[Spell] Bounty

[Abovegame]

Can anyone give me ideas how i could make it ?
It's a single target spell cast on the enemy , gives the enemy a debuff `Bounty`.The enemy should take extra incoming pysical damage
from the caster.

 

[pOke]

Damage Detection System

 

[Abovegame]

Thats not really an idea on how to make it more of what i need in order to make it.

 

[NightStalker]

I'd suggest to base this off from a no effect spell and by triggers give the hero a custom buff which does nothing except telling the viewew what effect it gives. Then trigger your way to how you want the spell to work ^^

 

[SAUS]

For custom buffs, you can give a custom tornado aura to the unit with 0% slows and a custom buff to display. The tornado aura ability doesn't show up on the unit in any way, so you just have a buff there. You just have to add and remove it at the right times (also be sure to remove the ability AND the buff since the buff can linger for a while, and removing the buff only will have it replaced in a short time since the aura just comes back).

Using the DDS, you can just check for the buff, check the type of the damage, and if they have the buff and the damage is physical, you add some damage.

 

[Abovegame]

I had some idea like giving the caster critical strike when he casts the ability on someone , but then again he would be able to crit on anyone and not just the target.

 

[pOke]

You could use any spell with a buff as the base ability or just channel and give the target Tornado Slow Aura which has no command card icon for the buff.

Save the caster and the target to variables. Have a periodic timer counting down to the duration of the buff. When its over you will need to either null (or deindex if you are making it MUI) the variables appropriately.

Through a DDS you catch when the caster does physical damage to the target and amplify appropriately.

 

[SAUS]

Critical strike won't really work. I don't think there's a nice way to do this without a DDS.

 

[NightStalker]

Why make it complicated with DDS? If its not going to be MUI its very easy to just trigger it with some variables and a timer.

 

[pOke]

Without a DDS, there is no way to detect when a unit does physical damage.

 

[NightStalker]

So does a simple trigger system count as DDS?

like;

• Event
  • When a unit is attacked
• Conditions
  • Attacked unit equal to blabla
• Actions
  • Do this and this etc..

 

[-Manuel-]

So does a simple trigger system count as DDS?

like;

• Event
  • When a unit is attacked
• Conditions
  • Attacked unit equal to blabla
• Actions
  • Do this and this etc..

Not really, that only detects an attack (and not correctly). To detect damage and also to modify it, you can use this. GUI Damage Engine v3.6.0.1

 

[EdgeOfChaos]

Please do yourself a favor and listen to what they're saying now, rather than later. Use a damage detection system. People didn't code that for the luls, they coded it because WC3 has no good way of detecting and editing damage without a pretty complex system running under it. The "Attacks a unit" event doesn't work. It gets called when the attack starts not when it hits, which can be pretty far apart, especially for ranged heroes. And it cannot detect damage dealt or edit damage dealt.

This isn't overcomplicating it, it's just using the proper tool for the job.

With a damage detection system, this is 3 lines of code, even in GUI. Without a damage detection system, you might be able to hack together some terrible code to do this and it will look and perform bad, and it will probably take you 10x the time. We say to use a DDS because lots of us have tried to do this kind of thing without DDS and failed it.

The awful non-DDS way to do this would be to detect an attack and add Critical strike if the unit has the buff, or remove it if the enemy doesn't (don't do this).

 

[NightStalker]

It was just a basic idea that i had written out when i was outside. And why im asking is to know more. How would you improve yourself if you just accept everything mate? I didnt mention that anybody wrote it for the "luls", but i prefer using my own systems whenever it is possible.

 

[SAUS]

It was just a basic idea that i had written out when i was outside. And why im asking is to know more. How would you improve yourself if you just accept everything mate? I didnt mention that anybody wrote it for the "luls", but i prefer using my own systems whenever it is possible.

I think you just came off as stubborn since you were asking about things and not really taking the DDS solution. No worries!

You could write your own DDS if you're really that dedicated That is what I did. However, it is a HUUUUGE mess of really complicated things and mine still has some strange bugs I even had to get a bunch of help from Wietlol and IcemanBo in some other thread I made.

Also that crit idea by EdgeOfChaos is actually how I implemented my first backstab ability. It is awful. The crit ability is decided when the unit starts the attack, so the "Unit - A unit is attacked" event fires AFTER it decided if the attack was a crit or not. What happens is that it cannot crit on the first swing (unless I add a thing to make it stop and then order another attack). It would also automatically crit if you attack a different unit after which is messed up. It also forces the crit numbers to appear and does not stack nicely with other sources of crit (you get the jumbled numbers and I don't actually know exactly what happens when you have two crits happen at once - I've since implemented my own crit system using my DDS).