Flight of the Phoenix

[lordbone]

Once again, I am here to ask for you guys pro help.

I am trying to make a sort of phoenix flight shield. this is what it is supposed to do:

Once the caster casts Flight of the phoenix, 2 phoenixes should fly in diverse directions around the caster as a sort of shield. once it hits an enemy, the phoenix should do AOE dmg to all surrounding units in a ... range.
once a phoenix hits an enemy, that phoenix should dissapear...


is this possible to make?

thank you for all your help!!!

regards

Lordbone

 

[Kwah]

God, eye candy a a little.

Umm, do you know JASS?

 

[lordbone]

no, I'm just beginning to learn GUI ^^

 

[Kwah]

Hmm, if you are just begginng to learn GUI and want that skill you are well. . . crazy. Maybe wait like a year and try again. Or get some one else to do it for you (not me (too much work)).

Collision events are a pain.

 

[lordbone]

thats why I'm here to ask for help ^^

 

[Kwah]

True. . sorry I would love to help but I can't for a few reasons:

1) I'm not really competent enough to make that easily
2) It would take a lot of time
3) You need to learn
4) Eye Candy is against my religion

 

[lordbone]

whats eye candy?

 

[Kwah]

A spell which is there to please the eye. For example: Most of the spells from AOM. This spell has a purpose but really it just looks cool (no?).

Eye Candy can be good to add to a spell (SFX) but when it is the purpose of the spell it makes me angry. Your spell is cool yes. But is it that much better than a damage shield spell?

 

[emperor_d3st]

A year? You can learn JASS in a few hours. Get some field experience +few hours, vJass + few hours. It's just matter of will and interest. Not time.

By the way this spell is possible but you are going to need damage detection and that's JASS stuff. So, forget GUI, get Jass NewGen Pack and start to read some tutorials, convert triggers, read some more tutorials, do your own JASS code and try to do your phoenix shield thingy.

This spell doesn't sound too hard. The hardest thing would be to make the flight of the phoenixes look nice and steady.

 

[Kwah]

Hmm, I mean if he wants to do it in GUI.

 

[Huurka]

no, I'm just beginning to learn GUI ^^

Learn JASS first, thank me later.

 

[Razorbrain]

would he really need damage detection?

think about it, there is no damage to detect, its once the phoenixes collides with a unit

just a question, how many units should be able to use it at the same time?

 

[Kwah]

Many units. It should be MUI and leakless.

Does that question need asking?

This is not as hard as I originally thought. I belived that you wanted it to block oncoming missiles.

 

[Ciebron]

create 2 dummy unit and move them around the caster with a timer

 

[Razorbrain]

Many units. It should be MUI and leakless.

Does that question need asking?

This is not as hard as I originally thought. I belived that you wanted it to block oncoming missiles.

yes, that question was needed to be asked, since

MUI, needs very advanced triggering
MPI, needs a little advanced triggering
SPI, needs almost no advanced triggering triggering
SUI, needs no advanced triggering

i, for one, would not want to make a big trigger only to realise i could have made it a tenth of its size for the same effect

 

[Ciebron]

yes, that question was needed to be asked, since

MUI, needs very advanced triggering
MPI, needs a little advanced triggering
SPI, needs almost no advanced triggering triggering
SUI, needs no advanced triggering

i, for one, would not want to make a big trigger only to realise i could have made it a tenth of its size for the same effect

if u know Jass it's like stealing candy from a baby to do MUI spells

and also doing MUI spells in GUI is quite easy to

• local unit udg_Tempunit = GetTriggerUnit()

 

[Razorbrain]

well, not in this case, since you need to store values for each and every unit(since it would look REALLY ugly if all the phoenixes were spinning at the same offsets)

and "TIMER expires" doesnt store a GetTriggerUnit()

 

[GhostWolf]

Simply store them in an array, store their angles (not facing angle but the angle between them and the caster) in another array, then move them according to it using simply trigonometry, set their facing angle to the new one (based on your movement calculations), play animation every now and then, and it will look just fine.

About collisions - they are one of the easiest things to do (well, by that I mean 3d spheres, boxes and 2d circles and rects).
Circles (which is what you want) are simply picking every unit in some distance (in real programming it would simply be squareroot((object1X - object2X)*(object1X - object2X) + (object1Y - object2Y)*(object1Y - object2Y)) <= object1RADIUS + object2RADIUS.
After getting this formula you go through every object you have in the game and check if it's x,y coordinates are in the x,y of the location you want + the distance you want. Then after you picked all the units, you check for collisions (you won't do this in real programming anyway though, so I just wasted my time writing this)).

Picking every unit in a range is a golden spoon for spherical collisions.

 

[Razorbrain]

yes, we all know we can store them i array variables, but we still need something to check what unit has what phoenixes floating around itself and such(this is not hard, im just saying)

what im saying is, this guy wants us to help him, so im quite sure he is not an expert on triggering, so for him this might be quite complicated

 

[lordbone]

I'm indeed no expert at this. I'm able to make my way but its quite complicated as Razorbain says ^^

 

[GhostWolf]

yes, we all know we can store them i array variables, but we still need something to check what unit has what phoenixes floating around itself and such(this is not hard, im just saying

You store the "owners" in a third array.

The best way for this would obviously be to use structs (which were originally created for such things - holding a few variables in them), but I do not think anyone here wants vJass