Dalaran Schism 2.0.1

[Moderator]

21:45, 3rd May 2015
StoPCampinGn00b: Approved.

 

[MattNJ]

In V2 I strengthen the Undead with a Spiked Carapace passive ability, increasing their armor and returning damage to melee attackers.

 

[Yrk]

Gonna check it out.

 

[MattNJ]

I am still working on this map but this if how far I got so far. Please give me time. Thanks.

I reduced the number of abilities elite units have and reduced their armor.

I also gave this map a random race choice. If you play as Human you have a 50% of being either Dragon Human or Blood Elf.

If, at any point in development of this map, I have met you criteria let me know and approve my map. I will continue to add stuff!

Please let me know if there is anything I need to improve, Thanks!

In V4 I did some more object adjustments (unit damage).

I added a 5000 second timer that related to victory instead of total kills.

Victory timer increased from 5000 to 12500 seconds in V6.

How is my map coming out? Any suggestions?

 

[Yrk]

Im still, testing it.

 

[MattNJ]

Im still, testing it.

OK, cool.

 

[cleavinghammer]

New heroes can be obtained as long as you don't train the third normal hero.
Random Hero gives you a standard hero (Mountain King with Blood Elf).
Items: Orb, potions and scrolls are available before the fortress.
Human: Blood Knight tooltip has different abilities (Black Arrow, Divine Shield, Unholy aura, Animate Dead) than what he actually has (Holy Light, Banish, Thorns Aura, Avatar).
Game doesn't end if all enemies are destroyed.

 

[Yrk]

Well, I have test it.

Here is some few suggestion:
-Make an option for timer (Dialog, Or something.).
-Make an option for races too. (Dialog too, Or something)

I will add another suggestions, next day, or next testing.

And give it a Review, If it is ready to be review.

 

[MattNJ]

New heroes can be obtained as long as you don't train the third normal hero.
Random Hero gives you a standard hero (Mountain King with Blood Elf).
Items: Orb, potions and scrolls are available before the fortress.
Human: Blood Knight tooltip has different abilities (Black Arrow, Divine Shield, Unholy aura, Animate Dead) than what he actually has (Holy Light, Banish, Thorns Aura, Avatar).
Game doesn't end if all enemies are destroyed.

I will try to fix these things. Some things I might not be able to change, for example, the random heroes, because I do not code so I hope this map can still be approved.

 

[MattNJ]

Well, I have test it.

Here is some few suggestion:
-Make an option for timer (Dialog, Or something.).
-Make an option for races too. (Dialog too, Or something)

I will add another suggestions, next day, or next testing.

And give it a Review, If it is ready to be review.

By dialog, what do you mean? Do you mean that if the player types a message and it matches a constant, if that is the correct term, the timer or races are triggered?

 

[Yrk]

By dialog, what do you mean?

It is a choices, Or message.
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Do you mean that if the player types a message and it matches a constant, if that is the correct term, the timer or races are triggered?

Yes, It is.

 

[MattNJ]

New heroes can be obtained as long as you don't train the third normal hero.
Random Hero gives you a standard hero (Mountain King with Blood Elf).
Items: Orb, potions and scrolls are available before the fortress.
Human: Blood Knight tooltip has different abilities (Black Arrow, Divine Shield, Unholy aura, Animate Dead) than what he actually has (Holy Light, Banish, Thorns Aura, Avatar).
Game doesn't end if all enemies are destroyed.

Actually, I think I can fix these things without writing code and just using the triggers but it will take time to do. I know a little C++ but I do not know how to code in Warcraft 3.

In V8 I restored the victory/defeat conditions and replaced the 2 hour timer.

Now players can choose between Blood Elf or Dragon Human if they select Human as their race. Special thanks to Maker!

 

[Yrk]

In V8 I restored the victory/defeat conditions and replaced the 2 hour timer.

Why?, You cant make dialog for timer?
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Now players can choose between Blood Elf or Dragon Human if they select Human as their race.

Nice, Add more races.
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Special thanks to Maker!

You really done it.

 

[MattNJ]

Why?, You cant make dialog for timer?

I am confident I could make it. I will think about adding it.

Nice, Add more races.

I plan to add three more races.

You really done it.

That is true.

 

[Yrk]

I am confident I could make it. I will think about adding it.

Think about it, It will make the map great, If you add dialog.
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I plan to add three more races.

Yehey, But, What races?
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That is true.

Is it?

 

[MattNJ]

Think about it, It will make the map great, If you add dialog.

If it will make the map great I will add a timer dialog.

I was thinking about adding a taxes timer where you get some gold and lumber every day/night cycle based on your total food cost (to make up for upkeep).

Yehey, But, What races?

The Betrayed (a Night Elf race), The Draenei/Icecrown (an Orc race), and The Burning Legion (an Undead race).

Is it?

I should still give Maker credit for sharing his script with me on the forum, right?

 

[Yrk]

If it will make the map great I will add a timer dialog.

Yeah, It will.
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I was thinking about adding a taxes timer where you get some gold and lumber every day/night cycle based on your total food cost (to make up for upkeep).

Um, I didnt quite understand it.
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The Betrayed (a Night Elf race), The Draenei/Icecrown (an Orc race), and The Burning Legion (an Undead race).

Yehey, Burning Legion.
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I should still give Maker credit for sharing his script with me on the forum, right?

What do you mean forum?, In-Game?, Or here?

 

[MattNJ]

Um, I didnt quite understand it.

For every point of food you are taking up, out of 100, you get a set amount of gold and lumber every day/night cycle.

This way you get paid to have a large army. This helps out with the costs of up-keeping said army. Does that make more sense? (sorry if it does not!)

Yehey, Burning Legion.

I know that the Burning Legion has been done before but it would not be a proper race expansion without them.

What do you mean forum?, In-Game?, Or here?

On this forum. He gave me the basics of the dialog code and I finished it, specifically for my maps.

 

[Yrk]

For every point of food you are taking up, out of 100, you get a set amount of gold and lumber every day/night cycle.

This way you get paid to have a large army. This helps out with the costs of up-keeping said army.

Oh, Now, I get it.
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Does that make more sense? (sorry if it does not!)

Yes, It does.
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I know that the Burning Legion has been done before but it would not be a proper race expansion without them.

Yeah.
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On this forum. He gave me the basics of the dialog code and I finished it, specifically for my maps.

Oh, Okay.
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Edit:

Here is my review:

Yrk Dalaran Doomsday v9 By Mattnj Hidden Comment Review Nice map, I love it. I played it, with the AI. Review Suggestions and Bugs Well, I played it, as Blood Elf. This is a great map, with AI, and easy to play. Good Features. Unit are balanced, and heroes too. Other units, and heroes are same. The abilities are good, and the stats are good as well. I really liked the new items you made, but some are imbalanced. AI, is a bit impressive, the build of strutures, the making/creating of units, the defensing, and the attacking is great. Score: 3/5 Terrain, is great, but some spots are plain, and some are not well terrain Score: 3/5 Total Score Explanation 6/10, and Voting for APPROVAL. 9-10 = 5 Stars 7-8 = 4 Stars 5-6 = 3 Stars 3-4 = 2 Stars 1-2 = 1 Star - Improve the terrain. - Higher the Life of the trees, for long game. - Higher the Gold of the Gold Mines, for long game too. - Change the name of the Building, Temple of Tides Lv2, and Temple of Tides Lv3, to Temple of Tides Level 2, and Temple of Tides Level 3. - Reduce the build time of some units in the Blood Elf Race, its kinda too long. - Arrange some buildings in the build option of the Blood Elf Race, its kinda annoying. - Nothing, I did not found.

 

[MattNJ]

I added a choice dialog for the Orc race where you can choose between Dragon Orc and Draenei. The Burning Legion (Undead) and The Betrayed (Night Elf) are up next!

 

[Yrk]

I added a choice dialog for the Orc race where you can choose between Dragon Orc and Draenei.

Yehey!
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The Burning Legion (Undead) and The Betrayed (Night Elf) are up next!

I cant wait.

 

[MattNJ]

My map is all done! Message me if you find any problems and I will fix them before approval!

 

[Yrk]

My map is all done!

Yehey!
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Message me if you find any problems and I will fix them before approval!

I will try.

 

[MattNJ]

I fixed some gameplay constant issues concerning heroes, halls, and altars in V13. Now you can train one of each hero per hall level.

Do it to all heroes.

All heroes fixed in V14.

 

[Yrk]

All heroes fixed in V14.

Okay.
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By the way, did you see my review?

 

[MattNJ]

Okay.
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By the way, did you see my review?

Yes, I saw it. Thanks! Hopefully next is approval! I worked hard on this map and I am very happy how it came out.

 

[Yrk]

Yes, I saw it.

Thank you.
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Thanks!

You are welcome
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Hopefully next is approval! I worked hard on this map and I am very happy how it came out.

Well, we will just wait.

 

[MattNJ]

I updated this map with sub-races for users and computer players.

This map is now complete, unless you guys have any suggestions.

 

[Lacky]

How can we play as Undead, or Night Elf, if Team 1 is already Human, and Team 2 is already Orc?

 

[MattNJ]

How can we play as Undead, or Night Elf, if Team 1 is already Human, and Team 2 is already Orc?

Sorry about that. I fixed the custom race issue in V2. Now you can choose your own race and force.

 

[Orcnet]

The game's format is to what I observed, is set for team player fight. that means players trying to tackle this for free for all would be suicide. Hence, just form 2 teams and 4 players each would be better.

Lastly, I can still buy continues amount of same custom heroes, for example of the satyr hellcaller, no matter how I reach tier 3, I can still buy 3 of them if that's what your intention would be.

However, if its not the case, you should go to the trigger editor, create new trigger(CTRL + T) and do a statement like this one:

• Player Group - Pick every player in (All players) and do (Actions)
  • Loop - Actions
    • Player - Limit training of Satyr Hellcaller to 1 for (Picked player)
    • Player - Limit training of Orcnet is badass to 1 for (Picked player)

For now, this are just the little problems I solely encounter, if all is done I can set it to approval.

 

[MattNJ]

The game's format is to what I observed, is set for team player fight. that means players trying to tackle this for free for all would be suicide. Hence, just form 2 teams and 4 players each would be better.

Lastly, I can still buy continues amount of same custom heroes, for example of the satyr hellcaller, no matter how I reach tier 3, I can still buy 3 of them if that's what your intention would be.

However, if its not the case, you should go to the trigger editor, create new trigger(CTRL + T) and do a statement like this one:

• Player Group - Pick every player in (All players) and do (Actions)
  • Loop - Actions
    • Player - Limit training of Satyr Hellcaller to 1 for (Picked player)
    • Player - Limit training of Orcnet is badass to 1 for (Picked player)

For now, this are just the little problems I solely encounter, if all is done I can set it to approval.

All done with the fixes!(I limited training of "Orcnet is badass" to one because there is only one Orcnet!)

 

[MattNJ]

Sorry about the race selection mistake in V5, I fixed it in V6.

 

[MattNJ]

I have completed my new updates for this map!

 

[MattNJ]

Sorry about my five maps having hero issues, I was rushing because I was busy with other things.

I will properly update each of my 5 maps, resolving the hero issues for the Blood Elves, as well as the other 4 races, slowly instead of quickly, where mistakes occur.

 

[MattNJ]

I fixed an issue with the Blood Elf Temple of Tides, where it had the wrong upgrade button, one to upgrade to a Keep instead of a Temple of Seas. If fixed the same issue with the Temple of Seas upgrading to a Temple of Oceans, instead of a Castle.

 

[MattNJ]

I updated the Naga stats for the Blood Elf race and added flower doodads to V13.

 

[MattNJ]

I fixed the Temple of Tides and Mur'gul Militia unit sounds in V14.

 

[MattNJ]

I added new custom units and heroes in V16.

 

[MattNJ]

I added three custom races: the Blood Elf/Naga, the Draenei/Icecrown, and the Burning Legion. Enjoy!!!

 

[MattNJ]

I added new and improved custom units and heroes in Dalaran Schism V19. Part of the improvements include fixing the Burning Legion heroes requirement stats.

 

[Crazu]

team AI is is retarded. Most of enemy is attacking one friendly computer and what is 2 of my team doing. Nothing, staying in their bases. I should kill them myself for being so useless.

 

[Eat_Bacon_Daily]

Looks really cool! I like the concept of having the players start off in a narrow area and expand the through the sides as the game goes on. Looks like it could make for some epic games! I wish Blizzard would add more fun concepts like this into the ladder pool.

 

[Daffa]

Burning Legion has a lot of requirement issues. In addition, the infamous Orc "Tiny Great Hall" will spawn the base faction's building instead of the custom race one, which allows for some duality faction by starting with custom and have an Orc ally.

 

[MattNJ]

I added new gold mines, neutral passive units, and creeps in this update. I also adjusted the gold mine amounts. Additionally, I returned the map to melee from altered melee, for familiarity and balance.