[Trigger] Why doesn't this work?

[Teitan]

Hey there, i made an ability that reduces the armor of the target for a set amount of seconds, i'm using a trick where i add a negative armor bonus to the target in order to reduce its armor, then i place a wait before removing it, but for some reason the ability stays forever

Here is the trigger:

• Pierce LVL 1
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Pierce
    • (Level of Pierce for (Triggering unit)) Equal to 1
  • Actions
    • Unit - Add Pierce LVL 1 Spellbook to (Target unit of ability being cast)
    • Wait 3.00 game-time seconds
    • Unit - Remove Pierce LVL 1 Spellbook from (Target unit of ability being cast)

The trigger adds the neagtive ability to the unit, but it never removes it, i have no idea why

Help please

 

[Rigborn]

Things like Target unit of ability being cast, trained unit and so on lose their reference after waits. so you need to save that target unit of ability being cast to a variable. If you want it to be MUI, you can use local variables.

 

[Pyrogasm]

Event Response Myths explains which work after waits and in what capacity.

This spell would be more simply achieved by creating a dummy Inner Fire-based ability that reduces armor for 3 seconds, then dummy casting it on the target.

 

[EnterpriseReforged]

Event Response Myths explains which work after waits and in what capacity.

This spell would be more simply achieved by creating a dummy Inner Fire-based ability that reduces armor for 3 seconds, then dummy casting it on the target.

This 100% I have had so many problems with

• Wait 3.00 game-time seconds

for some reason, it seems that some of the actions are called in a strange order per the actual selection in-game,

 

[Teitan]

Hey thanks everyone, i will try to use variables then

 

[EnterpriseReforged]

Hey thanks everyone, i will try to use variables then

yep good luck buddy Its a pain to fight with that bug

 

[DoomBlade]

• Melee Initialization
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Level of YourSpell for (Triggering unit)) Equal to 1
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to YourSpell
  • Actions
    • Custom script: local unit udg_YourTarget
    • Custom script: local real udg_YourTime
    • Custom script: set udg_YourTarget = GetSpellTargetUnit()
    • Custom script: set udg_YourTime = 3
    • Unit - Add Item Armor Bonus (+3) to YourTarget
    • Wait YourTime game-time seconds
    • Unit - Remove Item Armor Bonus (+3) from YourTarget
    • Custom script: set udg_YourTarget = null

This should work, if you didn't make it already.

 

[Teitan]

Hey Doomblade, thank you so much, yes i already had a working trigger but yours looks more efficient so i will use it instead

 

[DoomBlade]

Hey Doomblade, thank you so much, yes i already had a working trigger but yours looks more efficient so i will use it instead

No problem.
I noticed I made one mistake. Since the local is real you should set it to 3.00 instead of 3.

 

[Pyrogasm]

Triggering Unit is wait-safe and there’s no reason to use a local to store the duration. The trigger can be done without any of the locals.

 

[DoomBlade]

Triggering Unit is wait-safe and there’s no reason to use a local to store the duration. The trigger can be done without any of the locals.

Only that here he wants to refer to target unit of ability being cast and not triggering unit. You don't want to give the poor caster -3 armor now, do you?

Also done with locals like this it's MUI. Which I think was one of the things he wanted to achieve.

 

[Pyrogasm]

You're correct that I didn't read the line properly. However, this armor reduction can still be done without the locals and waiting by:

• a dummy unit that can instantly attack (see dummies that can instantly cast) with an orb of corruption ability
• dummy casting a modified Faerie Fire on the target (FF can reduce armor).

Sometimes the simplest solution is best. This way will provide a buff to show their armor has been reduced.

 

[Teitan]

I actually used a modified devotion aura(self only, range of 1, etc) inside of a hidden spellbook, for some reason using a negative ring of protection ability was crashing the game

 

[DoomBlade]

@Pyrogasm Does buffs outside of auras stack now?

Creating abilities 1, 2 and 3 with Faerie Fire

Ability 1: Reduces armor by 5
Ability 2: Reduces armor by 3
Ability 3: Reduces armor by 2

So now if the unit had all the negative buffs would the unit have -10 armor?

If my memory is not horribly failing, people used to use aura abilities and hide them, because a buff wouldn't stack, even if you changed the buff field in the object editor.

If they made some improvements regarding this manner and you can actually now stack buffs (outside of auras), then great!

 

[Pyrogasm]

@Pyrogasm Does buffs outside of auras stack now?

Yes.

 

[DoomBlade]

Yes.

Well, I didn't actually know that. Would have made mapping a lot easier. Thank you for your informative feedback!