[Crash] "FATAL ERROR" caused by Blizzard doodad?

[ArkAngelG]

Hello HW,

I'm in need of some assistance from the minds here. For the past two days I have been experiencing a strange occurrence with the World Editor. I save my map, load TFT manually, select the map from the custom game menu and once the loading bar fills the game crashes to desktop without even a blink at the game GUI with the message in the included picture.

I opened my Error folder and pulled the crash log, from what I can see I can't make out anything other than "Doodads\Terrain\AshenTree\Ashentree2s.mdl" being the root cause of the crash. :/

I haven't even begun to do any model, doodad or spell editing and all I have done other than half the map's terrain is a few triggers that just make fire pits light at night and lighting crashes in some places. Other than the terrain and 3 triggers the map is raw blizzard values for a new map. The triggers were done and the map was loaded okay in the past but after adding some new trees to one of my landmasses, I get this crash every so often. I have found that if I remove some of the new trees I have recently added (Ashenvale model of course) and save the map, it will load alright in game and allow me to play. It just seems as if placing trees has come down to whether or not the game itself likes where I put them......

Here is the contents of the crash log from the "Errors" folder in "Warcraft III":

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Warcraft III (build 6070)

Exe: c:\program files\warcraft iii\war3.exe
Time: Jan 22, 2014 11:18:04.037 PM
User: Owner
Computer: WALLACE02
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This application has encountered a critical error:

FATAL ERROR!

Program: c:\program files\warcraft iii\war3.exe
Exception: 0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 001B:6F40E16E

The instruction at '0x6F40E16E' referenced memory at '0x1F4510A8'.
The memory could not be 'read'.


Played Maps\Azeroth\Azeroth V2.4.w3x
Player 0 <Unused> Race Human StartLoc -1
Player 1 WorldEdit Race NightElf StartLoc 0
Player 2 <Unused> Race Undead StartLoc -1
Player 3 <Unused> Race NightElf StartLoc -1
Player 4 <Unused> Race Human StartLoc -1
Player 5 <Unused> Race NightElf StartLoc -1
Player 6 <Unused> Race NightElf StartLoc -1
Player 7 <Unused> Race Undead StartLoc -1
Player 8 <Unused> Race Orc StartLoc -1
Player 9 <Unused> Race Human StartLoc -1
Player 10 <Unused> Race Orc StartLoc -1
Player 11 <Unused> Race Human StartLoc -1
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x86 Registers
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EAX=FFFE8213 EBX=00000135 ECX=07442D00 EDX=1F510010 ESI=1ED6C732
EDI=00000005 EBP=0012F160 ESP=0012F158 EIP=6F40E16E FLG=00210297
CS =001B DS =0023 ES =0023 SS =0023 FS =003B GS =0000


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Stack Trace (Manual)
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Address Frame Logical addr Module

6F40E16E 0012F160 0001:0040D16E c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F40E2AC 0012F18C 0001:0040D2AC c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F40E66F 0012F2BC 0001:0040D66F c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F076064 0012F2CC 0001:00075064 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F1DFDC6 0012F334 0001:001DEDC6 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F187F24 0012F348 0001:00186F24 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F188232 0012F528 0001:00187232 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F188883 0012F558 0001:00187883 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F2BC0AF 0012F574 0001:002BB0AF c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F2DF0B1 0012F5B0 0001:002DE0B1 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F4247C5 0012F5EC 0001:004237C5 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F424711 0012F608 0001:00423711 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F42FD8D 0012F62C 0001:0042ED8D c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F42F9E6 0012F748 0001:0042E9E6 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F42F7E2 0012F754 0001:0042E7E2 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F3E1E64 0012F878 0001:003E0E64 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F42F793 0012F89C 0001:0042E793 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F072E3B 0012F8B4 0001:00071E3B c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F29C9D6 0012F908 0001:0029B9D6 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F259EBB 0012F920 0001:00258EBB c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
004417FD 0012F95C 0001:000407FD c:\program files\warcraft iii\war3.exe
00441D94 0012F974 0001:00040D94 c:\program files\warcraft iii\war3.exe
00441DC1 0012F988 0001:00040DC1 c:\program files\warcraft iii\war3.exe
6F283207 0012F9A0 0001:00282207 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F288882 0012FB78 0001:00287882 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F28BB93 0012FC24 0001:0028AB93 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F28EDF2 0012FC68 0001:0028DDF2 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
6F28F283 0012FCA8 0001:0028E283 c:\program files\warcraft iii\Game.dll
00444841 0012FCD0 0001:00043841 c:\program files\warcraft iii\war3.exe
004445CA 0012FD2C 0001:000435CA c:\program files\warcraft iii\war3.exe
00444451 0012FE40 0001:00043451 c:\program files\warcraft iii\war3.exe
00401219 0012FEEC 0001:00000219 c:\program files\warcraft iii\war3.exe
00401D68 0012FF88 0001:00000D68 c:\program files\warcraft iii\war3.exe
75F7D2E9 0012FF94 0001:0004C2E9 C:\Windows\system32\kernel32.dll
77C01603 0012FFD4 0001:00040603 C:\Windows\system32\ntdll.dll
77C015D6 0012FFEC 0001:000405D6 C:\Windows\system32\ntdll.dll

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Stack Trace (Using DBGHELP.DLL)
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6F40E16E Game.dll GameMain+4227534 (0x00000006,0x00000134,0x07442D00,0x0003D6EF)


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Loaded Modules
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0x00400000 - 0x0046E7C0 c:\program files\warcraft iii\war3.exe
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0x742C0000 - 0x742FF000 C:\Windows\system32\UxTheme.dll
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0x745D0000 - 0x745D7000 C:\Windows\system32\WSOCK32.dll
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0x747E0000 - 0x747F5000 C:\Windows\system32\GPAPI.dll
0x74830000 - 0x7486B000 C:\Windows\system32\rsaenh.dll
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0x74B80000 - 0x74D1E000 C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.6002.18305_none_5cb72f2a088b0ed3\comctl32.dll
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0x751A0000 - 0x751AD000 C:\Windows\system32\sfc_os.dll
0x75250000 - 0x75255000 C:\Windows\system32\sfc.dll
0x75280000 - 0x752C5000 C:\Windows\system32\BCRYPT.dll
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0x75910000 - 0x7598D000 C:\Windows\system32\USP10.dll
0x75990000 - 0x759D9000 C:\Windows\system32\WLDAP32.dll
0x759E0000 - 0x75A2C000 C:\Windows\system32\GDI32.dll
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0x75AE0000 - 0x75B64000 C:\Windows\system32\CLBCatQ.DLL
0x75B70000 - 0x75B9D000 C:\Windows\system32\WS2_32.dll
0x75BA0000 - 0x75C68000 C:\Windows\system32\MSCTF.dll
0x75C70000 - 0x75E5C000 C:\Windows\system32\iertutil.dll
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Memory Dump
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Code: 16 bytes starting at (EIP = 6F40E16E)

6F40E16E: D9 04 C2 8D 14 C2 D9 C1 DE D9 DF E0 F6 C4 41 74 ..............At


Stack: 1024 bytes starting at (ESP = 0012F158)

* = addr ** *
0012F150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 34 01 00 00 ............4...
0012F160: 8C F1 12 00 AC E2 40 6F 06 00 00 00 34 01 00 00 [email protected]...
0012F170: 00 2D 44 07 EF D6 03 00 1C 2D 44 07 34 01 00 00 .-D......-D.4...
0012F180: 1F C7 00 00 1C 2D 44 07 07 00 00 00 BC F2 12 00 .....-D.........
0012F190: 6F E6 40 6F A8 F2 12 00 98 00 DB 17 6C F8 F9 1E [email protected]...
0012F1A0: BC F4 12 00 D8 F1 12 00 C4 F1 12 00 32 F7 02 6F ............2..o
0012F1B0: 44 2B C3 1C 74 F2 12 00 6E 17 A4 C5 B4 02 C8 46 D+..t...n......F
0012F1C0: 21 11 D4 44 00 F2 12 00 06 F6 02 6F 56 AF 5D 3F !..D.......oV.]?
0012F1D0: 74 F2 12 00 5C 67 93 1F 6E 17 A4 C5 B4 02 C8 46 t...\g..n......F
0012F1E0: 21 11 D4 44 4F 92 7F 43 00 00 00 B0 00 00 00 00 !..DO..C........
0012F1F0: BE DD 57 C4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A0 C5 ..W.............
0012F200: 24 F2 12 00 F3 C4 04 6F 97 EA 86 4A 68 F2 12 00 $......o...Jh...
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0012F220: 00 02 44 07 50 F2 12 00 56 EA 06 6F 68 F2 12 00 ..D.P...V..oh...
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0012F250: 80 F2 12 00 F3 EA 06 6F 74 F2 12 00 68 F2 12 00 .......ot...h...
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0012F4C0: 00 00 08 46 00 00 80 43 E3 CB 96 40 70 FA 50 3F [email protected]?
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0012F530: C8 F5 12 00 CC F5 12 00 64 F5 12 00 02 00 00 00 ........d.......
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[Severalser]

You have this problem only in custom maps or in wc3 campaigns too?

 

[ArkAngelG]

Just with this particular custom map only, and like I said it happens sporadically while placing trees and testing the map. Once this happens I find if I go back into the editor and delete some of the trees I just placed, save and try loading the map in-game it will work again. Map is 480x480 and currently I have 35000+ doodads the majority of which are the different types of trees. Even using NewGen WE with "Enable no limits" turned on, is it truly unlimited or is there a roof that is just considered unachievable so they say "no limits"?

 

[Magtheridon96]

I'd say that would be the cause ;|
Try using less trees, and use triggers to place trees dynamically to see if you still get crashes.

 

[ArkAngelG]

Played around a little more after work and tried working on a different part of the map. I added another few hundred trees in that area and it saved and loaded properly in-game. The new development seems to be that just certain parts of my map hate foliage.

 

[Severalser]

I have random solution: when you put the trees it block some region or function in you map? check all triggers with map intialization event.

 

[ArkAngelG]

I have checked my triggers before, disabling all the ones I had created so far and loading the map file raw, same result. I reviewed the few regions I have and none are being blocked by trees in any way.

I tried replacing all the Ashenvale trees with Lordaeron summer trees via the "Advanced" menu, the game still crashed when the progress bar filled only this time the error file listed the Lordaeron tree where the Ashenvale tree is mentioned in my first post.

What really kills me is its just the damned trees, I can place any other type of destructible, work on triggers or object data. Just...no...DAMN.....trees.

I feel like this is just a major glitch with the 480x480 map size and I'm just going to have to start all over on the next size down. :'(

 

[WaterKnight]

If you say the problem is only with trees but not with other destructables, find out the differences. There are problems with 480x480. If you have that many trees, receive a model-related error at certain numbers/positions, maybe it tries to render too many trees simultaneously. You will at least experience glitches with too many models under the camera lense.

 

[ArkAngelG]

I think tonight I might try to take a non-destructable and change it's model file to the Ashenvale tree and see if I can use those for some of the trees that a worker will never be able to reach. Replace some of the exisiting ones I have already finished with them too to push my real trees further. Like I said only half the map is done so this has brought progress to a grinding halt.

The other idea I had was just to load one of the working saves and level this continent and try again in case the terrain is glitching and causing the issues.

What are the known problems with the 480x480 maps if I may ask to watch out for going forward?

 

[ArkAngelG]

Do we know if there's a pathing limit to the game? Maybe the gaps between the trees while using the mass placement tool is causing the issue by being too RAM heavy?

 

[ArkAngelG]

.........I'm dumb.......

I just noticed when I launched NewGen WE that the banner said World Editor Unlimited. Turns out that I still had WEU installed in my machine and under the Grimoire menu "Integrate WEU" was selected. I turned this option off, loaded a reliable save of my map and added some trees to see what would happen and sure enough the game loaded properly.

Turns out it was just my lazy ass not removing older software I no longer use.....

Is there a way to mark this as solved for anyone having the same problem searching the forums?