The King Varian Wrynn With 1300 Faces

[paladinjst]

King Varian Wrynn【UPDATE】

U know , I'm always waiting for a guy which can make a varian's model , but there is no one until now ... ...so it's make me , the very lazy guy , have to make one , the king varian , current has 1306 faces , finished in few hours with 3D MAX ...
my english is poor so i'm lazy wirting english words in this thread . but it doesn't mean to i can't modeling like the famous guy in hive ~
i'll draw the textures by myself if i have free time in recent days...

i just do the model which i want to do , so i don't take any request ...

the king will coming soon ... wish u like him ~

【UPDATE】
Two hours work ...Remade the same scale as Proudmoore in WC3 ...now it looks like a human , not a dwarf ... make a new varian's weapon , not my formly one ... I remained the old version's snapshot to compare with the new one ...

 

[D a w n]

he looks kinda small or fat so far, but the mesh looks promissing.

 

[paladinjst]

he looks kinda small or fat so far, but the mesh looks promissing.

hmmm...indeed , the body looks like a fat kid ~ i made him fatter cause the warcraft III 's style is "fat" lol ~~ and now it looks too fat ~ i'll modify it , thanks for ur advice ~

 

[A.R.]

You could easily shave off a number of polygons by making the arms and legs four-sided rather than six-sided. Ditto the cape and the back of the head, polygons should only be used to describe the bare minimum amount of detail and leave the rest to the texture. Also, the neck looks kinda short, even for King Gorilla Varian.

Otherwise, looks good. The pauldrons are sweet, indeed

 

[Holy Crusader]

Nice! Maybe you work on his Hairtail a bit and make it kinda twisted like in WoW
And yes too fat xD BTW: which programm do you use ?

 

[Super-Sheep]

I didnt know that he was a dwarf.

 

[paladinjst]

nice! :d maybe you work on his hairtail a bit and make it kinda twisted like in wow
and yes too fat xd btw: Which programm do you use :d?

3d max

 

[paladinjst]

I didnt know that he was a dwarf.

all the human male units from wc3 always like dwarves ... however , i should edit it so that make him look close to human ...

 

[Grievous1]

I like your idea to bring him to warcraft 3. You just need to make him a little bit smaller then he will fits the wc3 human styl more than perfectly. Please don't give your great idea up! +rep

 

[Skycraft]

He looks pretty awesome, would love to see how he would look in Warcraft 3.
Nice job.

 

[Ilike]

He looks awesome, but like the others said: he is a bit fat .

 

[HeroSlayer]

You could easily shave off a number of polygons by making the arms and legs four-sided rather than six-sided. Ditto the cape and the back of the head, polygons should only be used to describe the bare minimum amount of detail and leave the rest to the texture. Also, the neck looks kinda short, even for King Gorilla Varian.

Otherwise, looks good. The pauldrons are sweet, indeed

4 instead of 6?! that would make it look ugly, and just to save 1 or 2 KB in the model file.
LOL I hate the people who think low polies are better than beauty.

 

[PROXY]

4 instead of 6?! that would make it look ugly, and just to save 1 or 2 KB in the model file.
LOL I hate the people who think low polies are better than beauty.

Well, you're right, and false. For simple models like a footman it would be shure a good idea to make the hands like suggested above, as it would be used very often in a map normaly. As for the Varian model, it is no problem, as you said, when it has more faces, as it is going to be used proabably 1-3 times in a map.

 

[Tauer]

It's a good start. I'd probably make him alot thinner though. He looks a little fat right now.

Keep up the work though!

 

[NhazUl]

Well. He's armored and not very fat for the WC3 style, but shrink his head a little. He won't look like a dwarf then.

Looks good, and 1300 polygons for the body aren't that much.

 

[Tauer]

How's this coming along?

 

[paladinjst]

How's this coming along?

don't worry
it's easy for me to finish it but i'm lazy at this moment . i can done it in one day if i have a day which i want to do something . i won't give him new animations ... cause this will take a lot of time ...maybe i'll give him the paladin's action .

 

[paladinjst]

now i had updated ...
Two hours work ...Remade the same scale as Proudmoore in WC3 ...now it looks like a human , not a dwarf ... make a new varian's weapon , not my formly one ... I remained the old version's snapshot to compare with the new one ...

 

[Deolrin]

4 instead of 6?! that would make it look ugly, and just to save 1 or 2 KB in the model file.
LOL I hate the people who think low polies are better than beauty.

Mhm, and now, give me one example of a WC3 hero who has 6-sided cylinders for arms and legs instead of 4-sided ones.

...It simply looks better as it fits better in-game.

 

[HeroSlayer]

Mhm, and now, give me one example of a WC3 hero who has 6-sided cylinders for arms and legs instead of 4-sided ones.

...It simply looks better as it fits better in-game.

its not the polycount that makes it look like it fits the game better, its the shape of the unit, the proportion of the chest, head, legs , etc...

A well shaped unit with a considerable polycount looks really good -_-

And the heroes have only 4 sides because detail was something wc3 couldnt have, it was launched in 2002, by that time not every computer could handle the game, just like sc2 when it was launched

 

[takakenji]

i would recommend arthas w/ sword animations if you arnt making your own

 

[paladinjst]

i would recommend arthas w/ sword animations if you arnt making your own

i'll use proudmoore's animation ... so i made the same scale between two kind of models...
the arthas with sword animation will lower his head to look the book when he cast spell animation ...
i wont make new animation this time cause i'm lazy and i'm not good at making the cape's animation ...

 

[paladinjst]

30 minutes' work for the basic color ... and haven't drawn the details yet ... maybe few hours when i want to do this ~~ sorry i'm a lazy man ~~

 

[SuPa-]

Hey paladinjst, the texture looks like a really promising start! The polycount isn't much of a big deal, but you'd be surprised as to how much detail and performance you can have in a lower poly mesh. It's an art of its own.

As for you, HeroSlayer, please refrain from inserting your "knowledge" about modeling when your only submitted model is a WoW rip. Also, it is ill-advised to uphold a disrespectful tone to those who are much more experienced than you.

 

[Holy Crusader]

Nice texture keep that !

 

[paladinjst]

Hey paladinjst, the texture looks like a really promising start! The polycount isn't much of a big deal, but you'd be surprised as to how much detail and performance you can have in a lower poly mesh. It's an art of its own.

As for you, HeroSlayer, please refrain from inserting your "knowledge" about modeling when your only submitted model is a WoW rip. Also, it is ill-advised to uphold a disrespectful tone to those who are much more experienced than you.

thanx ... i'll try my best to do this work ... i made the UV in only one texture so that to limit the file size . i'll draw the very counts of the details to fit the WC3 style ...

 

[Statharas]

Try using http://translate.google.com/ a bit so that we can understand more than we do now.

Model looks good. Try using as fewer custom textures as possible.

THE FACE IS KILLING ME!

 

[takakenji]

its looking really good

Try using http://translate.google.com/ a bit so that we can understand more than we do now.

Model looks good. Try using as fewer custom textures as possible.

THE FACE IS KILLING ME!

google translate is awful

 

[Statharas]

It's better than nothing.

 

[paladinjst]

About two hours work ... Improved the color saturation to fit the WC3 game and draw more details ...

 

[Ilike]

Awesome the face is a bit *fat* but that's just my option.

 

[PROXY]

He's still too small. Make his chest taller and his legs a bit longer, take a look at arthas, just with a bit taller chest

The texture looks awesome btw.

 

[Ilike]

I almost forgot, he has no neck D:

 

[SexyZwonne]

Try using as fewer custom textures as possible.

That's just wrong -.-

Nice model Keep up the good work!

 

[PROXY]

Try using as fewer custom textures as possible

That's just wrong -.-

Lol wut?

 

[SexyZwonne]

Fewer means less, right? Custom means that you made it yourself, right? So if you don't make your own textures, but change the ones someone else made - that's just not right! )

 

[Holy Crusader]

Nice Texture man! D

 

[D a w n]

Fewer means less, right? Custom means that you made it yourself, right? So if you don't make your own textures, but change the ones someone else made - that's just not right! )

he meant: instead of using 5 custom textures for your model, you better just use 1 for it... to save space

 

[Statharas]

Fewer means less, right? Custom means that you made it yourself, right? So if you don't make your own textures, but change the ones someone else made - that's just not right! )

I don't ever want to get into your mind. How you came up with that, i do not know.

 

[SexyZwonne]

Ooooooooooooooooo, now I get it... Maybe. Someday...

 

[paladinjst]

he meant: instead of using 5 custom textures for your model, you better just use 1 for it... to save space

this model has only one texture ...

 

[paladinjst]

almost done...still need some details...Varian is coming soon...

 

[Deolrin]

It's awesome, but honestly, he looks very underdetailed(texture-wise), and his face looks kind of bad. Also, he still needs a portrait(unless you're making an in-model portrait), he seems to lack pupils and he will certainly benefit from a neck.

 

[D a w n]

he is still a dwarf D:
you might want to take a look at kwaliti's lich king model for proportions.

 

[Deolrin]

I think that the lack of neck and the height of the shoulders is what makes him look weird right now. The addition of a neck, + the lowering of the shoulderpads will fix this.

 

[Ilike]

And give him a neck please.

 

[paladinjst]

thanks u guys and i'll fix it what u had said ...i made him the same sale with proudmoore ... and like derolin said , maybe the neck and shoulder got somthing wrong

{EDIT}
and actually i had made the neck ... but the cape covered it ... maybe i should move the cape's vertex

 

[Deolrin]

No; You should move the head up, a lot.

 

[Crayons]

No; You should move the head up, a lot.

the shoulderpads should be moved down since he was using the admiral's model as a base.

longer neck might elongate the texture.

problem is, Varian had gigantic shoulderpads in WoW so I don't know how you're supposed to keep his proportions looking WoW and WC3 at the same time. especially with those 1300 faces

 

[Holy Crusader]

No joke , I loled at the face xDDDD