Dalaran Schism 2.0.1

Moderator · Dec 17, 2014

21:45, 3rd May 2015
StoPCampinGn00b: Approved.

MattNJ · Dec 17, 2014

In V2 I strengthen the Undead with a Spiked Carapace passive ability, increasing their armor and returning damage to melee attackers.

Yrk · Dec 17, 2014

Gonna check it out.

MattNJ · Dec 26, 2014

I am still working on this map but this if how far I got so far. Please give me time. Thanks.

I reduced the number of abilities elite units have and reduced their armor.

I also gave this map a random race choice. If you play as Human you have a 50% of being either Dragon Human or Blood Elf.

If, at any point in development of this map, I have met you criteria let me know and approve my map. I will continue to add stuff!

Please let me know if there is anything I need to improve, Thanks!

In V4 I did some more object adjustments (unit damage).

I added a 5000 second timer that related to victory instead of total kills.

Victory timer increased from 5000 to 12500 seconds in V6.

How is my map coming out? Any suggestions?

Yrk · Jan 1, 2015

Im still, testing it.

MattNJ · Jan 2, 2015

Yrk said:
Im still, testing it.

OK, cool.

cleavinghammer · Jan 6, 2015

New heroes can be obtained as long as you don't train the third normal hero.
Random Hero gives you a standard hero (Mountain King with Blood Elf).
Items: Orb, potions and scrolls are available before the fortress.
Human: Blood Knight tooltip has different abilities (Black Arrow, Divine Shield, Unholy aura, Animate Dead) than what he actually has (Holy Light, Banish, Thorns Aura, Avatar).
Game doesn't end if all enemies are destroyed.

Yrk · Jan 6, 2015

Well, I have test it.

Here is some few suggestion:
-Make an option for timer (Dialog, Or something.).
-Make an option for races too. (Dialog too, Or something)

I will add another suggestions, next day, or next testing.

And give it a Review, If it is ready to be review.

MattNJ · Jan 6, 2015

cleavinghammer said:
New heroes can be obtained as long as you don't train the third normal hero.
Random Hero gives you a standard hero (Mountain King with Blood Elf).
Items: Orb, potions and scrolls are available before the fortress.
Human: Blood Knight tooltip has different abilities (Black Arrow, Divine Shield, Unholy aura, Animate Dead) than what he actually has (Holy Light, Banish, Thorns Aura, Avatar).
Game doesn't end if all enemies are destroyed.

I will try to fix these things. Some things I might not be able to change, for example, the random heroes, because I do not code so I hope this map can still be approved.

MattNJ · Jan 6, 2015

Yrk said:
Well, I have test it.

Here is some few suggestion:
-Make an option for timer (Dialog, Or something.).
-Make an option for races too. (Dialog too, Or something)

I will add another suggestions, next day, or next testing.

And give it a Review, If it is ready to be review.

By dialog, what do you mean? Do you mean that if the player types a message and it matches a constant, if that is the correct term, the timer or races are triggered?

Yrk · Jan 6, 2015

Mattnj said:
By dialog, what do you mean?

It is a choices, Or message. :wink:

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Mattnj said:
Do you mean that if the player types a message and it matches a constant, if that is the correct term, the timer or races are triggered?

Yes, It is. :grin:

MattNJ · Jan 7, 2015

cleavinghammer said:
New heroes can be obtained as long as you don't train the third normal hero.
Random Hero gives you a standard hero (Mountain King with Blood Elf).
Items: Orb, potions and scrolls are available before the fortress.
Human: Blood Knight tooltip has different abilities (Black Arrow, Divine Shield, Unholy aura, Animate Dead) than what he actually has (Holy Light, Banish, Thorns Aura, Avatar).
Game doesn't end if all enemies are destroyed.

Actually, I think I can fix these things without writing code and just using the triggers but it will take time to do. I know a little C++ but I do not know how to code in Warcraft 3.

In V8 I restored the victory/defeat conditions and replaced the 2 hour timer.

Now players can choose between Blood Elf or Dragon Human if they select Human as their race. Special thanks to Maker!

Yrk · Jan 12, 2015

Mattnj said:
In V8 I restored the victory/defeat conditions and replaced the 2 hour timer.

Why?, You cant make dialog for timer?
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Mattnj said:
Now players can choose between Blood Elf or Dragon Human if they select Human as their race.

Nice, Add more races.
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Mattnj said:
Special thanks to Maker!

You really done it.

MattNJ · Jan 12, 2015

Yrk said:
Why?, You cant make dialog for timer?

I am confident I could make it. I will think about adding it.

Yrk said:
Nice, Add more races.

I plan to add three more races.

Yrk said:
You really done it.

That is true.

Yrk · Jan 13, 2015

Mattnj said:
I am confident I could make it. I will think about adding it.

Think about it, It will make the map great, If you add dialog.
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Mattnj said:
I plan to add three more races.

Yehey, But, What races?
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Mattnj said:
That is true.

Is it?

MattNJ · Jan 13, 2015

Yrk said:
Think about it, It will make the map great, If you add dialog.

If it will make the map great I will add a timer dialog.

I was thinking about adding a taxes timer where you get some gold and lumber every day/night cycle based on your total food cost (to make up for upkeep).

Yrk said:
Yehey, But, What races?

The Betrayed (a Night Elf race), The Draenei/Icecrown (an Orc race), and The Burning Legion (an Undead race).

Yrk said:
Is it?

I should still give Maker credit for sharing his script with me on the forum, right?

Yrk · Jan 13, 2015

Mattnj said:
If it will make the map great I will add a timer dialog.

Yeah, It will.
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Mattnj said:
I was thinking about adding a taxes timer where you get some gold and lumber every day/night cycle based on your total food cost (to make up for upkeep).

Um, I didnt quite understand it.
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Mattnj said:
The Betrayed (a Night Elf race), The Draenei/Icecrown (an Orc race), and The Burning Legion (an Undead race).

Yehey, Burning Legion.
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Mattnj said:
I should still give Maker credit for sharing his script with me on the forum, right?

What do you mean forum?, In-Game?, Or here?

MattNJ · Jan 13, 2015

Yrk said:
Um, I didnt quite understand it.

For every point of food you are taking up, out of 100, you get a set amount of gold and lumber every day/night cycle.

This way you get paid to have a large army. This helps out with the costs of up-keeping said army. Does that make more sense? (sorry if it does not!)

Yrk said:
Yehey, Burning Legion.

I know that the Burning Legion has been done before but it would not be a proper race expansion without them.

Yrk said:
What do you mean forum?, In-Game?, Or here?

On this forum. He gave me the basics of the dialog code and I finished it, specifically for my maps.

Yrk · Jan 14, 2015

Mattnj said:
For every point of food you are taking up, out of 100, you get a set amount of gold and lumber every day/night cycle.

This way you get paid to have a large army. This helps out with the costs of up-keeping said army.

Oh, Now, I get it.
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Mattnj said:
Does that make more sense? (sorry if it does not!)

Yes, It does.
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Mattnj said:
I know that the Burning Legion has been done before but it would not be a proper race expansion without them.

Yeah.
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Mattnj said:
On this forum. He gave me the basics of the dialog code and I finished it, specifically for my maps.

Oh, Okay.
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Edit:

Here is my review:

Yrk's Review:

Yrk

Dalaran Doomsday v9
By Mattnj

Comment

Review

Nice map, I love it. I played it, with the AI.

Review

Suggestions and Bugs

Gameplay and Terrain

Gameplay:

Well, I played it, as Blood Elf. This is a great map, with AI, and easy to play. Good Features. Unit are balanced, and heroes too. Other units, and heroes are same. The abilities are good, and the stats are good as well. I really liked the new items you made, but some are imbalanced. AI, is a bit impressive, the build of strutures, the making/creating of units, the defensing, and the attacking is great.

Score: 3/5

Terrain:

Terrain, is great, but some spots are plain, and some are not well terrain

Score: 3/5

Total Score

Explanation

6/10, and Voting for APPROVAL.

9-10 = 5 Stars
7-8 = 4 Stars
5-6 = 3 Stars
3-4 = 2 Stars
1-2 = 1 Star

Suggestions and Bugs

Suggestion:

- Improve the terrain.
- Higher the Life of the trees, for long game.
- Higher the Gold of the Gold Mines, for long game too.
- Change the name of the Building, Temple of Tides Lv2, and Temple of Tides Lv3, to Temple of Tides Level 2, and Temple of Tides Level 3.
- Reduce the build time of some units in the Blood Elf Race, its kinda too long.
- Arrange some buildings in the build option of the Blood Elf Race, its kinda annoying.

Bug:

- Nothing, I did not found.

MattNJ · Jan 21, 2015

I added a choice dialog for the Orc race where you can choose between Dragon Orc and Draenei. The Burning Legion (Undead) and The Betrayed (Night Elf) are up next!

Yrk · Jan 21, 2015

Mattnj said:
I added a choice dialog for the Orc race where you can choose between Dragon Orc and Draenei.

Yehey!
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Mattnj said:
The Burning Legion (Undead) and The Betrayed (Night Elf) are up next!

I cant wait.

MattNJ · Jan 27, 2015

My map is all done! Message me if you find any problems and I will fix them before approval!

Yrk · Jan 27, 2015

Mattnj said:
My map is all done!

Yehey!
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Mattnj said:
Message me if you find any problems and I will fix them before approval!

I will try.

MattNJ · Jan 27, 2015

I fixed some gameplay constant issues concerning heroes, halls, and altars in V13. Now you can train one of each hero per hall level.

Yrk said:
Do it to all heroes.

All heroes fixed in V14.

Yrk · Jan 28, 2015

Mattnj said:
All heroes fixed in V14.

Okay.
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By the way, did you see my review?

MattNJ · Jan 28, 2015

Yrk said:
Okay.
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By the way, did you see my review?

Yes, I saw it. Thanks! Hopefully next is approval! I worked hard on this map and I am very happy how it came out.

Yrk · Jan 28, 2015

Mattnj said:
Yes, I saw it.

Thank you.
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Mattnj said:
Thanks!

You are welcome
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Mattnj said:
Hopefully next is approval! I worked hard on this map and I am very happy how it came out.

Well, we will just wait.

MattNJ · Mar 2, 2015

I updated this map with sub-races for users and computer players.

This map is now complete, unless you guys have any suggestions.

Lacky · Mar 13, 2015

How can we play as Undead, or Night Elf, if Team 1 is already Human, and Team 2 is already Orc?

MattNJ · Mar 13, 2015

Lacky said:
How can we play as Undead, or Night Elf, if Team 1 is already Human, and Team 2 is already Orc?

Sorry about that. I fixed the custom race issue in V2. Now you can choose your own race and force.

Orcnet · Apr 6, 2015

The game's format is to what I observed, is set for team player fight. that means players trying to tackle this for free for all would be suicide. Hence, just form 2 teams and 4 players each would be better.

Lastly, I can still buy continues amount of same custom heroes, for example of the satyr hellcaller, no matter how I reach tier 3, I can still buy 3 of them if that's what your intention would be.

However, if its not the case, you should go to the trigger editor, create new trigger(CTRL + T) and do a statement like this one:

Player Group - Pick every player in (All players) and do (Actions)
- Loop - Actions
  - Player - Limit training of Satyr Hellcaller to 1 for (Picked player)
  - Player - Limit training of Orcnet is badass to 1 for (Picked player)

For now, this are just the little problems I solely encounter, if all is done I can set it to approval. :wink:

MattNJ · Apr 11, 2015

Orcnet said:
The game's format is to what I observed, is set for team player fight. that means players trying to tackle this for free for all would be suicide. Hence, just form 2 teams and 4 players each would be better.

Lastly, I can still buy continues amount of same custom heroes, for example of the satyr hellcaller, no matter how I reach tier 3, I can still buy 3 of them if that's what your intention would be.

However, if its not the case, you should go to the trigger editor, create new trigger(CTRL + T) and do a statement like this one:

Player Group - Pick every player in (All players) and do (Actions)

Loop - Actions

Player - Limit training of Satyr Hellcaller to 1 for (Picked player)

Player - Limit training of Orcnet is badass to 1 for (Picked player)

For now, this are just the little problems I solely encounter, if all is done I can set it to approval.

All done with the fixes!(I limited training of "Orcnet is badass" to one because there is only one Orcnet!)

MattNJ · Apr 11, 2015

Sorry about the race selection mistake in V5, I fixed it in V6.

MattNJ · Apr 22, 2015

I have completed my new updates for this map!

MattNJ · May 9, 2015

Sorry about my five maps having hero issues, I was rushing because I was busy with other things.

I will properly update each of my 5 maps, resolving the hero issues for the Blood Elves, as well as the other 4 races, slowly instead of quickly, where mistakes occur.

MattNJ · May 9, 2015

I fixed an issue with the Blood Elf Temple of Tides, where it had the wrong upgrade button, one to upgrade to a Keep instead of a Temple of Seas. If fixed the same issue with the Temple of Seas upgrading to a Temple of Oceans, instead of a Castle.

MattNJ · May 12, 2015

I updated the Naga stats for the Blood Elf race and added flower doodads to V13.

MattNJ · May 12, 2015

I fixed the Temple of Tides and Mur'gul Militia unit sounds in V14.

MattNJ · Sep 16, 2015

I added new custom units and heroes in V16.

MattNJ · Jul 2, 2016

I added three custom races: the Blood Elf/Naga, the Draenei/Icecrown, and the Burning Legion. Enjoy!!!

MattNJ · Jan 31, 2017

I added new and improved custom units and heroes in Dalaran Schism V19. Part of the improvements include fixing the Burning Legion heroes requirement stats.

Crazu · Feb 19, 2017

team AI is is retarded. Most of enemy is attacking one friendly computer and what is 2 of my team doing. Nothing, staying in their bases. I should kill them myself for being so useless.

Eat_Bacon_Daily · Aug 14, 2017

Looks really cool! I like the concept of having the players start off in a narrow area and expand the through the sides as the game goes on. Looks like it could make for some epic games! I wish Blizzard would add more fun concepts like this into the ladder pool.

Daffa · Jan 23, 2022

Burning Legion has a lot of requirement issues. In addition, the infamous Orc "Tiny Great Hall" will spawn the base faction's building instead of the custom race one, which allows for some duality faction by starting with custom and have an Orc ally.

MattNJ · Feb 2, 2024

I added new gold mines, neutral passive units, and creeps in this update. I also adjusted the gold mine amounts. Additionally, I returned the map to melee from altered melee, for familiarity and balance.

belial47 · Dec 11, 2024

Moderator said:
21:45, 3rd May 2015
StoPCampinGn00b: Approved.

I downloaded this map but can't play it.Can you tell me why?

Dalaran Schism 2.0.1

Dalaran Schism 2.0.1 (Map)

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Dalaran Doomsday v9

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