Cavern of Chaos 0.12c

[Moderator]

18:38, 15th Mar 2010
ap0calypse: Approved

 

[dead-man-walking]

Finally! Full Version!

 

[ncommand-]

dont play orpgs without save/load =/

 

[lulol]

Testing ...
Add in your description that your map is protected.

edit : it's writed in your description.. sorry

 

[Bumkt]

I enjoyed it not really anything to complain about. Are you planning on expanding and using the base of this in another map?

 

[overload119]

I enjoyed it not really anything to complain about. Are you planning on expanding and using the base of this in another map?

This map ideas was originally planned for SC2, but SC2 got delayed time after time, so I decided to realize it for Warcraft 3.

In terms of expansion, I'm open to ideas. However, I'm sure that you didn't get that very far. It's quite a difficult map. On the drawing boards
- More bosses
- Class-specific talismans that have effects to do with your class (However, I need ideas for these)

 

[SkeletalHammer]

We got up to the illusion dude, he is insanely hard. We saved and played about 20x before we beat him (only with 4 players) and we shouted in victory when the final holy nova killed him. He keeled over and died, and we all exchanged high fives. To our dismay, an invulnerable miniature version of himself appeared, and casted Arcane Destruction killing us all. BUG.

 

[Houndkiller]

dude this map is very nice but if u dont have anyone that has already played it its quite hard to play like the 4th boss has a move that insta kills whats up with that? and theres no warning that it will do that much dammage. really gay since we got that far just to die like that.

 

[overload119]

We got up to the illusion dude, he is insanely hard. We saved and played about 20x before we beat him (only with 4 players) and we shouted in victory when the final holy nova killed him. He keeled over and died, and we all exchanged high fives. To our dismay, an invulnerable miniature version of himself appeared, and casted Arcane Destruction killing us all. BUG.

Thank you. I'm impressed, as no one has gotten that far. Can you please post a replay?

If you post a replay, I'll definitely put your name in the next version.

dude this map is very nice but if u dont have anyone that has already played it its quite hard to play like the 4th boss has a move that insta kills whats up with that? and theres no warning that it will do that much dammage. really gay since we got that far just to die like that.

Are you referring to the 4th boss as a Pit Lord? Yes, his Call of Fire is instant-death. If you keep him moving though, you'll always be out of range of it.

 

[PB_L]

This Rpg is nice , but it lag to me. If you need help , you can call me i can make better skill system and also it can be if you use spell book as item system. You also need more bosses, spells, import models. I did not play long but i did not know, if there is no Set items and Unique you should add them. So if you need any help with trigger just call me.

 

[Big Dub]

Yay! I helped test this map.

 

[lulol]

The terrain is fine and the challenge is great ...
Spell, skill and attribute are well made.
Heros are fun to play.
Your traps are fun =)
The only "problem" is that we don't feel fighting in a cave.

4/5.
The best dungeon-crawler map with toj.

Suggestion : You should add alternate passage or small secret cave.

The first time i played against the first boss we totally owned him... the second time we all die cause of his 2 guardians casted shockwaves at the same time .
The third time we die cause i played with noobs, but also because he used spell he have not use the first time. So... make him casting his spells faster ! (or not, i'm just frustrated .. it will be impossible after that..)
Next, a time the game bugged, because someone left before choosing his heros.
I will try it with my clan mate .. care, we may end it (we were near to end toj 2 times ... but seem that i'm a noob healer in the worst situation).

 

[mapper300]

nice! i really like this challenging map. Strategy and team work is required to successfully complete the game
5/5

Theres one problem though. When someone quits or lags out before picking their hero, we cant enter the cave!
The first gate wont open

 

[MirageLight]

5/5. great map. terrain, teamwork, i really like the traps at the start, but it kind of disappeared on the later part of the game.

spells are great too.

i tried with a friend and with only a priest and barb its possible to kill till the fat guy with the fire one hit KO spell.

then i found three other friends and reached the illusionist, the arcane explosion thingy "shield" was kinda random. i have to say it relies on luck? isn't it possible to make it not "luck" based?

i have to say all the bosses are pretty cool though, however the one before the illusionist, the swarm guy in the water that duplicated himself on low hp? he was kinda...er easy for the second last boss.

 

[SkeletalHammer]

Ok, uploaded the replay its like 80 min long and its at the end.

 

[wulouis0511]

Thx for SkeletalHammer's replay. You had the cool way to finish the Golem boss. But this replay is just an hour long and stopped at the Queen of Sea in the end.
We have the same problem with Queen of Sea's Piercing Shot. It seems a instant-death shot, but it's never casted on barbarian.

Intervene is the key skill, so queen dosen't shoot barbarians?

MirageLight said Queen is quite easy, was she buffed in later version?

btw, the load system is bugged. you can load up your level and all points you have, but skill mastery architecture won't show up

Edit:I just found the way to push queen to the edge: the barbarian shares control and others control to barbarian push it (we share control for intervene, and found the bug accidentally)

 

[Dangodude]

Awsome map, me and two friends finished it, but the last boss was troublesome with his insta gibbing aoe ability, i'd suggest making the protective bubble more visible and bigger, or giving the players more time to run into it.

We managed to defeat him by pausing the game whenever he used arcane destruction and look for the bubble, and if we survived it we saved the game and could retry if we died.

Also when you save and load in another game, you lose stats, but not from the items, our items stats were higher than the ones we had when we saved, but we still lost stats somehow.

Lower the health of the iron golem boss, he's easy but boring because of his high health.

I would also suggest adding a rogue-like class, or a skill (agility) class.

One last thing, there is a bug with the sea queens tornadoes, if a barbarian push her to the edge, he can be pulled outside of the arena by the tornadoes.

P.S played about 11 Hours and for a beta map, that's pretty much.

 

[overload119]

Ok, uploaded the replay its like 80 min long and its at the end.

Eh, you die at the end so I don't get to see the magician. Are you sure the magician spawns a smaller invulnerable selft, or he just keeps casting spells even though he is dead? Because there was a bug that I fixed for .11a that pauses the boss spelltimer, which was the issue.

 

[SkeletalHammer]

Yea, he just keeps casting spells after he dies.

 

[MirageLight]

Thx for SkeletalHammer's replay. You had the cool way to finish the Golem boss. But this replay is just an hour long and stopped at the Queen of Sea in the end.
We have the same problem with Queen of Sea's Piercing Shot. It seems a instant-death shot, but it's never casted on barbarian.

Intervene is the key skill, so queen dosen't shoot barbarians?

MirageLight said Queen is quite easy, was she buffed in later version?

btw, the load system is bugged. you can load up your level and all points you have, but skill mastery architecture won't show up

Edit:I just found the way to push queen to the edge: the barbarian shares control and others control to barbarian push it (we share control for intervene, and found the bug accidentally)

the thing is, piercing shot onehitkos and never aims on barbs. two of the characters goes down and seemingly..she does nothing after summoning the nagas.(not sure whether this is a bug or not) so we just kill her off easily o.o.

 

[stoian1991]

fuckinggggggggggggggggggggggggg 4th bos has omfg bug or you increased the cast of sacrafice its just pwn us we cant get hum under 19k hp

 

[pray]

Looks like good map afterall.Goin to test

 

[overload119]

fuckinggggggggggggggggggggggggg 4th bos has omfg bug or you increased the cast of sacrafice its just pwn us we cant get hum under 19k hp

He's hard, but possible.

Looks like good map afterall.Goin to test

Cool, if you have any boss ideas after playing it, post it in the thread in my signature.

 

[stoian1991]

before 1.11b we was able to kill all bosses till naga with 2 ppl dont tell me now with 3 or 4 we cant

 

[Dj0z]

A unique damage engine: Physical damage is mitigated by armor, while spell damage is not.

Is that not how physical and magical damage defaultly behave in warcraft 3?..

 

[overload119]

before 1.11b we was able to kill all bosses till naga with 2 ppl dont tell me now with 3 or 4 we cant

I'd like to see the vid. where you did this originally. With 2 people you'd have to be extremely lucky on the second boss (so that he doesn't Garrote your healer) in order to win.

Regardless, the 1-4 bosses remain unchanged except for fixes, and if anything they were made easier..

Is that not how physical and magical damage defaultly behave in warcraft 3?..

Yes you are right, but the damage engine is still there. I fixed the tooltip so its more relevent.

 

[stoian1991]

well this weekend if we have time with my fr we will play on old version and will show you reply right now we have final exams and we have to study so mb some1 can get this like an excuse but i dont want to fail at final

 

[kladd]

me and my friends came to the Naga boss but she is impossible to beat, her piercing shots one-hits you. Anyone got any tactits on how to beat her? Thanks

EDIT : Btw A very nice map, me and my friends love playing it.

 

[LemonsDaBest]

I don't know if it was just me.
After i killed 4 bosses, i can not save

 

[overload119]

I don't know if it was just me.
After i killed 4 bosses, i can not save.

Did you defeat the Rock boss (Mountain Giant)?
Did you defeat the Pit Lord boss?

If so, you will be ported to the next zone. When you are ported, and walk through the portal your hero will automatically be saved. A code will be given, the screen will flash Waypoint Save, and your code will be in the Quests as well.

 

[Quellquun]

very nice and well made map!
A story would make it perfect, anyway 5/5

PS: the first boss is a bit too easy (i could solo him whit a shaman)

 

[wulouis0511]

It would be nice if you post changelogs at description

 

[tellmewhy99]

anyone? why i cant excess page 3 ... lol

 

[Maartz]

Really nice map, but when I played it just a few minutes ago I noticed a real big mistake that you've done with the big stone golem boss. If your unlucky like we were I as a healer was targeted instantly by his insanely long range attack and died so we wiped big time. Also when I got ressed my mate that had 2-3 "Potion of Revival" they all got used at the same time.

You should probably lower his range so that he doesnt reach to the lowest part of the map or make everyone invulnerable the first 3 sec so that the healer(s) can move away.

Apart from that all I can say so far is keep up the good work!

 

[light bolt30]

This map got boring after the 20min mark to me idk why. There wasn't enough fun factor in it for me, although its still a good map 3/5.

 

[overload119]

Really nice map, but when I played it just a few minutes ago I noticed a real big mistake that you've done with the big stone golem boss. If your unlucky like we were I as a healer was targeted instantly by his insanely long range attack and died so we wiped big time. Also when I got ressed my mate that had 2-3 "Potion of Revival" they all got used at the same time.

The Potion of Revival is a bug... Really strange, haven't seen that one come across yet. What hero-type was he?

The Golem having a really long range is intended; in fact, a priest targeted being hit first is intended as well. There are ways to get around this, and it can be dealt with.

 

[frozenbrain]

i had the same problem like maartz i played the shaman and used 2 potions of revival!

but it is a very cool map! i love that you can see your party members on the left side

but could you maybe do difficulties ? so i can do everything with my friend?
i cant play in the internet!

it would be cool if you would add also an rogue or an paladin!

but keep up the good work!

Edit: And maybee Hardmodes! where you get better items from

 

[jonesb18]

Hi ,
If got a question i dont understand why the piercing shot of the naga boss makes so much damage ,
is this abillity buggy or how should we survive the attack.

 

[pesslovany]

Hi
I like this map so much. But you probably stoped development? it's a shame.

Don't somebody want to continue with his work?

 

[SanD3R]

project stoped?

 

[gamezabas3]

need more hero plz.

 

[BeTaGod-]

What happened to this? is still going on? This was the best RPG-styled map i played. Keep up the good work mate!

 

[iRx._.AlexZ]

bug~~

Tiny toss us then priest stuck~~medusa blow us then barbarian stuck~~
owner of this map~~please check the map for the bug~~
Here is our replay~~

 

[multrayzor]

Someone Take this Project!!

I've started playing this map 1 week ago and it is awesome, but after taking a look it seems to be abbandoned, can someone keep on with this map? it would be really nice to have updates with balances, more items, bosses and etc.

 

[overload119]

I've started playing this map 1 week ago and it is awesome, but after taking a look it seems to be abbandoned, can someone keep on with this map? it would be really nice to have updates with balances, more items, bosses and etc.

Just to let everyone know, I'm afraid yes, this map is abandoned.

I made this sometime in high school and now I'm third-year university, so I simply don't have the time to work on it anymore.

I hope one day to get back into game design, but until then thanks for all the positive feedback and bug reports.

 

[rhyjames187]

Gotta check this out on what have you done, I am now looking for nice map.

 

[multrayzor]

Your reply here just reminded me of this game, it is a great rpg!
And now valve realeased dota 2 reborn in their new engine, source 2, which lets you create custom games, and it is pretty sick, you can do whatever you want!

I would love to see this game ported to dota 2 reborn as a custom map, someone please make this happen.

 

[patitocafetero1]

In first , i am learning english ... and it is not good....

i am only registered in hiveworkshop to say to the creator of cavern of chaos must continue His job (cavern of chaos) in dota2 reborn. Your map are one of the best RPG\dungeon ideas and have high potential

PD: do more comments if you like the map and if you want its remake in dota2

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

One of best maps I've played, and I still play it.

5/5 no doubt.