Cast 2 different spells when pressing 1 spell ?

[stimmedmarine]

when i try to cast 1 spell "Click on it" it also cast another spell. The hot keys are not the same... both spells are imported GUI spells... what can be wrong here ?

tell me if you need triggers.

 

[LordDz]

Are the two spells based on one spell?
For that doesn't work, you can only have one "Shadow Strike" based spell, etc on a hero, or they will only cast the first one first, then if it has cooldown, it will cast the second.

The fix is, use the Channel spell, (it can be used multiple times on a hero).

 

[khamarr3524]

Odds are both spells have the same order id. IE "frostnova" selected in the world editor. Ensure that this is not true.

 

[stimmedmarine]

both using Stunned Pause as Buff ? can that be the problem ? in Ability spell

and whats Order ID ? and how to change ? -- EDIT: seems like both have Stomp as order ID, can i change this without bugging the spells ?

 

[Spartipilo]

Every ability has "Ability ID" and "Order ID". If you create several custom abilities from the same, they'll all share the same Ability ID, and they will malfunction. Order ID is the number of the string order "thunderclap", "slowon", etc.

The problem is: Your unit is having 2 abilities based on the same bility, and they'll share cooldowns and other values. They won't work correctly. You'll have to remove 1, cast, re add the removed, or cast one of those with a dummy.

 

[khamarr3524]

Like LordDz said, use a channel spell as a base. Here's a picture highlighting the string to change.

 

[stimmedmarine]

its not working, i got both spells on Channel now...

 

[khamarr3524]

If you switched the spells to Channel bases, make sure the order ID Use/cast/etc is different for both, I highlighted it for you in the picture.

 

[defskull]

Oh and you can change to whatever OrderID as you like excluding what kind of ability you want to make for the Channel such as Target-Point / Target-Unit / etc

 

[stimmedmarine]

i still got the problem.... when using my hero: Bat Girl, spells: Multi Shot and Cross fire. When i press Cross Fire spell, it fires the Multishot spell instead of Cross fire.

i have changed the strings to channel, but its not helping... here is my map, can someone fix or see whats wrong ?

 

[Teelo]

You have the order strings for both of them set to Channel. Their dummies are both set to carrionswarm too.

Change ONE of them to something else. To an order string that hero won't use in another spell. Change ONE of the dummies too.

 

[stimmedmarine]

i dont understand 100% what you say. What to set on Multi shot ? And what to set on Cross fire ?

and remember theese are spells with trigger functions.

 

[Teelo]

Change THIS to something else. Anything else. Doesn't matter what. They just need to be different for each spell the hero has.

 

[stimmedmarine]

i have done but its not working...

 

[Teelo]

Well on the map you posted I found that the order strings were the same. Are you sure?

 

[stimmedmarine]

Multi shot spell: Dummy = Channel. Multi Shot = Channel.

Cross fire spell: Dummy = Chain Ligthtning. Cross Fire = Chain Lightning.

What im i doing wrong ?

 

[Spartipilo]

stim... just get the idea:

The order ID and Ability ID have to be different from one ability to another.

Just be sure that your unit doens't have 2 abilities with either THE SAME TEXT ORDER ID, nor the same ABILITY ID

 

[stimmedmarine]

how can i make it work then ? shall i change 1 spell to a unit ability ?

 

[Spartipilo]

Ability A - Base Order ID = wispharvest
Ability A - Text Order String = wispharvest

Ability B - Base Order ID = channel
Ability B - Text Order String = channel

 

[stimmedmarine]

what are ability ID ?

 

[Spartipilo]

If you're using the Channel ability, the first "Data" field is "Base order ID"

 

[Teelo]

Oh my god. I give up trying to explain it to this guy. Have fun spart.

 

[stimmedmarine]

i cant find anything called "Base Order ID" in Multi Shot.

 

[Spartipilo]

I said

If you're using the Channel ability, the first "Data" field is "Base order ID"

Only Channel ability (and Spellbook) allows changing Base Order ID.

 

[stimmedmarine]

yes, and i have set the Text - Order String on Multi shot to Channel, so why arent there any "Base order ID" ?

 

[Spartipilo]

Because Multishot isn't Channel ability, therefore, you can't change the Base Order ID of Multishot. You can only change Base Order ID on Channel ability.

Remember: Base order ID and Text Order String isn't the same thing, these are different data values. Channel allows modificating both. The rest of the abilities only allows modificating the Text Order String, but the Base Order ID is bound to the ability, so, doesn't allow modifications.

 

[stimmedmarine]

so i cant use those 2 spells on the same hero no matter what ?

 

[Teelo]

You can, just rename one of them.

 

[stimmedmarine]

why shall i rename them ?

 

[Spartipilo]

Which 2 abilities you want to have on the same hero?

 

[stimmedmarine]

Multi Shot and Cross Fire. Both using Carrion swarm as string.

heres the map:

 

[Spartipilo]

Ok...

MultiShot and CrossFire are both custom abilities based on Carrion Swarm. The order String doesn't matter... Since "Both" are "Modified copies" of Carrion Swarm, they both share the Base order ID, and that causes malfunctions.

The ONLY way to have both abilities on your unit is basing one of them in a different ability. Means changing the base ability of one of those. To change the Base ability of one of them, you have to create a custom copy of one of the game skills and base the effect of the skill in that ability.

 

[stimmedmarine]

hmmm ok, what can i use as trigger instead of Carrion Swarm, for Multi shot still to work as intended ?

 

[Teelo]

Base one of them off Crushing Wave instead. Exactly the same spell as Carrion Swarm.

 

[Spartipilo]

You just need an ability that allows you to target a unit or the ground in order the start the triggered effect. For that you can use ANY ability that allows casting on both, ground and terrain... like Crushing Wave, as Teelo said... That ability will, by default, have a different Base Order ID and different Text ORder String than Carrion Swarm, so, it won't cause any problem.

You can also use CHANNEL ability, since it allows No target / Unit Target / Point Target / Unit & Point Target. Just be sure to change the "Base order ID" of Channel Ability to any ability the hero won't ever have (wispharvest for example).

Remember that when you change the base ability, you'll have to modify the base ability in the trigger aswell. (The ability that triggers the trigger )

 

[stimmedmarine]

on Crushing Wave it says that i runs on Carrion Swarm string ? sure it works ?

 

[Spartipilo]

LOL xD Crushing Wave doesn't work. It's hardcoded to work based on Carrion Swarm.

Even changing the Text Order String makes the hero cast both.

EDIT: You can use Breath of Fire as a base ability...

Remember, you can ALWAYS use Channel as a base ability for any triggered effect, as long as you configure it correctly

 

[CoLd Bon3]

I'm beginning to think that stimmedmarine is trolling...

 

[Spartipilo]

I don't know... seems like a common 12yo dumb in triggering and stuff... So far, I still feel like I've been there.

 

[stimmedmarine]

well, i was told to do things that did not work... so i dont see why i should be trolling, when i was actualy just told the wrong things to change.

and it works fine now, thanks for the help and patients guys.