Finally, lore-logic gray orcs lol. We waited.

What's the point of these grayscale reskin models? I may get the reskin appeal, but not the lazy grayscale on the entire model, boots included. Were his boots also dominated?

Wlarius said:

What's the point of these grayscale reskin models? I may get the reskin appeal, but not the lazy grayscale on the entire model, boots included. Were his boots also dominated?

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that's for his personal project which he shares his used assets

you better actually justify your 1/5 rating

I think the tattoo is too "wide", but otherwise everything is great, as always I miss the glow on the ax, like your Dominated Grunt

Ardenaso said:

that's for his personal project which he shares his used assets

you better actually justify your 1/5 rating

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I rated 1/5 because the base model is unchaged, and the texture is just a recolour with bare minimum effort. Grayscale takes less than 10 seconds in Photoshop. As for the blue markings, even if it's hand drawn, it's not enough work for a model in my opinion. If the effort put into Baggysta's or Raddazong's grunt models can only be 5/5, then I simply cannot see this being any more than a 20% effort. And it's not like baby's first steps in modelling, as these models are flooding Hive without any visible improvement in quality from model to model.

Wlarius said:

I rated 1/5 because the base model is unchaged, and the texture is just a recolour with bare minimum effort. Grayscale takes less than 10 seconds in Photoshop. As for the blue markings, even if it's hand drawn, it's not enough work for a model in my opinion. If the effort put into Baggysta's or Raddazong's grunt models can only be 5/5, then I simply cannot see this being any more than a 20% effort. And it's not like baby's first steps in modelling, as these models are flooding Hive without any visible improvement in quality from model to model.

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First of all, you don't even make models as seen in your empty profile so you don't know how long it takes, which is enormously hypocritical of you, second, the dominated ones are gray and blue, those are their colors, didn't you see Anduin? Or the jailer's troops? Third, the fact that it is only a reeskin has a justification in terms of lore, they are not models made just because, if not, they have a story (created by me) with their respective justification, which I already mentioned before, and lastly, yes You think it can be done in 10 minutes, create a reeskin and make sure it's PERFECT, because there are reeskins that have very small details in which they forget to completely change the texture, such as the part where the tail is on the cenarius of vindorei ice, so I repeat, if you don't know, don't comment because it's very hypocritical of you, I literally spent 24 hours just doing the tattoos

fran bel said:

First of all, you don't even make models as seen in your empty profile so you don't know how long it takes, which is enormously hypocritical of you, second, the dominated ones are gray and blue, those are their colors, didn't you see Anduin? Or the jailer's troops? Third, the fact that it is only a reeskin has a justification in terms of lore, they are not models made just because, if not, they have a story (created by me) with their respective justification, which I already mentioned before, and lastly, yes You think it can be done in 10 minutes, create a reeskin and make sure it's PERFECT, because there are reeskins that have very small details in which they forget to completely change the texture, such as the part where the tail is on the cenarius of vindorei ice, so I repeat, if you don't know, don't comment because it's very hypocritical of you, I literally spent 24 hours just doing the tattoos

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I was not aware one needs to be a modeler on Hive to rate or give opinion on models. I thought this is a site where people's work can be rated due to usefullness or creativity, and I did exactly that. Just because you don't like it, it is still an opinion not a personal attack. If you don't agree, just ignore it. That's what everybody does these days. Or ask Hive to remove it and become another site where "dislikes" are hidden/manipulated.

Wlarius said:

I was not aware one needs to be a modeler on Hive to rate or give opinion on models. I thought this is a site where people's work can be rated due to usefullness or creativity, and I did exactly that. Just because you don't like it, it is still an opinion not a personal attack. If you don't agree, just ignore it. That's what everybody does these days. Or ask Hive to remove it and become another site where "dislikes" are hidden/manipulated.

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It's even simpler, you don't like it, don't see it, and saying that it's something that can be done in 10 seconds and saying nonsense about how boots can also be controlled, is directly not knowing and putting shit to put it in, which is a tremendous mistake of respect, it's not saying I don't like it, it's disrespectful with those comments, but hey to people like you, even if you show them reality on paper, they are unable to see it, at least I already have content to laugh at on YouTube XD , So thanks

fran bel said:

It's even simpler, you don't like it, don't see it, and saying that it's something that can be done in 10 seconds and saying nonsense about how boots can also be controlled, is directly not knowing and putting shit to put it in, which is a tremendous mistake of respect, it's not saying I don't like it, it's disrespectful with those comments, but hey to people like you, even if you show them reality on paper, they are unable to see it, at least I already have content to laugh at on YouTube XD , So thanks

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You should stand above this and not get on their level as well.

I loved the model so much that I will make a video about it, wanting to see more dominated models

General Frank said:

You should stand above this and not get on their level as well.

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I know, I beg your pardon, but it makes me very angry that a random person who has no idea comes to say that this can be done in 10 seconds and that there is not a minimum of effort when I was there from 12 noon to 9 p.m. just to make model tattoo

Wlarius said:

I rated 1/5 because the base model is unchaged, and the texture is just a recolour with bare minimum effort. Grayscale takes less than 10 seconds in Photoshop. As for the blue markings, even if it's hand drawn, it's not enough work for a model in my opinion. If the effort put into Baggysta's or Raddazong's grunt models can only be 5/5, then I simply cannot see this being any more than a 20% effort. And it's not like baby's first steps in modelling, as these models are flooding Hive without any visible improvement in quality from model to model.

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Even if the change is minimal or maximum, it will help someone in the future and download it. Everything contributes to the community, your opinion is valid if you don't like the model, but your speech of belittling a contribution is not acceptable.

Wlarius said:

What's the point of these grayscale reskin models? I may get the reskin appeal, but not the lazy grayscale on the entire model, boots included. Were his boots also dominated?

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A disliking option is one thing, but direspect is another.

You're right about Hive being one of the few remaining websites with an actual notation system, and everyone may already be a bit too nice to each other, for example some really simple edits can easily have 5 stars, 4 at worst, just because at last one person was waiting for it to happen, while no one feel the need to downvote it... even if the colors remind us of our kid's felt-tip colorings... But it's normal, on another hand, because no one is pro here (and when it's the case, it's a singularity). Everyone is working for free or almost, doing their best while already knowing they won't even be able to do everything they want to create.

So yeah, when you know how to work, you know quality is important, but not wasting your time is even more. Hand painting every single strands of tissue on a kilt, that's gonna be viewed from RTS view or far in the back in an amateure cinematic at best... is not worth 10 times the hours that could be used to make way more content (we never have enough). Plus if, you look closely, the metal, skin and leather may be grayscale, but there is also those cyan parts that has been cut out from the original bronze plates in the model – except on the axe BTW, If I have a remark to make...

At last, it's also true that 100% grayscale never feels quite right; as in art, the saying is you never shade in black, because you can always use even the faintest tint of color for most cases. For example ivory hot white will feel different than azurian cold snow white, especially is those two are next to each other, representing completely different objects. When you look at Jailer and Anduin, they are globally gray, but we can try to analyze all the shades of colors they use... (in any case, 3D lighting also plays a big factor of the final render...) But as I said, time is precious, and I love wasting mine way too much on details. xD (I hope when I train enough it will become natural to me... that's called skill I guess) But I allow myself those remarks because it doesn't feel like much more amount work compared to what has already been put into this.

So that would he 4.5 stars for me, rounded to 5. Because this still largely fits its own standards, and ours: we have a model, free (of course but !), it's working, no bugs, it's globally nice, and it just doesn't do less than the jobs it's made for. Those handpainted marks actually easily outweigh some simplified means... And at the end, THAT is what makes 90% of the look, that most people will ever notice. Yes, a 5 stars CAN be improved ; by definition perfection never really comes to life, but it's neither necessar.