[General] Correct ways to use new natives

[El Saif]

So, i've been confused about how to use some of new natives we got. Especially those Ability Mana and Cooldown parts. I tried using them on trigger like when the unit starts the effect on an ability, periodic timer, etc. But it seems doesn't really work at all.
Anybody knows why? Or i missing something maybe?.

 

[Rigborn]

I just tested it, ability cooldown thingie and mana works with either finishes casting ability or if you wanna use it after casting an ability you might want to put a timer.

 

[El Saif]

So, it is working on finishes casting an ability?

And oh, this is maybe out of context, but 'Set Unit Mana' is somehow doesn't work like usual. Long time ago, i made an ability similiar to Essence Shift (Dota). While the unit starts the ability, it restores some of its mana, it works perfectly.

As i said above, i tried to do something like this but now i'm using the ability manacost. I thought it is because of the native, but then i test it again to restores like 5 mana, but the unit's mana stuck in total where it has been decreased by the ability manacost (from full mana).

 

[Rigborn]

So, it is working on finishes casting an ability?

And oh, this is maybe out of context, but 'Set Unit Mana' is somehow doesn't work like usual. Long time ago, i made an ability similiar to Essence Shift (Dota). While the unit starts the ability, it restores some of its mana, it works perfectly.

As i said above, i tried to do something like this but now i'm using the ability manacost. I thought it is because of the native, but then i test it again to restores like 5 mana, but the unit's mana stuck in total where it has been decreased by the ability manacost (from full mana).

It's definitely working with finishes casting an ability. I don't quite get the problem here. If you use ability manacost, how are you able to restore mana as it only changes the manacost of the spell?

 

[BloodSoul]

Keep in mind that "A unit starts the effects of an ability" event fires when the ability goes in cooldown state, and the unit's mana will still be subtracted in the next frame.

 

[Tasyen]

The UI does not update manacost changes instantly. Reselect the unit or force an repaint of the UI.

WARNING: Do not use the 2 SetCooldown/SetManacost natives for spells based on any morphing spell, nor raise skeleton spells. The game crashses as soon one tries to use them. Last tested in 1.30.2 (Pre Hotfixes).

 

[El Saif]

It's definitely working with finishes casting an ability. I don't quite get the problem here. If you use ability manacost, how are you able to restore mana as it only changes the manacost of the spell?

I mean i'm going to restores the mana equal to the manacost.

The UI does not update manacost changes instantly. Reselect the unit or force an repaint of the UI.

Hmm, is that true? I'm gonna test it again later then.

WARNING: Do not use the 2 SetCooldown/SetManacost natives for spells based on any morphing spell, nor raise skeleton spells. The game crashses as soon one tries to use them. Last tested in 1.30.2 (Pre Hotfixes).

Hoo, thanks. I'll be more aware of it.