walls and towers have to be associated or connected to orcs. Graveyards as walls wouldn't be a good choice that's why I created this thread.

Other types of ideas will be accepted too. Those include systems, etc.

If any more details are needed, feel free to ask me those things in here, by VM'ing or by PM'ing me. +rep will be given to those who will contribute to this thread. Thank you.

P.S. Towers or walls which use war3 included models are welcome.

 

[ChukoBread]

Hmm, What if when the orcs die, they become fel orcs or something?
Ahurrdurr

 

[Hexcellion]

Hmm, What if when the orcs die, they become fel orcs or something?
Ahurrdurr

Well, I've thought of that, but I'm still thinking about it. I'm thinking whether to create ghouls or skeletons as units/heroes when players die. It will be either fel orcs (corrupted orcs), or ghouls/skeletons.

Thanks for posting. +rep

 

[Sin'dorei300]

Tower types:

Orc Archer - Orc Ranger - Orc Mage-Archer - Orc Master-Archer

Ogre - Ogre Brute - Ogre Smasher - Ogre Magi-Brute

Troll Spearman - Troll Headhunter - Troll Berserker - Troll Spearmaster

Orc Storm Slasher - Orc Thunder Warrior - Orc Stormcaller - Orc Lightning Boss

 

[Hexcellion]

Tower types:

Orc Archer - Orc Ranger - Orc Mage-Archer - Orc Master-Archer

Ogre - Ogre Brute - Ogre Smasher - Ogre Magi-Brute

Troll Spearman - Troll Headhunter - Troll Berserker - Troll Spearmaster

Orc Storm Slasher - Orc Thunder Warrior - Orc Stormcaller - Orc Lightning Boss

Thanks. Any ideas for the walls? I currently have these in order: Barricade, Reinforced Barricade, Crate, Fortified Crate

I need an upgrade for the fortified crate. +repped

 

[Sin'dorei300]

Crate - Fortified Crate - Ironforged Crate(?)

Towers:

Apprentice Shaman - Adept Shaman - Master Shaman - High Shaman

Warmage - Elite Warmage - Warmage Boss

 

[Hexcellion]

Crate - Fortified Crate - Ironforged Crate(?)

Good idea. I'll need to find a model for that though. Could you suggest additions for the walls along with their models?

Thanks again. I'll probably add it to the map, but I'll need to find a model first.

 

[Sin'dorei300]

Towers:

Wyvern - Spirit Wyvern - Hell Wyvern

Orc Samurai - Orc Windwalker - Orc Flames' Samurai

Witch Doctor - Shadow Hunter - Voodoo Master

Shadow Priest - Conjurer - High Priest - Enchanter

Goblin Demolition Squad - Goblin Cannon Team - Goblin Blasters

Goblin Cyborg - Goblin Shredder - Goblin Terminator

Kodo Beast - Mounted Kodo Beast - Elite Kodo Beast

Catapult - Improved Catapult - Advanced Catapult

Tamed Wolf - Trained Wolf - Dire Wolf - Ferocius Wolf - Elite Wolf

Wildboar - Berserk Wildboar - Boarman - Boarman Bahser - Boarman Chieftain

Warhawk - Enraged Warhawk - Elder Warhawk

Tamed Mammoth - War Mammoth - Enslaved Mammothman - Enslaved Mammothman Warrior - Enslaved Mammothman Seer

Troll Axethrower - Troll Hunter - Troll Cannibal - Troll Tribesman

Troll Necromancer - Troll Necrolyte - Troll Necromage

Suggested Models:

Wyvern: Wc3 Wyvern
Spirit Wyvern: Wc3 Spirit Wyvern
Hell Wyvern: Wc3 Spirit Wyvern(with a red color)

Orc Samurai: Wc3 Blademaster
Orc Windwalker: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/samurai_by67chrome-blp-172443/?prev=search%3Dsamurai%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20
Orc Flames' Samurai: Wc3 Felorc Blademaster

Witch Doctor: Wc3 Witch Doctor
Shadow Hunter: Wc3 Shadow Hunter
Voodoo Master: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/troll-shaman-197901/?prev=d=list&r=20&u=Nasrudin

Shadow Priest: Wc3 Ice Troll Shadow Priest
Conjurer: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...urer-208746/?prev=search=conjurer&d=list&r=20
High Priest: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/witchdoctor-blp-125021/?prev=c=91&r=20&d=list&page=2
Enchanter: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...enhancement-196225/?prev=d=list&r=20&c=28&t=1

Goblin Demolition Squad: Wc3 Goblin Sapper
Goblin Cannon Team: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/mortarteam-60958/?prev=search=mortar%20team&d=list&r=20
Goblin Blaster: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/goblinheavybot-49045/?prev=d=list&r=20&u=Mc%20!&c=20

Goblin Cyborg: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/hero-cyberslayer-134084/?prev=search=cyber&d=list&r=20
Goblin Shredder: Wc3 Goblin Shredder
Goblin Terminator: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/goblinheavybot-48979/?prev=search=heavybot&d=list&r=20

Kodo Beast: Wc3 Kodo Beast Riderless
Mounted Kodo Beast: Wc3 Kodo Beast
Elite Kodo Beast: Wc3 Fel Orc Kodo Beast(?)

Catapult: Wc3 Orc Catapult
Improved Catapult: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/catapult-v2-121017/?prev=search=catapult&d=list&r=20
Advanced Catapult: Wc3 Demolisher

Tamed Wolf: Wc3 Dog
Trained Wolf: Wc3 Timber Wolf
Dire Wolf: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...evinearmy-132496/?prev=search=dog&d=list&r=20
Ferocius Wolf: Wc3 Dire Wolf
Elite Wolf: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/armoredwolf3-169168/?prev=search=wolf&d=list&r=20

Wildboar: Wc3 Spirit Pig
Berserk Wildboar: Wc3 Spirit Pig(bigger, more red)
Boarman: Wc3 Quilboar
Boarman Bahser: Wc3 Razormane Scout
Boarman Chieftain: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/razormanechief-blp-207532/?prev=search=boar&d=list&r=20

Warhawk: Wc3 Hawk
Enraged Warhawk: Wc3 Hawk(bigger)
Elder Warhawk: Wc3 Hawk(bigger, more blue)

Tamed Mammoth: Wc3 Mammoth
War Mammoth: Wc3 War Mammoth
Enslaved Mammothman: Wc3 Magnataur Warrior
Enslaved Mammothman Warrior: Wc3 Magnataur Reaver
Enslaved Mammothman Seer: Wc3 Magnataur Destroyer

Troll Axethrower: Wc3 Forest Troll
Troll Hunter: Wc3 Forest Troll Trapper
Troll Cannibal: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...38/?prev=search=forest%20troll%20&d=list&r=20 (?)
Troll Tribesman: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...95060/?prev=search=troll%20hunter&d=list&r=20

Troll Necromancer: Wc3 Forest Troll Shadow Priest
Troll Necrolyte: Wc3 Dark Troll Shadow Priest
Troll Necromage: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...486/?prev=search=necromancer&d=list&r=20&c=91

 

[Hexcellion]

Towers:

Wyvern - Spirit Wyvern - Hell Wyvern

Orc Samurai - Orc Windwalker - Orc Flames' Samurai

Witch Doctor - Shadow Hunter - Voodoo Master

Shadow Priest - Conjurer - High Priest - Enchanter

Goblin Demolition Squad - Goblin Cannon Team - Goblin Blasters

Goblin Cyborg - Goblin Shredder - Goblin Terminator

Kodo Beast - Mounted Kodo Beast - Elite Kodo Beast

Catapult - Improved Catapult - Advanced Catapult

Tamed Wolf - Trained Wolf - Dire Wolf - Ferocius Wolf - Elite Wolf

Wildboar - Berserk Wildboar - Boarman - Boarman Bahser - Boarman Chieftain

Beastman - Beastman Berserker - Beastman Bloodseeker - Bloodlusted Beastman

Warhawk - Enraged Warhawk - Elder Warhawk

Tamed Mammoth - War Mammoth - Enslaved Mammothman - Enslaved Mammothman Warrior - Enslaved Mammothman Seer

Troll Axethrower - Troll Hunter - Troll Cannibal - Troll Tribesman

Troll Necromancer - Troll Necrolyte - Troll Necromage

Hmmm.. Those are 3 tier towers. Let me give more info:

I have these towers:

Basic Tower -> Burrow Tower -> Arrow Tower -> Cannon Tower -> War Tower so I'll need 5 more towers to complete the tower tier.

For the walls, I have these:

Basic Wall -> Barricade -> Reinforced Barricade -> Crate -> Reinforced Crate -> Iron Crate? Idk about the iron crate, because there are already 2 crates, adding another one would make it too repeatetive. So for the walls. I'll need 6 more and for the towers, 5 more. I'm not counting the basic wall and basic tower because those are just the starting things you'll build.

It's like this:

Basic Wall -> 10 tiers of walls
Basic Tower -> 10 tiers of towers

Thanks again for posting. I'll use some of your ideas for the orc heroes instead.

P.S. I might add the orc samurai, catapult into the map. And btw, please keep the towers/walls orc-based. I won't need trolls being the hero because that wouldn't fit.

 

[Sin'dorei300]

Basic Tower -> Burrow Tower -> Arrow Tower -> Cannon Tower -> War Tower -> Voodoo Tower -> Siege Tower -> Elite Tower -> Fusion Tower -> Divine Tower

 

[Hexcellion]

Thanks again. I think I might add a siege tower to the list. But idk about voodoo, elite, fusion and divine though. Elite sounds a bit like a weak tower to me, probably the upgrade of basic tower but there's already a burrow tower.

 

[Alek]

How about:

Orc Burrow -> Orc Bunker -> Scout Tower -> Arrow Tower -> Improved Arrow Tower -> War Tower -> Improved War Tower -> Orcish Tower -> Improved Orcish Tower -> Orcish Destroyer

theyre simple tower upgrades but it should be okay

 

[Sin'dorei300]

Towers:

Orc Guard -> Orc Adept Guard -> Orc Elite Guard -> Orc Fortress Guard -> Orc Chieftain Guard -> Orc Elite Chieftain Guard -> Orc Royal Guard -> Orc Elite Royal Guard -> Orc Throne Guard -> Orc Warchief's Guard

Walls:

Wooden Wall -> Improved Wooden Wall -> Advanced Wooden Wall -> Stone Wall -> Improved Stone Wall -> Advanced Stone Wall -> Granite Wall -> Improved Granite Wall -> Advanced Granite Wall -> Final Granite Wall

Wall -> Improved Wall -> Advanced Wall -> Steelforged Wall -> Mithrilforged Wall -> Ironforged Wall -> Imbued Wall -> Enchanted Wall -> Godforged Wall -> Final Wall

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

Just a quick idea:
What if theres a structure which would trains units called an Orc Trainee.
There would be another structure called Training Grounds which would transform the Orc Trainee, to say, a Grunt.

There could also be a wall which has Spiked Carapace ability, which damages units upon hit.

Since you battle Pitlords, which are slow, Pitlords should have a sprint ability which would double its speed for catching.

For towers, hmm...
One that has automatic Ensare? Instead of attack it would have Ensare.
You should also have towers with slows, stuns, etc.

Maybe you could also have a structure for influence. Influence would make Neutral units help you. There would be a small chance to Influence units (Passive). By upgrading the structure, Influence would be stronger. It would be invulnerable.

Maybe in this tag, you can kill the Pitlord. If you do, you can drink its blood, making you a Chaos Orc. Chaos Orcs become 3 times stronger, but become hostile even to your former allies.

Try adding something unique in this tag.

 

[Hexcellion]

Just a quick idea:
What if theres a structure which would trains units called an Orc Trainee.
There would be another structure called Training Grounds which would transform the Orc Trainee, to say, a Grunt.

There could also be a wall which has Spiked Carapace ability, which damages units upon hit.

Since you battle Pitlords, which are slow, Pitlords should have a sprint ability which would double its speed for catching.

For towers, hmm...
One that has automatic Ensare? Instead of attack it would have Ensare.
You should also have towers with slows, stuns, etc.

Maybe you could also have a structure for influence. Influence would make Neutral units help you. There would be a small chance to Influence units (Passive). By upgrading the structure, Influence would be stronger. It would be invulnerable.

Maybe in this tag, you can kill the Pitlord. If you do, you can drink its blood, making you a Chaos Orc. Chaos Orcs become 3 times stronger, but become hostile even to your former allies.

Try adding something unique in this tag.

Orc Trainee? Sounds good.

I might make Spiked Carapace into an upgrade where your wall gets a spiked carapace passive when researched.

Okay, I've decided to use pitlords because of their connections to the orcs.

For special towers, idk. I think it would be better to just make it a single tier for the towers where they won't gain special things except from upgrades. Since I'll be adding heroes, so I might make orc trainee as a hero which can change after you get to level x then require some gold cost.

Influence... Idk about that. I think a hero is already enough and some towers for your base and of course your builder. Adding more units would make it too easy to destroy your enemies.

I might make it like this: when you die, you choose whether to become a fel orc/chaos fel orc or become an ancestral spirit guiding the orcs. You cannot do anything, but move around the map in wisp form or something which could be called spirit then you could teach your teammates like the location of the pitlord, but you can die. I might add a skill though, invisibility, stun, and steal. Still thinking of the possible skills to add to the fel orc and to the ancestral spirit.

Yes, I'm still thinking of several ways to make it as unique as possible while not making it too unrealistic or too confusing of a map.

Thanks for posting, and +rep.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

How about the drinking the blood of the Pit Lord?

Also, when dead, it could be there would be a unit called Gravestone. The players unit/hero can only be revived by allied heroes which are Shaman/Spirit Walker types.

 

[Hexcellion]

How about the drinking the blood of the Pit Lord?

Also, when dead, it could be there would be a unit called Gravestone. The players unit/hero can only be revived by allied heroes which are Shaman/Spirit Walker types.

Drinking the blood of the pit lord would make you a fel orc. I don't want players raging because of losing their bse just 'cuz they drank some blood and became the enemy of the orcs so I'll make it like this: when orc dies, he can choose whether to be a chaos fel orc or a spirit which can guide other orcs.

For the second one, ^

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

Well drinking the blood is optional and drinking the blood would make you the Pit Lords ally.

 

[Hexcellion]

Well drinking the blood is optional and drinking the blood would make you the Pit Lords ally.

I'll just make it that when the pitlord kills a peon he gets to choose from three sides as I mentioned: pitlord being a fel orc, the orcs being a spirit.

This is because if the pitlord dies, it's game over. No resurrections unless he has an item which gives resurrection or something.

Btw, any ideas for towers/walls? I still am in need of ideas.

 

[ChukoBread]

Towers:

Orc Guard -> Orc Adept Guard -> Orc Elite Guard -> Orc Fortress Guard -> Orc Chieftain Guard -> Orc Elite Chieftain Guard -> Orc Royal Guard -> Orc Elite Royal Guard -> Orc Throne Guard -> Orc Warchief's Guard

Walls:

Wooden Wall -> Improved Wooden Wall -> Advanced Wooden Wall -> Stone Wall -> Improved Stone Wall -> Advanced Stone Wall -> Granite Wall -> Improved Granite Wall -> Advanced Granite Wall -> Final Granite Wall

Wall -> Improved Wall -> Advanced Wall -> Steelforged Wall -> Mithrilforged Wall -> Ironforged Wall -> Imbued Wall -> Enchanted Wall -> Godforged Wall -> Final Wall

I think that you are suggesting to make this a TD map with your suggestions.

 

[Urlock]

Towers are VERY important in a tag map. You need a way to fight back against the chasers.

 

[Ocelot]

How about cookiez

 

[ChukoBread]

^This!

 

[Hexcellion]

How about cookiez

Click my sig. This is so out of topic lol. Unless you're trying to tell me to add mushroom towers, cookie-throwing cannons, etc.