Guardian (Variations)

[Misha]

say.. what's with the mickey mouse ears?

 

[Stefan.K]

Waaay too much polygons. I think you can achieve the same results with less polygons, believe me. And the wrapping could be fixed a little. Now it looks blank and monotone.

 

[Mike]

All is great, just give it more serious and powerful gun.

 

[Mister_Haudrauf]

say.. what's with the mickey mouse ears?

You will know why these are there if you look at this

Waaay too much polygons. I think you can achieve the same results with less polygons, believe me. And the wrapping could be fixed a little. Now it looks blank and monotone.

Really? But the Quality will get lost. And i don't know which wrappings would be suited best for a machine.

All is great, just give it more serious and powerful gun.

He doesn't need one. He shoots from his 'eye'.

 

[Mike]

Ah, its based on art. Sorry, i forgot to read the description. Then better not to make changes.

 

[deepstrasz]

It's comical.
4/5.

 

[Misha]

You will know why these are there if you look at this

i know, how about you make it closer to how it actually looks? and right now, before another spoon starts telling me to stop bothering about unrefined models <w<

 

[Roland]

I was triggered by the name "Guardian" cause I thought it'll be druid... but hey, this model is quite funny cause of the Mickey Mouse ears.

 

[Misha]

@Mister_Haudrauf , i'm still finding it odd with how you did the 'ears' when they really are more of an 'amphora-handle' in shape.. i'd really like you to try and get them right.. sorry if i annoy you with that

the rest of your model is really good. even though that lense could use being less round and with less polys

 

[TheGoldenGoblin]

The ears look like oreos. Other than that a really cool model, well done!

 

[Mister_Haudrauf]

Hey @Misha Happy now?

 

[Misha]

@Mister_Haudrauf yes, i would say i am. but you could re-tweak the head wrap to match the detail of the ears now, if possible

 

[General Frank]

4000+ polygons is a bit overkill don't you think?
Also, some animations are a bit bland, might want to improve on that.

 

[General Frank]

- 12000+ vertices and 3000+ polygons are way too much for a wc3 model, even if this has a unique touch.

- Walk, death and attack animations are very bland and seem very stiff, even for such mechanical unit like this.

- Adding some more attachment points for 'hand' and 'foot' would be nice.

- Adding some more and better defined particle effects - the current ones don#t make the model justice.

That's a big list of suggestion, but I guess you can tackle those. In the mean time I will get this to 'awaiting update'.

 

[Mister_Haudrauf]

- 12000+ vertices and 3000+ polygons are way too much for a wc3 model, even if this has a unique touch.

Way too much you say? Then your jaw will be on the ground, if you look at this (Polycount: 14356). Now tell me again this is too much.

- Adding some more attachment points for 'hand' and 'foot' would be nice.

Why should i add attachment points for the 'hands'? He has no hands only six legs and feet.

- Walk, death and attack animations are very bland and seem very stiff, even for such mechanical unit like this.

- Adding some more and better defined particle effects - the current ones don#t make the model justice.

I can work on that, but i tell you that i will upload another 'Guardian'-Robot like this. So even if the model would be approvable i would have wanted it to be put to 'Substandard' as long as the other model isn't uploaded.

 

[General Frank]

Way too much you say? Then your jaw will be on the ground, if you look at this (Polycount: 14356). Now tell me again this is too much.


Why should i add attachment points for the 'hands'? He has no hands only six legs and feet.



I can work on that, but i tell you that i will upload another 'Guardian'-Robot like this. So even if the model would be approvable i would have wanted it to be put to 'Substandard' as long as the other model isn't uploaded.

- Please don't compare your models to someone else's work. Models are moderated case-by-case.
The other model is not moderated yet and who says it will also not be commented about polygon count?

- For the attachment points, just look how they have some it with the Wolf models. They technically do not have 'hands' but the front paws have hand attachment points. You can also make 6 foot attachment points with modifiers.

- Well it is up to you, but you should always strive for something better than 'Substandard', if you can do it then just do it.
If you cannot be bothered to do it then it is really up to you and we won't help.

 

[Mister_Haudrauf]

- Well it is up to you, but you should always strive for something better than 'Substandard', if you can do it then just do it.
If you cannot be bothered to do it then it is really up to you and we won't help.

You didn't understand me there. I said even if the Model is approvable i would want that not approved until the other model is also in the bundle.

I also said that i will work on the current model, until it can be approved.

- Please don't compare your models to someone else's work. Models are moderated case-by-case.
The other model is not moderated yet and who says it will also not be commented about polygon count?

Okay. I will not do that again. ever.

- For the attachment points, just look how they have some it with the Wolf models. They technically do not have 'hands' but the front paws have hand attachment points. You can also make 6 foot attachment points with modifiers.

Point for you. Okay. I will add 'hand' attachment points.

 

[General Frank]

You didn't understand me there. I said even if the Model is approvable i would want that not approved until the other model is also in the bundle.

I also said that i will work on the current model, until it can be approved.



Okay. I will not do that again. ever.



Point for you. Okay. I will add 'hand' attachment points.

Sorry for the misunderstanding then. Good to see you have actually the will to make something great.

 

[Mister_Haudrauf]

Hey @General Frank , What would be an acceptable number of Vertices and Polygons?

I ask, because i have edited the model and got the numbers to be Vertices: 11696 and Polygons (Faces?): 3898 without destroying the look it currently has.

I can probably get it even less (Smaller Number) without destroying the look, but i still wanted to ask.

Edit: Got it now to be Vertices: 9101 and Polygons (Faces?): 3033. I don't think i can get it smaller than this without destroying the look.

 

[General Frank]

If you manage to reduce to 3000/3500 and use the 'clean' function of Milkshape vertices will go down too.

 

[General Frank]

Although the polygon count is very high and the animations are a bit janky, is it approvable and works in-game.
Good job.

 

[Doomcore]

Looks like London Monitor of Wolfenstein to me. Oh yie cool.

 

[SparkleArts]

I use this model for the first mission of my campaign

 

[SparkleArts]

Please also make a decay animation because after he dies it just disappears.Please make a decay animation !!