Tropic Adventure Re-Remastered

[Moderator]

18:41, 8th Apr 2014
Hell_Master: Map approved with a rating of 2/5 (Lacking). See eubz's review regarding the map:

Re-review

Map Title: Tropic Adventure

Map Author/Uploader: Created By stan0033

Reviewer: eubz

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Review

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Tropic Adventure is a escape type of map. You will have to do whatsoever you have to do inorder to escape the island. The gameplay is very simple, you will pass into many creeps and deal with them if you want to survive. I couldn't say more on the triggering because the map is somewhat locked/protected but I see no lags as I played the map.

This uses default hero abilities meaning nothing you can see new which pertains to the spells of the hero. No custom models as well. All you can see are the default units of warcraft 3. Here you can see some murlocks/murgols, bandits, and nagas in your way.

Nothing really so special in this map.

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Suggestions

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Try to add some new stuffs here. Might be new spells, new units, etc. Also, I don't know why you have that tower item at the start. What's its usefulness in the map. You can replace that with something useful in a escape map. You can also add some more items aside from the items you used here. I am wondering why there is an Arcane Vault in the area. Is this area ones inhabited by humans and then they fled away because of the growing population of creeps? Actually, you can change this to something like a neutral unit or a goblin merchant.

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Vote

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The map is playable with single player and could be acceptable. Approve with a rating 2/5 (Acceptable) because what you can only see are the default warcraft 3 units, items, hero and spells. And some unfitting units that I have seen.

 

[PlankingWolf]

Looks very awesome, but some people might not want to see a description such as yours, it's okay for me, but not for some people. I suggest Kobas' http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/miscellaneous-tutorials-456/map-description-templates-171659/
Now on to the terrain. The terrain needs more variation, like more tiles? The dirt road might look better with more doodads, debris, and a bit more dirt stuff, I guess?
Same goes for the grass.
By the way, nice introduction video!

 

[eubz]

old review

1. You have point/location leaks in your init trigger and some other triggers that use locations.
2. The use of tile variation is good but the terrain is flat. You could raise some areas to have terrain slope variation.
3. I think the lake at the middle eats much space in the map but this is not a big issue.
4. You could have added more neutral units and some custom weather effects and the like.
5. Add what type of map is this.
Rating soon.

Additional things to look into:
1. In your quest, "escape this island" is not enough to direct a player what to do in your map. Add some more explaining a bit about what should a player do.
2. Text messages for every event should be present.
3. In the undead region, instead of the pathing blockers use invulnerable gate that only opens once the task is done.
4. It is a wise decision to remove pathing blockers in some of the areas like what I said above and in the area where there is some crates and barrels to destroy. I think blockers there is not important because there is no special event that occurs in that area.
5. What's the reason of removing those circle of powers after they are rescued? It is better if you remove one if the other one has been rescued. This is to set the revival point right?
6. (Position of hero) in your ressurect trigger should be set in a variable and should be removed after revival.


RATING: 2/5 needs fix

New review here

 

[stan0033]

old comment

Some of your tips are redundant and useless, as this is my idea and map. Here are the changes I made - the crossed text is fixed. the underlined will not be changed.

1. You have point/location leaks in your init trigger and some other triggers that use locations.
2. The use of tile variation is good but the terrain is flat. You could raise some areas to have terrain slope variation.
3. I think the lake at the middle eats much space in the map but this is not a big issue. - you ask me to change my map entirely, just because you don't like it? no way...
4. You could have added more neutral units and some custom weather effects and the like.
5. Add what type of map is this.


Additional things to look into:
1. In your quest, "escape this island" is not enough to direct a player what to do in your map. Add some more explaining a bit about what should a player do.
2. Text messages for every event should be present.
3. In the undead region, instead of the pathing blockers use invulnerable gate that only opens once the task is done. - This is trifle.
4. It is a wise decision to remove pathing blockers in some of the areas like what I said above and in the area where there is some crates and barrels to destroy. I think blockers there is not important because there is no special event that occurs in that area. - I don't think the same way you do.
5. What's the reason of removing those circle of powers after they are rescued? It is better if you remove one if the other one has been rescued. This is to set the revival point right?
6. (Position of hero) in your ressurect trigger should be set in a variable and should be removed after revival.

UPDATED

 

[eubz]

Please, do fix what is shown in the image:

fix me

1. I think the lake at the middle eats much space in the map but this is not a big issue.

This is just a suggestion. If you don't want it, it's just fine.

In the undead region, instead of the pathing blockers use invulnerable gate that only opens once the task is done.

It is a wise decision to remove pathing blockers in some of the areas like what I said above and in the area where there is some crates and barrels to destroy. I think blockers there is not important because there is no special event that occurs in that area.

Would increase rating if you do what I stated above about pathing blockers.

NOTE:
I see changes and that's good. Hey, I like your map a lot it's just that there are some issues You must tackle in making this better. I'll set my rating 3/5 if you fix what is shown by the image above.

 

[stan0033]

Fixed

 

[Orcnet]

I set it back to pending again.

 

[eubz]

downloaded for a re-review.

 

[Heinvers]

You forgot to put a type for your map. Fix that.

 

[stan0033]

here you go

 

[eubz]

There are still things you have to review in your map:
1. You have to pause all units at the end of the game or you can make everyone allied because when a cinematic is played, there are still fighting units. I win just by killing one naga royal guard.
2. The hero stops leveling up after level 5 and then, as to my surprise, it levels up to 6 and none follows. Please, fix this.
3. Tell the player how to destroy the portal because I was like thinking how to do this until I found out that you must stand in a naga circle because you will be given a spell to destroy the portal. The spell's x,y position is not fixed. I guess its 3-2 and it uses the hero's ultimate spell. Please fix this also.
You have made some updates here and I am glad you did it. You might want to do some pointers I said above.

 

[stan0033]

1. Fixed.
2. I don't know why is this happening. The gameplay contstants are default ones.
3. Fixed

 

[eubz]

Do you have plans to make triggered spells for your hero? Because your hero has only default abilities.
EDIT
Try to add this trigger and let us see what will happen:

LevelUp Events Time - Elapsed game time is 0.01 seconds Conditions Actions Hero - Make (Owner of OurHero) Heroes gain 90.00% experience from future kills

 

[stan0033]

No, I wont change the spells of the hero at all.

So you want to level faster? or to try fix the bug you described with the levelling?

 

[eubz]

So you want to level faster? or to try fix the bug you described with the levelling?

Not a fast leveling up but that one is just to fix the problem. You can set the percentage as you want, you know it.

 

[stan0033]

OK, added your trigger.

 

[eubz]

The hero still won't level up with the trigger added. One more thing you can do is to use Player 11 for the neutral hostile units and name that player a "Tropic creeps" or "Tropic Guardians".

 

[Dark-Zalor]

You don't need triggers

There is a line in game constant
Xp from monsters :
its written 80, 70, 60, 50, 0 (Default)

This show the percentage of Xp a hero will get in your game from killing monsters :
lvl 1 your hero will get 80%
lvl 2 your hero will get 70%
lvl 3 your hero will get 60%
lvl 4 your hero will get 50%
after lvl 5 your hero will get 0%

You have (I think) to remove every value and just write 90

 

[stan0033]

^ I like this comment. updated.

 

[eubz]

Re-review

Map Title: Tropic Adventure

Map Author/Uploader: Created By Bluehelff ; Uploaded by: stan0033

Reviewer: eubz

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Review

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Tropic Adventure is a escape type of map. You will have to do whatsoever you have to do inorder to escape the island. The gameplay is very simple, you will pass into many creeps and deal with them if you want to survive. I couldn't say more on the triggering because the map is somewhat locked/protected but I see no lags as I played the map.

This uses default hero abilities meaning nothing you can see new which pertains to the spells of the hero. No custom models as well. All you can see are the default units of warcraft 3. Here you can see some murlocks/murgols, bandits, and nagas in your way.

Nothing really so special in this map.

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Suggestions

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Try to add some new stuffs here. Might be new spells, new units, etc. Also, I don't know why you have that tower item at the start. What's its usefulness in the map. You can replace that with something useful in a escape map. You can also add some more items aside from the items you used here. I am wondering why there is an Arcane Vault in the area. Is this area ones inhabited by humans and then they fled away because of the growing population of creeps? Actually, you can change this to something like a neutral unit or a goblin merchant.

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Vote

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The map is playable with single player and could be acceptable. Approve with a rating 2/5 (Acceptable) because what you can only see are the default warcraft 3 units, items, hero and spells. And some unfitting units that I have seen.

 

[Krazykid]

Looks too simple, although i wont judge a book by its cover. i might dl this and try it but not now.

 

[Melodia]

I guess author spent 20 or 25 minutes for this

 

[stan0033]

then you don' have any mapmaking skills and knowledge.

 

[Streak]

The triggers are very simple to me and the leveling you should check the game constants if you want the hero only gain ex form killing set the global distribution to false

 

[Melodia]

then you don' have any mapmaking skills and knowledge.

I will not agree. Though I have only "Bejeweled" publicied on this forum, but u can see my skills in it.)

 

[Deleted member 247165]

Pardon me but how was this approved if it is lacking a lot of things? I also see that the ratings weren't that friendly either :/ I will not change its status although I should, but because it was approved in 2014 based on idk what criteria I only suggest you to improve it. You have a start from where to build on

 

[stan0033]

Pardon me but how was this approved if it is lacking a lot of things? I also see that the ratings weren't that friendly either :/ I will not change its status although I should, but because it was approved in 2014 based on idk what criteria I only suggest you to improve it. You have a start from where to build on

I just made it look nicer and you tell me it's lacking.. the purpose of this SIMPLE map is to be straightforward escape map. Idk what you want from me. And yes, it's old map, approved in 2014

 

[Deleted member 247165]

I just made it look nicer and you tell me it's lacking.. the purpose of this SIMPLE map is to be straightforward escape map. Idk what you want from me. And yes, it's old map, approved in 2014

Haven't tested it indeed. I just took a look throughout the comments and checked the ratings, you know those count as well as feedback, right? That's why I told you to improve it. And trust me, there is always room for improvement...no matter the game or the genre!