Avatar Nation at War 1.3 BETA

[Moderator]

14:10, 13th Aug 2010
ap0calypse: Rejected

 

[T3rm1n4t0r]

Well... For your first map, good work! But there are missing many things, but that doesn't matters for the first map. But there must be Katara, Sokka and Aang, without it's not Avatar.

 

[pomelito123]

Well... For your first map, good work! But there are missing many things, but that doesn't matters for the first map. But there must be Katara, Sokka and Aang, without it's not Avatar.

thanks for your comment, i'll add them in the next update......

EDIT: Is it protected?

 

[supertoinkz]

psst... Vexorian's map optimizer <===u can protect maps with this.

 

[pomelito123]

anyone see any bugs?

 

[supertoinkz]

w8, i'll try now

for now:
There are no loading screen pic or any design
The heroes are not in the game
Bad terrain
Not use of models, you only recolor

 

[pomelito123]

hehehe........ i dont use any models here and it will have in the next...........
but for this time........ i'll just focus in school and continue updating it every saturdays and sundays.........

 

[Tleno]

Its really good for a first map!

 

[supertoinkz]

Lol its school time T_T

 

[pomelito123]

I still dont know how to create a MiniMap Preview.......

 

[Tleno]

many bags

Kinda lol. Its not bags, its bugs. And yea, usually there are lots of bugs in huge maps made by newbies... but its easy to fix.

 

[f0rsAk3n]

Mini map preview is easy.

just create a image of ur choice, downsize it to 256 x 256 and import it into ur map.
Rename it to: war3mapPreview

 

[ap0calypse]

Review

Well, this says it all I guess?

Screenshot

(This means that I could not play the map).

About the Preview Screen: decrease the size to 128x128, some people have problems with the 256x256 and it will be blank for those people.

I will still review it, though, since it is not protected!
You need a protector-tool to protect your map, of course -.-

Review

General:

• Well, I couldn't play the game, so I won't talk about the gameplay
• It is "your", not "ur"
• Description could be improved, both on the hive as in-game (you use too many points, it's confusing).

Terrain:

• Terrain wasn't really bad...
• Some spammed doodads have to be reduced in quantity (the flames).
• The tileset could be improved, there were to many empty area's.
• You could've used environmental doodads.
• You can use "raise height" in some area's

Objects:

• Aang, Katara and a catapult all have the same icon of Assassin's Creed? I can see the link *sarcasm*.
• You didn't change the damage of a lot of units
• No custom spells (you didn't even change the standard values of most spells).

Triggers:

• Very easy triggers, not a single trigger that stands out from the rest.
• You didn't fix the leaks
• The "alliance system" exists of 1 trigger, makig it possible for blue only to ally red... quite a system you've got there

This is a very simple game, the triggering is very inefficient, the units need a lot of work, the spells are just the standard blizzard spells, the wrong icons have been used...

You are very lucky that I cannot play it, because I will uprate it because of that.
It is hard to get an overal view on the map if you can't play it, but at the moment my rating is 2/5.

The gameplay might decrease that rating.

Vote for Rejection
(It misses the most important thing a game needs... to be playable).

 

[pomelito123]

Wait......... i'll update it...... i think i dont know how to use a Map Optimizer.......... and now i think the game is fixed....... and for the other thing i will fix that soon or maybe tomorrow......

EDIT: I dont know how to use vexorians optimizer...... so i cant protect my map and i just read ap0calypse review just after i submit the map so i dont fix the terrain but i will fix that tomorrow.....

 

[Septimus]

Never ever protect your map especially when you are new to map making to get more tips in development. A much precise review could be make from open sources rather than protect.

Time to evaluate.

1) Description - First of all, the description at this site was way too lacking & unorganize. The same goes to towards the detail in quest log.

2) Terrain - Massive spam of destructible/doodad without proper planning. The flame at the church had been use in excessive amount. There is a lack of tiles variation and destructible/doodad as well.

The entire forest contain tree only, I hardly seen other type of destructible/doodad such as rock or flowers/shrub.

3) Triggering/Scripting - The entire trigger was too ineffective and contain memory leak.

I would just show 1 of the few trigger that are inefficient.

• Boiling Alarm
  • Events
    • Destructible - Lever 2232 <gen> dies
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Wait 2.00 seconds
    • Unit - Create 10 Fire Nation Soldier for Player 1 (Red) at (Center of Boiling Defence 3 <gen>) facing 360.00 degrees
    • Unit - Create 10 Fire Bender for Player 1 (Red) at (Center of Boiling Defence 2 <gen>) facing 360.00 degrees
    • Unit - Create 10 Fire Nation Archer for Player 1 (Red) at (Center of Boiling Defence <gen>) facing 360.00 degrees
    • Unit - Create 5 Elite Fire Bender for Player 1 (Red) at (Center of Elite Defence <gen>) facing Default building facing degrees
    • Wait 2.00 seconds
    • Destructible - Resurrect Lever 2232 <gen> with 100.00 life and Show birth animation
    • Trigger - Turn off (This trigger)

Overall, the entire map was lagging barely 3 minutes of playing. That is because there is a massive spam of unit, destructible/doodad & inefficient trigger with major leak occur.

Apart from that, it contain missing dis_btn icon and hotkey as well.

Go read tutorial and use the map development section to get feedback. They are available at hive forums.

 

[ap0calypse]

Wait......... i'll update it...... i think i dont know how to use a Map Optimizer.......... and now i think the game is fixed....... and for the other thing i will fix that soon or maybe tomorrow......

EDIT: I dont know how to use vexorians optimizer...... so i cant protect my map and i just read ap0calypse review just after i submit the map so i dont fix the terrain but i will fix that tomorrow.....

There it is again, the point army (................)

Protecting a map is in case you've made a lot of efficient systems of which you want nobody to use them (pretty selfish, though).
If you don't fix the 'bug' that I cannot play the map, this will be rejected anyway.

The terrain wasn't the only thing I have mentionned: fix the memory leaks, change the icons of aang, katara and the fire catapult to more fitting icons and edit the standard spells/units.

Basically: everything what Septimus has said after my review

 

[Rifle-Man]

I am not a rewiever, but i gotta do this.
Terrain: 1.5-horrible. Just cliffs and water.
Gameplay: 1-horryfic. A player starts with dozens of units that look almost same and just colored in 255-0-0 density. You just have to crush others with stupid camera and hard-controlled units.
I will now merge terrain and gameplay at the 1-10 scale and... it's 1.2 out of 10. I vote for Rejection and I think you should read WE Tutorial a couple of times before you start your second map.

 

[pomelito123]

I am downloading my own map to know if it is working.......

EDIT: It is Working on me......

There it is again, the point army (................)

Lol.................................

Terrain: 1.5-horrible. Just cliffs and water.

Lol, i dont make the terrain but i will fix that too.

hard-controlled units.

???

 

[supertoinkz]

LOL....................................................................................LOL
you always say lol

As far as i understand, rifle-man meant to say is=

too many units

 

[pomelito123]

LOL....................................................................................LOL
you always say lol

As far as i understand, rifle-man meant to say is=

too many units

Ok i see........

LOL.........

 

[Septimus]

I don't recommend you to protect your map especially when you are still new in map making.

 

[pomelito123]

I don't recommend you to protect your map especially when you are still new in map making.

If you Want, I will give you the link to the unprotected Version

 

[pomelito123]

Updated! Unfortunately, i forgot to optimize it...*facepalm*

After 6 long months, i have updated it at last... but it won't show on the maps list...

 

[Crazed_seal2]

Heres a basic Alliance system:

• Alliance System
• Alliance System
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) types a chat message containing -Ally as A substring
    • Player - Player 2 (Blue) types a chat message containing -Ally as A substring
    • Player - Player 3 (Teal) types a chat message containing -Ally as A substring
    • Player - Player 4 (Purple) types a chat message containing -Ally as A substring
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Substring((Entered chat string), 7, 9)) Equal to Red
      • Then - Actions
        • Player - Make (Triggering player) treat Player 1 (Red) as an Ally with shared vision
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Substring((Entered chat string), 7, 10)) Equal to Blue
      • Then - Actions
        • Player - Make (Triggering player) treat Player 2 (Blue) as an Ally with shared vision
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Substring((Entered chat string), 7, 10)) Equal to Teal
      • Then - Actions
        • Player - Make (Triggering player) treat Player 3 (Teal) as an Ally with shared vision
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Substring((Entered chat string), 7, 13)) Equal to Purple
      • Then - Actions
        • Player - Make (Triggering player) treat Player 4 (Purple) as an Ally with shared vision
      • Else - Actions

Its GUI
I made it from scratch.
It should help.
If Used Please Give Credits to Crazed_seal2
I now have put -War in
-Ally Red
-Ally Blue
-Ally Teal
-Ally Purple
-War Red
-War Blue
-War Teal
-War Purple

 

[pomelito123]

Hey, Thnx men! +rep for you!!! And of course i'll add you in the credits... But for now i'll need to install my WC3 TFT again, coz i reformat my PC...

 

[gangu]

May i know what are the robots for? and how do you get to use the air benders?

 

[pomelito123]

and how do you get to use the air benders?

What???

May i know what are the robots for?

It's a "twist" it is very boring to play a BETA map w/o winning condition and a plain World full of benders(Avatar The Animation), so i put some kind of twist, The Avatar, the 2009 Movie(not really)...

 

[gangu]

please improve the fire nation :/ especially the ships , you said they have the best fire ships , instead they were the worst

 

[pomelito123]

Yes, they have the worst! because fire is weak against water and the sea is water so they don't have the best ships. I just write that so at least they would mind build some ships... And yes they have the "best" FIRE Ships, because some nations don't have Fire Ships, unless they will capture it...