Game of Thrones Risk 1.4

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StoPCampinGn00b 01:03, 15th Jul 2015 [TD]

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Comment - My Review​

Verdict - Approved, 3/5​

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Map Moderated - Game of Thrones Risk v1.2​

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[Danishjumper]

Really cool risk! I love the layout, and it totaly merges the Game of Thrones feelings into a Warcraft 3 scenario! Well done!

The terrain is nice and simple with a good amount of detail, so there still is plenty room for hundreds of soldiers, marching through the fields and rivers!

 

[DUTY OF RS]

You gotta rename from: Game of Thornes to ; Game of Thrones...

 

[nokiaman]

You gotta rename from: Game of Thornes to ; Game of Thrones...

Thanks for pointing out that cringe mistake

 

[Arad MNK]

Wow! Seems like a Nice risk! BUT:
The map is over 8mb Limit! I know it can be hosted in GHost, but what about others? Fix it please and it won't be rejected for that!

 

[Ardenian]

Fix it please and it won't be rejected for that!

I don't think a map is only rejected due to high file-size that makes it unplayable in multi player ( except Garena).

Tho, I strongly recommend you to reduce the file size to make it playable in multi player with e.g. MMH or Ent.

 

[Shadow Fury]

Wow! Seems like a Nice risk! BUT:
The map is over 8mb Limit! I know it can be hosted in GHost, but what about others? Fix it please and it won't be rejected for that!

Whaaat? We moderators are not so mean to reject a map for this reason
Ah right, I may take a week or so to review the map (don't ask me why, just trust me)

 

[nokiaman]

I don't think a map is only rejected due to high file-size that makes it unplayable in multi player ( except Garena).

Tho, I strongly recommend you to reduce the file size to make it playable in multi player with e.g. MMH or Ent.

Optimized it to 7.5MB so should be palyable now, thanks

 

[Ardenian]

Optimized it to 7.5MB so should be palyable now, thanks

That's good to hear!

 

[Arad MNK]

Optimized it to 7.5MB so should be palyable now, thanks

Great to hear it

 

[Ardenian]

Review Game of Thrones Risk v1.2 Visuals - Ambience and Aesthetics Overall the terrain is a good base and you greatly recreated the Games of Thrones landscape and shape. A big thing missing is overall tile variation and the use of doodads. Some areas, especially between two control points, are just empty, no tile variation, no doodads. Another thing, nokiaman, the pathing is just awful. Units trained at Rooks Rest, for example, get stuck due to the pathing. I would strongly recommend you to add a custom pathing, that means remove the pathing from all buildings and doodads and add custom ones. It just feels odd to walk through castles and doodads. Maybe take also a look on Hive's terraining tutorials, they can greatly help you. ( CTRL+F to search for keywords like 'terrain' Gameplay and Features The gameplay isn't very unique and known from other popular risk maps. You greatly created custom units for each House that give you a good taste playing as your favourite House from the series/ books. But, these units do not differ a lot from each other. They are basically all the same, having one ability ( mostly critical strike) and usually a lands bonus. It could be a good idea to add more unique units to allow players to develop strategies. nokiaman, in its current state it is only clashing an army against a control point. Result Game of Thrones Risk is a good map especially for Game of Thrones fans. Overall, the game is very simple and lacks features as well as variety in unit abilities and unit types. nokiaman, keep on working! I vote for Awaiting Update

 

[cleavinghammer]

Reach Archer and Stormlands Archer have Flaming Arrows but no mana.
Dornish Archer tooltip says they have poison arrows.
The middle island in the Summer Islands has no shipyard.
Ramsgate can't build anything.
A unit that leaves Harrenhal's circle of power is teleported to Ten Towers.
Lizard lions don't attack.

 

[nokiaman]

Thanks for pointing these out Will release a new update today.
You must have used Crannogmen in the neck, Lizard Lions dont attack them

 

[cleavinghammer]

Yeah, that was it.

Not sure how likely this is (I played it alone) but having too many houses under you causes them to crowd each other out during the income message.

One of the archer units (with the WC2 Ranger portrait) has both Flaming and Poison arrows. Seems to me Flaming is objectively better than Poison.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

But, these units do not differ a lot from each other. They are basically all the same, having one ability ( mostly critical strike) and usually a lands bonus.

In risk maps, this is usually what's recommended to keep balance and familiarity. The most popular risk map, risk devo, is commonly regarded to be the best / the example on how to make a successful risk map that all use the same units for all players and regions. Another popular risk, WoW risk also uses units that barely differ depending on the price.

Anyway, I found this map and version being hosted so I joined it. I played it for 25 minutes 'till my internet cut out. Expect a review in a day or two.

 

[Ardenian]

Yes, of course I agree, SCN, but I think there could be more unique units. Even the very expensive units hardly differ from the common units.

 

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GENERAL Game of Thrones Risk, at least for the 1.2v version, is a fully working, mostly balanced, average "terrained," standard risk map. While it is missing some risk features that have become norm such as select-able game modes and spawns, the map would likely be a nice try for risk fans tired of the same old one's. ​ GAMEPLAY I've played this four times, three times on battle.net and I've got a consensus of what the players dislike. As I mentioned in above, there aren't any game modes to choose from. While only two players complained about it, I'm positive most people would prefer it. All of the actively played risk maps on battle.net have game modes to choose from them. Not having game modes isn't an issue, it's just a recommendation to keep the gameplay varied. The game progresses similarly to middle earth risk except that the map is signifantly more crowded due to the layout. Besides some of the top and the seas, the map's layout is almost too consistent. Small to medium twisting pathways are everywhere to be seen. The problem with this type of pathing is that strategy is frequently limited to linear battles. Speaking of strategy, the game is on the more spam happy side. While risks like devo and next gen feature gigantic battles with hundreds of units having battles are critically praised, having that in this map is difficult to manage. This has to do with the price of units, the collision size, and layout. There is no unit above 10g. Those in the higher range still can be spammed. If you decide to add higher units in the 20s, 30s, and maybe even 50s worth their price, it will add more micro elements and easier control in the game which will tone down the spam of the game. To sum it up, spam happy maps aren't necessarily bad as they could be balanced, but they usually cause more irritation to the general populace. Speaking of balance, I think you did a fine job. Unit wise, I found no under powered or over powered units and the prices are what they're worth. Layout wise, it's mostly solid but I found one iff. The top left of the map having no port is completely unfair. Maybe it's not lore accurate to put a port there, but usually gameplay should be more prioritized than lore. The wow factor of the units aren't really there, but that's not what risk known is for. The supply cart and it's system is quite cool, but that might be all that's cool about the units. You could try and experiment with abilities or systems, but this is a priority in a risk map that's often overlooked for modest reason. All in all, the gameplay is what many would expect. Despite a few minor hiccups here and there, the core of the game performs well.​ AMBIENCE & AESTHETICS The who look of the map isn't terrible, but it ain't pretty. I deem it as average. While many of the models and skins used look badass, most of the things surrounding 'em are rather bland. The tile and decorations don't flow. What you can do to make the map more visually pleasing, or dare I say artistic, is to not decorate more, but to decorate accordingly. Terraining Tutorial​ MISCELLANEOUS I've been told by multiple people that the map is pretty much lore accurate, so good job on that. Also, you spelled Northern as "Northen" many times.​

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[Arad MNK]

Congratulations on Approval!

 

[hauw]

Awesome game, unique gameplay. But in all honesty AI is mandatory in FFA games in case someone left. Can't drop the fun can we?

 

[IzuVerg]

May be I am not a fan of risk, but in my oppinion such enormous work is done for nothing. Stamp the units and go ahead. No tactics required, settlements are taken with no efforts. Arrow supply sucks - it is not a supply really. Overall, very boring and straightforward game. No need to have so many types of units at all.
Positive sides: Westeros map, local unit bonuses feater. But they do not make the map interesting or very special.

 

[Olorin]

Hello !
To start with, I really like your map, the unit variety and balance is nice, even if there some issues (like spammable Kinsguards that can butcher whole armies :d) but definitivly alot of fun !

Can we hope for an update one day ? That would be really cool !