* The only ranged troops are only available at the town hall.
* The Animal War Training upgrade still has that name in the tooltip.
* No siege units, and why is there a workshop in an allied base?
* No units that use the gunpowder upgrades.

This should be put in this forum instead:
Map Development

I would really lower the rating of resources with maps made by Blizzard. Use templates the Hive community made/make instead. That way it's a bit "original".

cleavinghammer said:

* The only ranged troops are only available at the town hall.
* The Animal War Training upgrade still has that name in the tooltip.
* No siege units, and why is there a workshop in an allied base?
* No units that use the gunpowder upgrades.

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(1) Not entirely true. The priest and the hydromancer are supposed to serve also as ranged support units as well as their caster roles. They benefit from blacksmith upgrades for that reason, to keep their damage a bit more competitive. But otherwise, what is your meaning on it exactly? Was it cumbersome because you wanted to train them from the barracks? Did you just find them lacking? I was going for an early campaign style where you haven't unlocked the full techtree yet which is why I limited the techtree. I didn't want to limit it too much though especially as the build up can't be as gradual since I intend only make about 4 missions for the whole campaign.

I would really like to give the Kul Tirans a custom ranged support unit though. Dwarven riflemen are cool and all, but I was hoping for something different for this campaign. Just as a part of the overall flavor.

(2) Thanks, I will fix that.

(3) No seige units was intended. Just a part of the challenge and the limited first mission techtree. The workshop in the allied base is just a part of trying to give the town a bit of character and because it has a cannon tower defending it. Did you find a lack of siege very cumbersome? Maybe I could make the workshop in the southern base rescuable so that the player can get siege units but only after a little bit of effort.

(4) The ranged units are all supposed to use them (spearman, hydromancer, priest), but if I accidentally made everything benefit from the melee upgrades then I will fix that too.

Tyvm for your feedback.

deepstrasz said:

This should be put in this forum instead:
Map Development

I would really lower the rating of resources with maps made by Blizzard. Use templates the Hive community made/make instead. That way it's a bit "original".

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I don't know how to move my thread. Is an admin needed or is that something I can do myself? I also don't know how to lower the rating of the resources. I am not sure what that means, what the current rating is, or if I ever set a rating.

But as for being original, I don't really claim to be. I am just trying to make something fun. I don't see using a Blizzard skirmish map as any different than using a custom model made by another player. I didn't make it and someone else put a lot of work into it and I don't pretend to claim that as my own.

I do want to try to remember to keep track of everything I use though so I can credit people. So far it's the map by Blizzard and the custom daelin on mount model by... uh, some guy... hold on a second...

Ujimasa Hojo is the name and here is the link to the stuff.

Ujimasa Hojo's Resources Discussion

Anyway, thanks for your feedback.

I believe I fixed all the bugs mentioned. Hydromancer and priest were being affected by ranged upgrades from blacksmith as intended, but militia spearman was not. Now he should be. I also added a footman archer and a footman crossbowman. Archer is long ranged and shoots a little faster. Crossbowman is shorter ranged and hits harder. They should synergize well. They also should use ranged blacksmith upgrades. Elite War Training tooltip should be fixed now. I placed a couple of archers and crossbowmen onto the map but otherwise I didn't make any other changes.

It's cumbersome because during the keep's upgrade you can't produce any ranged units, not to mention choosing between making an army or economy.

^ Ah, good.

Did you otherwise enjoy it? Was it too easy? I wanted it to be kind of easy since it's only the first mission without being so easy that it's boring.

Fixed two things. Crossbowman had the wrong sound file, it is now the footman sound file as intended, and Naga sea witch hero drops the frozen orb on death as intended.

I finished it. It's less frustrating than previously, even if the fact that the nage spawn instead of being built is annoying.

There should be a quest update every time you destroy a temple of tides.

Yeah, I'm kind of bad at... uh, I don't even know the word. I don't think it's programming.

Anyway, not great at mapmaking, lol. I think I could probably figure out how to make quest updates. That doesn't sound too hard.

I have no idea how to make actual AI though which is why I made their attacks via spawning. I tried not to make it look too terrible since the naga attacks are coming out of the water which should kind of suit the theme.

Thanks for playing again.

Maybe just make it depend on buildings still standing?

You know, spawning grounds destroyed->remove turtles or myrmidons from spawn, temple-> no sirens, destroy a special building->no giant hunters or hydrae...

The waves are triggered to stop though. If you destroy the temple of the tides the waves from that base are supposed to stop spawning. So like if you destroy the purple temple of the tides then the purple waves that attack both the player and the ally will stop spawning.

Was that not happening? Maybe I did the triggers wrong, but when I did it myself I thought it was working.

Or do you just mean it would be better if each specific type spawning was cancelled by specific buildings? That might be better but I am a bit lazy to do that... lol.

Edit:

If you are curious, my current to do list regarding this little project is thus: figure out how to make quest updates, figure out how to make better AI for following levels, make cutscenes at start and end of this mission, and make sure hero is being saved from mission to mission (I already started work on that, but I can't confirm if I did the cache stuff right yet).

Please don't double or triple post again. Also, yes, you need a moderator/reviewer too move a thread.
I will check this out.
Please do make the description bigger though, if you are planning on making a campaign, you should add lore, info of the heroes, the setting (normal Azeroth, alternate Azeroth, totally not Azeroth) as well as a bunch of info about the race/faction you play as.
I will still check out how it works, I am putting it into awaiting update for now.

This is not good, not good at all.

You've come to the wrong website to upload this kind of fun map.

The Hiveworkshop is a snob site, accepting only high quality and/or originality.
The rest goes to the Substandard Section.