Troll_Unmounted

[Moderator]

21:43, 13th May 2009
Pyritie: I don't get it. Why do we need this? It's a troll model with demon hunter animations.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Well dang... That's a neat Troll. Where'd you get the legs from?

Though I'm really full-up on custom Troll models, I think this is cool anyway. Nice.

 

[PROXY]

Thanks
the legs are only the reskined legs of the forest troll

 

[Kyrbi0]

Is it actually not Team-Colored?

 

[PROXY]

No, it has not teamcolour, and i'm a really big big big noob in modelling and skinning and i don't know how i can make teamcolour

 

[Kuhneghetz]

Would have been more filesize friendly if the model only used ingame (aka non-custom) textures.

And yeah, team color would increase the usefulness. When you edit a geoset's material via Magos War3 Model Editor, you can add two layers on it, one with ReplaceableID 1 (aka Team Color) and one with the texture (Blend mode should be applied to blend with team color).

 

[Kyrbi0]

Would have been more filesize friendly if the model only used ingame (aka non-custom) textures.

Yeah. I don't know why you have to re-import the Textures\BatTroll.blp, but you could probably get away with wrapping his legs on the Shadow Hunter texture, y'know.

And yeah, team color would increase the usefulness. When you edit a geoset's material via Magos War3 Model Editor, you can add two layers on it, one with ReplaceableID 1 (aka Team Color) and one with the texture (Blend mode should be applied to blend with team color).

Dangit, beat me to it. I just learned that.

 

[PROXY]

mhm, i try to add teamcolour now, but then the whole head is teamcolour...

 

[Kyrbi0]

Really? It should only show through the alpha'd parts (like the currently-white mohawk and headbands and stuff).

 

[Kuhneghetz]

mhm, i try to add teamcolour now, but then the whole head is teamcolour...

Then try switch the textures on the layers (layer 1 uses layer 2's texture and layer 2 uses layer 1's texture).

 

[Kyrbi0]

Or make a new, separate Material layer with the original skin (just that one skin), and set any geosets that are now all TCed to that.

(not sure that made sense)

 

[PROXY]

Ok, i will try

Edit: OK, i redid the skin a very little bit and now the teamcolour on the bandages works, but the problem with the hair is that, my modeleditor see the teamcolour things of the hear as alphad out.

 

[Kuhneghetz]

I noticed that the hair and the head are different geosets, so there's an effective solution for your issue. Give the hair geoset (or the head geoset) a new material.

 

[PROXY]

Ok... now the teamcolour on the hair works, (after a lot of experiments) but 1. the whole hair is teamcolour now and 2. the bandages hides in parts of stand 1, 3,4. What can I do?

 

[Cralle95]

The hair should be changed i think great work anyway =)

 

[Kuhneghetz]

1. the whole hair is teamcolour now

You forgot to add a layer where you can apply the Troll Batrider texture. Don't forget to also add a Blend effect to that layer so the Batrider texture will blend well with the team color.

2. the bandages hides in parts of stand 1, 3,4.

Seeing as the model uses Demon Hunter animations, which makes it a hero unit, you can open Geoset Animation Manager to remove all geoset animations.


Also, since he's a ground unit, you should remove the cloud particles from the portrait model.

 

[AIagremm]

Hm. Not bad.
Is there a model of unmounted Bat?
Then some mapmakers could use the Hipppogryph Rider merging ability.
That would be a great thing for anyone who is making a troll race.

 

[TheGodOfIron]

Looks and decent after my first test.
And yes, the lack of team colour turns down the rating of this model by one star.
But again, it's a nice try, +rep for your work.

Edit: Sorry for the late comment, the team colour works now.

 

[D a w n]

I don´t get why you have to use a custom texture for this 1......

 

[Kyrbi0]

Seeing as the model uses Demon Hunter animations, which makes it a hero unit, you can open Geoset Animation Manager to remove all geoset animations.

Wait, really? Why? Are those only for buildings or something?

Is there a model of unmounted Bat?
Then some mapmakers could use the Hipppogryph Rider merging ability.
That would be a great thing for anyone who is making a troll race.

No.
Definitely sounds like an interesting idea, but I'll pass; there's no more room in the race, and it's honestly just an unfortunate copy of the actual "Mount Hippogryph" ability. :<

 

[Kuhneghetz]

Wait, really? Why? Are those only for buildings or something?

I just gave him the KISS method (which is shorten for Keep It Simple Stupid).

Geoset Animations are only for moments when you want the geoset to dissapear.
For instance, in non-hero units, you want to hide the flesh'n bones geoset in all animations except for Decay ones while the body should be hidden in Decay Bone.

 

[Da-Imbaness]

You made it only with Magos?

 

[PROXY]

Damnit, the screenshot doesn't works...

Ok, here is the finished model!