Hunted Deamon: WIP

[HeretoDLstuff]

This is another skin im working on, if you cant tell what it is, i skined the deamon hunter into the hunted deamon ....Pleas give he tips on what i need to improve. I suck at shadeing, and suck at details, but its only my second.

 

[iristle]

The eyes intersect, it looks like somebody has stretched his eyes and clamped them to his nose, kind of without the clamp.
Try to alpha the demon head on his weapons, the square just makes it look plain weird.
Also, it looks nothing like a demon, more like fire of sorts...

 

[Dionesiist]

No offense but it sucks. It's like you didn't even try to do a skin that would fit in warcraft

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

The eyes intersect, it looks like somebody has stretched his eyes and clamped them to his nose, kind of without the clamp.

Ok, ill fix that. Some ome else complained about it too.

Try to alpha the demon head on his weapons, the square just makes it look plain weird.

Yeah, I know....My program sucks, dosnt let me alpha....Course I got ai differnt program that can, so ill fix it when I can.

Also, it looks nothing like a demon, more like fire of sorts...

I igree, what do think would help that? What do you think would male it more "deamon like"?

No offense but it sucks. It's like you didn't even try to do a skin that would fit in warcraft

How helpfull. You just gave a detailed descption of how to improve it. I igree it sucks, but when I tried it, it fit OK with warcraft. Its only my second skin, and if you could HELP me make it better, I would love that...Saying it sucks is just stateing the obviouse, and not helping.

 

[Dionesiist]

Maybe try and shade more and define his muscles and stuff

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

This is another skin im working on, if you cant tell what it is, i skined the deamon hunter into the hunted deamon ....Pleas give he tips on what i need to improve. I suck at shadeing, and suck at details, but its only my second.

That would, make it batter youre right. can you give me some tips on shadeing, and possibley link to a tuturial about it?

 

[iristle]

Maybe the program he is using doesn't HAVE such tools, I recommend using GIMP, unless you are using it already, but I can't tell, so there you go.
I'm not sure what would make it more 'demon' like, I don't really think this model is meant to look anything like a demon unless the model is edited.

 

[Dionesiist]

You don't need any other tool than the brush for shading... Just paint your base colour (I usually cover the entire surface with a dark tone of the colour, except eyes, nose, mouth etc. so it wraps correctly, and then go to lighter tones... but that's up to you really)... So, set the opacity lower than 100%, because it works best with low opacities giving your skin a smooth look... And continue until
you are satisfied Hope that helped, and don't forget: NEVER use Dodge and/or Burn, nor Smudge... I've seen texture artists that can use it, but I doubt you can control it in such a way like them... oh and visit Wc3campaigns.net for more skinning tutorials

 

[iristle]

You don't need any other tool than the brush for shading... Just paint your base colour (I usually cover the entire surface with a dark tone of the colour, except eyes, nose, mouth etc. so it wraps correctly, and then go to lighter tones... but that's up to you really)... So, set the opacity lower than 100%, because it works best with low opacities giving your skin a smooth look... And continue until
you are satisfied Hope that helped, and don't forget: NEVER use Dodge and/or Burn, nor Smudge... I've seen texture artists that can use it, but I doubt you can control it in such a way like them... oh and visit Wc3campaigns.net for more skinning tutorials

Nuff said.¬¬

 

[SuPa-]

Instead of recoloring the ears, remake them. Their color doesn't really fit in with the rest of the other tints of red

 

[camel's_hump]

Instead of starting by blocking in everything with a dark color, I like to use something inbetween, aka something that you will both lighten and darken with your shading.

 

[Dionesiist]

Hmm, maybe I'll try that myself

 

[THE_END]

Yea you really have no shading at all on this skin
The chest is just a blob of color and the face has no real definition
The pants look like they took about 5 minutes to do with Paint
The hair is done in a similar fashion it seems
Make more shading, add more details, and make things actually look like what they're supposed to represent
Hair should look like hair, not scribbles

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

How do you suggest I do it then? Pluse, I know HOW to do shadeing, I just cant get it to make him look relistic...And each time I add details, I screw up the shading....Maybe i Should switch from jpg to tga.....@ The_end: I know i suck. I know im a loser.....i KNOW that would make this skin better...all this time i have been working on it, but it keeps turning out horrible, so im not posting them....

 

[THE_END]

How can you become better if you can't take suggestions from other people?
Keep posting WIPs
It is impossible to make a skin in one shot, there's always revisiting

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

Im still working on it. I just have other things to do too. :emote_smile:

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

W00t!!

After looking at other skins I got what you all ment. I have redone him many times, most of them to worth posting, but at last!!

How can you become better if you can't take suggestions from other people?

I read you post again. I hant read it right befor. You didnt GIVE advise, And yes i was taking theres, I just wasnt posting my wips, And i didnt understand them.

 

[Kimbo]

Um... i suggest you follow the base of the original skin...and..learn to properly shade...

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

?????? Pleas explain what you mean, and define "properly shade"
Also remember its just another WIP, its not done......But THE_END said to listen to people..And my POINT was that every ones telling me to play the Piano with out telling me what the piano dose, means, or what keys to press.

 

[Kimbo]

Er.. By going and googling art tutorials on shading techniques?

and it being WIP doesnt mean my points are invalid, they still stand. =/

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

I know youre point still stands, I was telling other people to try not to flame my hide off ( THE_END) Becuas I still havnt done the things people suggested.

i suggest you follow the base of the original skin

??

 

[Kimbo]

meaning, don't just draw over it an ignore what is beneath, use the original skin as a guide on where to shade and place things.

 

[SuPa-]

IDK if this would work, heretodl, but I think it'd be cool to make the fire blades transparent by alpha skinning them a bit.

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

Im haveing trouble alpahing ANYTHING..

 

[THE_END]

Oh also
To make hair, look at a tutorial
To make his pants, leather or whatever material, look at a tutorial

 

[SuPa-]

Nvrm... the alpha skinning wouldn't work
When I tried it, it just made it into lots of dots as a dark gray, or not even see-through as a light gray >.<

 

[Ket]

omg looks ugly

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

You really shouldnt revive old threads, but since youre an old member with lots of posts and rep, and were helping me with my skin, im sure no one will care this time! ;-)

EDIT: And the fact that other n00bs have revived older ones even!