Icestrike Ver Empathetic Emu

[Devalut]

Inb4 "Why is there no range indication for AOE?"
The spell is both AOE & Single Target, I find it clunky to have the range indicator IMO, but I will add it if you sissies wanna wrassle about it.

 

[Pyrogasm]

IMO the impact point for ground targets should be higher.

 

[Devalut]

From your observations of the gif or from playtest?

Also what did you think of the removal of the Error message when no targets are found?

 

[Pyrogasm]

.gif, I didn't download the map. I think it's fine not to have an error message as long as mana and cooldown are refunded for failed casts.

 

[Diegoit]

Hells this idea is OP, gj!

 

[Devalut]

@Pyrogasm
>.gif
Gif is unfortunately misleading as the target frames models are originally doodads so they're maybe 50 units off to the left in the first gif, second gif is without the height fixed.

>I didn't download the map.
Forshame! I made this map last year(late september?), I was hoping to hear your reaction on the "Spell pages" I made for options, I based it on Risk of Rain's artifacts.

>I think it's fine not to have an error message as long as mana and cooldown are refunded for failed casts.
Nope, I based my logic on vanilla 2D space abilities, you miss, you pay the price, which reminds me I don't think I filtered invisible units...

Lastly, what are your thoughts on the initial cast trigger's filtering for a no target cast?
I used one initial unit group to catch units, and then a named group to finish to job.

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@Diegoit
Did you try any of the "Up-shins?"

 

[deepstrasz]

What's a detrimental dolphin?

The .gif is fake. Things happen in another dimension angle.

Tooltip missing. Unacceptable. A book of lousy nothings.

Love it that it has auto-random attack/attack ground option.
Great that it can be cast immediately after being cast.

Women villagers were not left impressed. No stains have been made on them.

One thing moved me though... Two golems were gangbanging a turtle in the southeast. One of the golems couldn't take it anymore and fell but not without giving birth to two littler ones that then together with the turtle continued the intense action on the remaining bigger golem.

From here on you could do all sorts of derivative spells.

wanna wrassle about it.

 

[Devalut]

@deepstrasz
>What's a detrimental dolphin?
Alternative to Numbers

>The .gif is fake. Things happen in another dimension angle.
Go to triggers and turn on Camera, press Esc

>Tooltip missing. Unacceptable. A book of lousy nothings.
My deepest apologies my lord, It shall not happen again

>Love it that it has auto-random attack/attack ground option.

>Great that it can be cast immediately after being cast.
Cooldowns and mana cost are set for testing, balance is up to the discretion of the user.

>Women villagers were not left impressed. No stains have been made on them.
>One thing moved me though... Two golems were gangbanging a turtle in the southeast. One of the golems couldn't take it anymore and fell but not without giving birth to two littler ones that then together with the turtle continued the intense action on the remaining bigger golem.

>From here on you could do all sorts of derivative spells.
Be sure to keep me updated on that, I'd love to hear more.

 

[deepstrasz]

Be sure to keep me updated on that, I'd love to hear more.

What's with the green martians? You brainwashed by H.G. Wells or something?

Anyhoes, here goes:

• The blue balls could upon impact release a nova of blue balls going about in all directions. This, either for each initial blue ball hitting a target or for all (initial) blue balls hitting one target.
• The blues could bounce from target to close-by target for a while. This could be a trait of them ballies going from air to ground units or the other way around.
• You could have those clouds be following drones that photoshoot your enemies as you approach them. After a while the clouds disappear. The idea is that the clouds can be ordered to attack whichever target(s) you want by recasting the spell. Another spell will not be started unless the cloud timer(s) expire(s).
• With the idea above in mind, the clouds quickly pour their blueness around the caster in a circle fashion and whoever gets into those takes damage and could be slowed or something.
• Another thing you could do with ^ is to shift the zone of cloud interest by the point you cast the spell on. If you cast on the hero, the effect will be as mentioned above, if you cast somewhere in front of the hero or somewhat far in any direction, the clouds will shift their leaking towards there in a sort of V, U, whatnot fashion, meaning the damage will be more due to the projectiles being more localized/grouped.

 

[Daffa]

What's up with the filesize?

 

[deepstrasz]

What's up with the filesize?

Well, how do you think big golems and turtles would be getting their juice with low file size, eh?

 

[Devalut]

@Daffa
There is an mp3 in there for an unrelated trigger.

 

[FUJI]

Good spell concept. Didn't test the spell on actual in-game for performance yet. By judging the looks of your triggers... you may want to improve your variable prefixes and names for readability.

Also why's the periodic interval is defaulted to 0.02? It's not that big deal but in terms of performance you may want to set it to 0.03 for the standard but it's on you. You can also include preloading those sfx paths.

You may also want to make the filtered units to be configurable though, one must like to target structures or even magic immune units. (allies too) opening for more spell variations. Same goes to attack type and damage type. A user may want the strength attribute to be used on damage instead of intelligence... You may also consider this.

In cast, constant values don't need to be part of the indexing, you can directly refer the config constants inside the loop unless if they're depending on the caster's levels just like the damage.

In loop, I just skipped some projectile's trajectory maths here as I'm not aiming for in-depth look for those things as long as they're definitely working as it should be. However, you can familiarise yourself using get x and y instead of using points so that you wouldn't need such leaks removal and points conversion to x and y. This may require you to use a lot of custom scripts though it is performance-wise and efficient.

Aside from that, I like the simplicity of your spell in terms of visuals. Also a very big improvement that we can now manipulate special effects instead of dummies

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Why is there no range indication for AOE?
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Spoiler

Nice spell

 

[Devalut]

@jakeZinc
>You may want to improve your variable prefixes and names for readability.
Ah, Prefix being "FrBi" right? What should be changed?

>You can also include pre-loading those sfx paths.
Just create all four and destroy them? Sounds marvelous, I can manage that.

>You may also want to make the filtered units to be configurable though, one must like to target structures or even magic immune units. (allies too) opening for more spell variations.
What would a configuration for filtered units look like?

>In cast, constant values don't need to be part of the indexing, you can directly refer the config constants inside the loop unless if they're depending on the caster's levels just like the damage.
Ah, my intention was to allow for customized cast triggers, seems i've forgot take that out. thank you!

>However, you can familiarise yourself using get x and y instead of using points so that you wouldn't need such leaks removal and points conversion to x and y. This may require you to use a lot of custom scripts though it is performance-wise and efficient.
I'd love to hear more on this if you ever do take the time, improving it's performance would be cherry.

>Also a very big improvement that we can now manipulate special effects instead of dummies
Huge! I love that I don't need to import units or models!
Thanks for the Hearty feedback, this is stuff I need to hear!

@FeelsGoodMan
It's both a single target, and point target ability, I find it clunky to try and hit a single target so I removed it. Also thank you for the lovely comment!


@deepstrasz

Spoiler

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

It's both a single target, and point target ability, I find it clunky to try and hit a single target so I removed it.

Haha I was merely joking, but yeah I wanna wrassle about it. I prefer mud wrassling.

 

[Devalut]

@FeelsGoodMan

 

[Dominus15]

Is the one that says "config" the same as the one that says "c" alone?

 

[Pyrogasm]

No, the C variable is not for configuration and instead temporarily stores the z-value of FrBi_Point[6]. It's the top line of the screenshot you showed there.