Azure Tower Defencess Tough

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Moderator: -Kobas-
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Date: 15-Jul-13 (14:48:59)​

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Personal Comment:​

We can't accept your map because you just slightly edited Blizzard map.
Game modes, difficulties or some other things like new heroes, new way to upgrade towers and so on are required.
We want unique things.

Your triggers actions are mostly copy paste, in spawn trigger integer udg_a is useless just use udg_i.

Map Status: Rejected
(1/5) Unacceptable​

 

[Faith]

Okay I have a couple things I'd like to point out.

• First off, this isn't really your map. All you did was edit one Blizzard already made, and add some extra stuff.
  • there's probably a rule against that somewhere.
• Make the "hard-mode" available for all players.
• Add some more variety to spice things up and make people actually want to play it.
  • Not many people want a harder version, just something different.
  • Use some originality and come up with something unique. ;]

However, some good things;

• The builders attacking idea is kind of cool I guess, but maybe you should have some way of upgrading their attacks.
  • Maybe something like builder classes. For example:
    • Quick-Builder
    • Warrior
    • Ranger
    • etc.
• It's good that you added another builder, but maybe give some more details on what he builds besides; "can build the Ultimate Slowing Tower."
  • Maybe add the option of choosing from 1 of 3 last-tier builders that each have unique buildings they can construct, with certain specializations.

If I had to rate it, I'd give it a 2/5.

 

[WolfFarkas]

Okay I have a couple things I'd like to point out.

• First off, this isn't really your map. All you did was edit one Blizzard already made, and add some extra stuff.
  • there's probably a rule against that somewhere.
  
  If I had to rate it, I'd give it a 2/5.

• 
  
  blizzard maps, are allowed to be modified because they are owned by blizzard in the same way as they own the blizzard editor
  thats why is very common to do altered melee with blizzard melee, and is allowed
  
  but the changes must be significant to be approved
  if the changes arent enough acording to,quality, time of work and the mods knowledge,
  yep is for rejection
  
  

  These changes made are applicable only if you play Player 1 (red).

  
  i second you Archange1, only changes for player 1, the soul of a td is for play in multiplayer so, i think all players should be playable in this new mode to be approved.
  
  not going to rate, but im not voting for approve this map in this state
  
  plus rep Archange1 for the review

 

[Faith]

Yeah I edited my post a bit.
I don't think the changes are enough to be approveable that's why i posted some suggestions for improvements.

 

[Daffa]

@Archange1
This kind of remade map is allowed, but require some extend of edits.

@Author
Add towers for all players, make some sort of "unique td taste" to the map, give it originality
Good luck.

 

[Faith]

@Archange1 and ABGM
This kind of remade map is allowed, but require some extend of edits.

Maps must be significantly worked on, or entirely created, by their submitter.

Rules can be found here.

I don't think making a Blizzard-made tower defence harder, and adding a builder and a few towers,
qualifies as extensively improved, or significantly worked on.

 

[Daffa]

Rules can be found here.

I don't think making a Blizzard-made tower defence harder, and adding a builder and a few towers,
qualifies as extensively improved, or significantly worked on.

Lol,,now you quoted me the rules.
Yes, I don't think it fits any of those

Okay, back to map.
I won't say anything since its already stated, 2/5 Rejection.

@Abgm
I know, should refer to Archange1, but oh well...

 

[WolfFarkas]

@Abgm
I know, should refer to Archange1, but oh well...

offtopic again

jeje, i was in the line of fire, ah im hit, i lost R2

 

[Dreadnought]

Thanks all for the review.

While I agree that the changes made may not be significant in the eyes of pros like you all, considering my background (Mech Engg and Fin MBA) I felt these were quite substantial.

Actually till yesterday I did not know that there are so many varied TD maps for W3 that are available for download. So after looking at this site I felt let me also share my map with all. The changes are made only for red since I only used to play the game in Single player mode. I take the input that the hard mode should be for all and not just for red.

Considering the huge variety of maps available for download, I will also try and implement some of the other suggestions that are given after studying these maps.

Once again thanks for the reviews.

Dread.

 

[Faith]

Thanks all for the review.

While I agree that the changes made may not be significant in the eyes of pros like you all, considering my background (Mech Engg and Fin MBA) I felt these were quite substantial.

Actually till yesterday I did not know that there are so many varied TD maps for W3 that are available for download. So after looking at this site I felt let me also share my map with all. The changes are made only for red since I only used to play the game in Single player mode. I take the input that the hard mode should be for all and not just for red.

Considering the huge variety of maps available for download, I will also try and implement some of the other suggestions that are given after studying these maps.

Once again thanks for the reviews.

Dread.

Excellent attitude. :]
You're willingness is refreshing and if you keep it up you'll soon have your map approved.
Just keep making necessary changes, and work hard, and you'll be there soon. ^_^

 

[Daffa]

Thanks all for the review.

While I agree that the changes made may not be significant in the eyes of pros like you all, considering my background (Mech Engg and Fin MBA) I felt these were quite substantial.

Actually till yesterday I did not know that there are so many varied TD maps for W3 that are available for download. So after looking at this site I felt let me also share my map with all. The changes are made only for red since I only used to play the game in Single player mode. I take the input that the hard mode should be for all and not just for red.

Considering the huge variety of maps available for download, I will also try and implement some of the other suggestions that are given after studying these maps.

Once again thanks for the reviews.

Dread.

Nice attitude, I like it.
Good luck with the map.

 

[Dreadnought]

Ok here is the update from my side on the changes made to the map in the last couple of days.

- Made the hard mode available for all the players.
- Added a new unit which uses Lumber to cast Hell Fire (10% life damage per sec).
- Introduced the Lumber gathering upgrades (10 lvls).
- Made an option to sell gold for lumber (2:1 ratio).
- Introduced a lumber cost per attack by the towers (-1 lumber / attack).
- Introduced Pausing of all the units/towers if Lumber becomes 0.
- Made the max Lumber capacity at 10k.

I am currently facing a problem in Unpausing the units/towers after the Lumber increases to 10 from 0.

I will paste the triggers that I made below. Please suggest a solution for the issue.
_______________________________________________________________________
Unit Array P1
Events
Unit - A unit enters (Entire map)
Conditions
(Owner of (Triggering unit)) Equal to Player 1 (Red)
Actions
Set P1 = (P1 + 1)
Set P1U[P1] = (Triggering unit)
________________________________________________________________________
Pause P1
Events
Player - Player 1 (Red)'s Current lumber becomes Less than or equal to 0.00
Conditions
Actions
For each (Integer Z) from 1 to 9999, do (Actions)
Loop - Actions
Set pp1 = (pp1 + 1)
Unit - Pause P1U[pp1]
Set pp1 = 0
_________________________________________________________________________

Unpause P1
Events
Time - Every 0.50 seconds of game time
Conditions
And - All (Conditions) are true
Conditions
pp1 Equal to 0
(Player 1 (Red) Current lumber) Greater than or equal to 10
Actions
For each (Integer X) from 1 to 9999, do (Actions)
Loop - Actions
Set up1 = (up1 + 1)
Unit - Unpause P1U[up1]
Set pp1 = 1
Set up1 = 1
________________________________________________________________________

The initial (default) values of P1, pp1 and up1 are 1.

Looking forward to constructive suggestions.

Dread.

 

[Faith]

I don't think you should use lumber as a form of 'ammo'.
That may be cool for other types of maps but doesn't really seem appropriate for a TD.

If you're going to continue using it tho, put your triggers in trigger tags [trigger][/trigger] and I'll try to help you figure out what you did.

 

[-Kobas-]

We can't accept your map because you just slightly edited Blizzard map.
Game modes, difficulties or some other things like new heroes, new way to upgrade towers and so on are required.
We want unique things.

Your triggers actions are mostly copy paste, in spawn trigger integer udg_a is useless just use udg_i.