Using multiple Berserk abilities

[plumsy460]

I tried using multiple Berserk abilities on one unit.

It didn't work in spite of changing the order string for each ability.
The ability stacks and they seem to still use the same Order ID.

Is this a common problem or am I doing something wrong?


I'm looking for a solution to use -INSTANT- cast abilities that does not replace orders... -channel is therefor not an option-.

Thank you in advance

 

[Kakerate]

Why is channel not an option? You can change its cast to instant.

 

[Wietlol]

Channel cannot give a buff to a unit equal as there is no way I know to actually do that.
I do have some ideas though.

 

[LordDz]

Channel can be used to trigger a dummy unit that casts a spell with a buff, say Bloodlust or Inner Fire.

 

[plumsy460]

The idea is to use several instant abilities that does NOT replace orders, and therefor also have no cast time. - and all for ONE unit.

So far berserk is the only ability I know that does exactly that.


I'm interested in knowing any ideas on how this is achieved.
As for -Channel-, it always has a "cast" and will replace orders in spite of settings.

 

[Kakerate]

I think defend also does that, not positive though.

 

[NightStalker]

Im with LordDz here, why not use dummy units to cast a spell at that moment to YOUR unit only, decrease your dummy unit's cast animation and the spell's too and it should work

 

[sentrywiz]

Changing order ID does nothing on non Channel spells.

Option 1
Use dummy units and dummy spells with buff granting spells like Bloodlust.
For faster execution don't create dummy units just order them to cast the spell. This means placing dummies on the map with ready spells

Option 2
Use berserk once and when cast - remove it from the unit then add it again. This will reset it's cooldown as well.

 

[rulerofiron99]

Instead of using the ability event, use the order event to start your spell, and immediately re-issue the unit's last order.

 

[Cokemonkey11]

I was recently wondering how to do this.

@ruleofiron99 is that how dota's invoker works?

 

[Death Adder]

The idea is to use several instant abilities that does NOT replace orders, and therefor also have no cast time. - and all for ONE unit.

So far berserk is the only ability I know that does exactly that.

There's the toggle abilities: immolation, mana shield, defend, magic defend, etc. (if you don't want toggle just issue order undefend in the trigger)

Roar, Battle Roar (they might share same order string) and, I think, howl of terror don't interupt orders but have casting time. You could set the cast backswing and point to 0 and they should work similar to berserk.

Windwalk and Avatar also does not interrupt order, you'd either set the duration really low or remove the buff. (You might be using the buff from berserk for something but windwalk or avatar have to be removed to not have side effects)