Steve Irwin..... Dead

[The Darkness]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/060904/23/10ebv.html

Steve Irwin was a true Aussie. It is a real shame he died, but what a way to go.

*Salute*

 

[Shados]

...true .....aussie? Jesus christ, you've got to be kidding me, I know I'm not going to be mourning him -_-.

 

[ArcticInferno]

What!? That Croc guy died!? SAD...No wonder I don't see him on TV anymore...T_T Let's mourn.
*Salutes, too*

 

[operator]

Sad.... ;(

 

[Shados]

Get over it, hundreds or thousands of people die all around the world every single day in much slower and painful ways than he did and do you care a single bit? Most likely not, someone you have never met has died and you're mourning him and not the thousands of others.

 

[Pyrite]

Unfortunatly for him he's copped a lot of undeserved flack so it's nice to see the media giving him a tribute. And Shado's you must admit he did do a hell of a lot for Australian wildlife. I do understand where you're comming from however, it is infact true that a few hundred, if not thousands, of people die each day. But this was most sudden and unexpected. RIP Steevo, he should be remembered as a great Australian wildlife conservitist

 

[Ralle]

well Shados.. If you find some random guy and tell me his whole story.. I will be sad with him. But you didnt.. I knew Steve Irwin quite well from TV and I loved watching him.. It's so bad that he is dead.. He did so much for nature and for people to understand nature.. I bow for Steve.

 

[brad.dude03]

Indeed, I don't live in australia but I can still appreciate the things he did, his ambitions in life, and how successful he became around the world because of his belief in a good cause. way to go, dude, Sahdos you should be proud to have someone from your country that great and you should be mourning along with a lot of other people.

 

[Pyrite]

either way Shados is right, and it is his opinion, which he's intitled to (dispite what anti-terror laws say). However you cannot deny that Steve was a great Aussie person with a desire to improve the country.

 

[brad.dude03]

Yes, but did te hundreds and thousands of people dying every day do as much for the australian wildlife as Steve Irwin did? Not a chance, n00b.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

yeh steve irwin was a great man. loved all his stuff, throughly enjoyable. sad for this to happen.

 

[brad.dude03]

Yep, and thats wht the Prime minister of Australia is calling him australias greatest ambassador. such a title does not come undeservingly.

 

[operator]

Kind of strange. He has been dealing with the worlds most dangerous animals, and he dies by a fish who is not supouse to be deadly! But anyways. I hope he died happy. I mean, doing what he loved

 

[Healingpoison]

A painful end for a good story.

/salute

 

[Shados]

Kind of strange. He has been dealing with the worlds most dangerous animals, and he dies by a fish who is not supouse to be deadly! But anyways. I hope he died happy. I mean, doing what he loved

Umm, what? A fish that's supposed to be deadly? He got killed from a deadly stingray sting to the heart.

 

[brad.dude03]

Yes, but only like 7 peple (believe that was the figure, correct me here) have been killed by Stingrays in the last 100 years and they are usually friendly enough to people.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

that is true, i heard 7 aswell, but i hear 7 in australia not world wide..

 

[Shados]

That still doesn't make them a fish that isn't deadly.

 

[brad.dude03]

Yes, but typically not deadly towards humans.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

2 people are killed by cats every year, are cats deadly?

 

[Pyrite]

Lol really GST? I would have never guessed...However everything is deadly to a degree Look at some as "harmless" as a flourecent light...Eventually it will give you cancer. A tree could fall on you at any stage (especially gum trees), or water, the most important substance required for life, can drown you.
Point being is that everything can kill you. Steevo was unlucky enought to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. However for those of us who are religious to a degree, it may have simply been his time. Either way, he was a good person.

 

[Shados]

I wonder how many people per year are killed by platypuses? The male's of the species have spurs on their back legs coated with a deadly poison. The amount of people killed by something every year doesn't make it any more or less deadly.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

yeh the thing you have to consider is that people come into contact with cats all the time and once in a while someone treats on one, falls over and smashes their head on a table, or alternatively get knocked out to have the angry cat take revenge on their face...you get the idea...

 

[brad.dude03]

Regardless of everything stated, Steve Irwin was a great man and he should be honoured, and if you don't honour him then at least remain respectful of those who do (not that anyone at the hive hasen't, but from real life examples, not everyone is mourning his loss)

 

[Shados]

Deadly:
extremely poisonous or injurious; producing venom; "venomous snakes"; "a virulent insect bite"



Cats don't fall into that category, stingrays with deadly stings do.

-*meow*

 

[Pyrite]

Brad what's sad now is that people were KILLING stingrays in revenge for the death of Irwin. That is outrageously stupid. If there's one thing Steve cares for it's wildlife, he would not want people to kill animals in cold blood. Shado's stingrays arn't considered deadly. Stingrays don't produce lifethreatening, muscle paralizing, sezuire inducing venom, probably just something that stings a little like most jellyfish (excluding Man-o-War's and the other really bad on in Queensland i forgot its name).

 

[GST_Nemisis]

box jelly fish

 

[Pyrite]

that's the one

 

[Shados]

"Immediate injuries to humans include, but are not limited to: poisoning, punctures, severed arteries and possible death."

On the subject of stingray stings.

-*meow*

 

[Pyrite]

Severed arteries?! As if! Unless the stingray tied a machette to it's tail it can hardly sever artieries...Puncture, yes. Sever, bearly (maybe your capilleries in your figertips...aww didums)

 

[Shados]

Ahhh I see, so then the stinger that managed to pierce through to Steve Irwin's heart couldn't sever arteries? Interesting indeed.

-*meow*

 

[DurotarLord]

Well, if something pokes through your heart i dont think its going to "sever" it persay. its just going to ram a hole through it and make you die!

 

[Pyrite]

Exactly. And why are we talking about the correct term for how someone died? I thought this thread was to honour Steve Irwin, one of the greatest wildlife conservators ever alive.

 

[brad.dude03]

Well its the fact that Shados DOES'NT honour him that keeps the subject up in the air. Shados is discussing why Steve Irwin was an idiot for doing what he did and that he should have known it would have got him killed, while the rest of us are all mourning the loss.

 

[DurotarLord]

it really is a shame man, especially because he was an evolutionist. now theres nothing wrong with believing in evolution (although i dont), but imagine his poor family. they dont believe in an afterlife (at least they dont know anythign about one) so they dont have any hope. the only thing that can bring them comfort is the thought that maybe they will see him again, but they dont know when or where or even if they will. i cant imagine that kind of sorrow. personnally im a Christian so i believe that my loved ones will go to heaven with me (since their Christians to) so i have a hope in death.

 

[Shados]

Well its the fact that Shados DOES'NT honour him that keeps the subject up in the air. Shados is discussing why Steve Irwin was an idiot for doing what he did and that he should have known it would have got him killed, while the rest of us are all mourning the loss.

1. Stop flinging the word honour around, it means so many different things to different people that's it's almost impossible to fully interpret what in hell you mean.

2. Notice that I most certainly did not say anywhere, or even imply that Steve Irwin was an idiot 'for doing what he did'. I think he was a little eccentric but I wouldn't call him an idiot for trying to do the world some good, unlike most of it's population.

3. I also didn't say 'he should have known it would have got him killed', although it wasn't particulairly surprising that someone in his line of work would die from an animal-related injury.

4. Here's a thing to keep in mind: You can't mourn for something unless you personalise it.

So please, don't put words into my mouth -_-.


-*meow*

 

[Pyrite]

Yeah Brad, Shados is right Too bad Malufa doesn't comb through peoples posts anymore and check spelling :\ (off topic). However you can still sympathise for someone even if you don't personalise, but you can't empathise if death of a close family member hasn't happened to you. I believe you can still mourn for something if you don't personalise it...or whatever you said.

 

[brad.dude03]

LOL Pyrite...you tried anyway , but regardless, yeah, Shados has a point. But its the fact that unlike the rest of us you don't seem to find it that great of a loss that Steve Irwin is dead....nor do you seem to find it as sad as any of the rest of us and I was trying to point that out...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shados
...true .....aussie? Jesus christ, you've got to be kidding me, I know I'm not going to be mourning him -_-.



Example 1.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shados
Get over it, hundreds or thousands of people die all around the world every single day in much slower and painful ways than he did and do you care a single bit? Most likely not, someone you have never met has died and you're mourning him and not the thousands of others.


Example 2.....

 

[Shados]

..Yeah? And Pyrite, it really is true that you can't mourn for something unless you personalise it in some way, and this is why post people aren't likely to mourn for the people who died in that massive tidal wave or other incidents like them, although they aren't likely to admit that.

-*meow*

 

[Pyrite]

..Yeah? And Pyrite, it really is true that you can't mourn for something unless you personalise it in some way, and this is why post people aren't likely to mourn for the people who died in that massive tidal wave or other incidents like them, although they aren't likely to admit that.

You can still sympathise. I might need to re-look up "mourn" in the dictionary before i continue to blab any more

 

[brad.dude03]

Well, the only thing I expected from you was to be respectful of the thread of those who are actually mourning. Thats all. Resume your business, admin slapping and all

 

[Pyrite]

lol admin slapping eh?

 

[brad.dude03]

Yes indeed.