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Mine are all .rar zip files. Irritating.
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That's on your computer. WinRAR is terrible software. I don't blame you for hating it.They all open in WinRAR. In that archive there's the map containing the spell.
Even the map section itself has straight out map files.
Edit: They're zip files, but that's beside my point.
[...] in much cases the users solely want to download and instantly use/open the resource. If you do it often, for example spell testing,
it can get a bit annoying to move, unpack, click insider folder (to open map), delete the .zip, just instead of directly starting.
Open the zip file and then double click the map. Windows XP and newer have native zip file support. WinRar might have disabled this...Lol. Rather edit the map file name to include author name than destroy seamlessness. Atm I can't click download and use WE open dialog right away to open the map. Besides this is all implying there isn't browser tab of the spell in bg or there isn't owner name in the map. It's on creator if he forgets such basic practice as including own name in map anyway.
Windows should allow one to seamlessly travers zips to browse and open files. The only reason one has to ever extract zips is when trying to run a program from one as it messes up the file path and write permissions for the program so it will often be unable to find or write data.If you do it often, for example spell testing,
it can get a bit annoying to move, unpack, click insider folder (to open map), delete the .zip, just instead of directly starting.
So do I. I use 7zip all the time as well.I recommend 7zip instead
Cool trick, I associated explorer with .zip and I like the integration, but I don't see .zip files in open dialog. I'd still fiddle with the downloads folder that has 1126 files in it.Open the zip file and then double click the map. Windows XP and newer have native zip file support. WinRar might have disabled this...
Don't be lazy and extract the archive's contents. Are all spells only just a .w3x or are the archives having something else in them as well? If they only contain a Warcraft III map extension then imagine that somebody would have to reupload all spells.Spells should be as map files
This. WinRAR is at fault here. All versions of Windows allow you to open zip files as if they were folders. No need to do much manual extraction.Open the zip file and then double click the map. Windows XP and newer have native zip file support. WinRar might have disabled this...
Save to specified location?Edit: As to clarify, my downloads folder has thousands of files so it's a burden to navigate it.
That simple, huh? Do it and notify the chief.Lol that's just a matter of writing a script for it that transfers the zips to map files.
Actually that can be arranged within the quest log. Also, the description can be on the Hive thread main post as most resources have it.The reason for sending zip files is because you will want the readme file so you can give proper credit.
I don't have the server file system access.That simple, huh? Do it and notify the chief.
Spells should be as map files
I see nothing to be irritated about.Mine are all.rarzip files. Irritating.
So you are dealing with w3x file(s) inside a zip archive. Fine.They all open in WinRAR. In that archive there's the map containing the spell.[...] Edit: They're zip files [...].
You may do it after file extraction, using a new filename which suits your own needs.Lol. Rather edit the map file name to include author name than destroy seamlessness.
Decompress your newly-downloaded archives first.Atm I can't click download and use WE open dialog right away to open the map.
I fail to understand. Can you or someone else please enlighten me?Besides this is all implying there isn't browser tab of the spell in bg or there isn't owner name in the map.
You can not blame a creator for releasing his stuff the way he wants to.It's on creator if he forgets such basic practice as including own name in map anyway.
Get organized. Create subfolders.Edit: As to clarify, my downloads folder has thousands of files so it's a burden to navigate it.
Compressing MPQ files, eg maps, seems kind of pointless [...]
There's something positive to download a .zip, [...]
It also allows to quickly verify the integrity of the downloaded resource. Remember how we were plagued a few months ago, by big DLs stopping for no apparent reason?The reason for sending zip files is because you will want the readme file so you can give proper credit.
Compressing SoftwareIt's a common issue with Winrar that you have to click on the close key since nobody pays for it.
I recommend 7zip instead. Free and no popup begging you to buy it.
WinRAR does not hijack file extensions. When one installs WinRAR, one can decide to associate it with any file format it supports. Associations can be disabled at will from within its Options / Parameters / Integration Tab menu.Windows XP and newer have native zip file support. WinRar might have disabled this...
It is not a trick. It is a feature, first introduced in Windows Millenium for zip files iirc.Cool trick, I associated explorer with .zip and I like the integration, but I don't see .zip files in open dialog.
You can mass-extract archives into any folder, without their directory structure (if any), and delete the extracted archives, all in a single pass.I'd still fiddle with the downloads folder that has 1126 files in it.
I fail to understand what is so funny, about doubleclicking not working on your OS for some reason.Edit: Btw, double click has never worked for me lol.
Fyi, more reading about folder/subfolder non-extraction from archives:Why is there a folder inside a zip? Eg...
Aerial Aid v1.01.zip\Aerial Aid v1.01
It would be more convenient without the nested folder.
Rude...Spells should be as map files
+repDon't be lazy and extract the archive's contents. Are all spells only just a .w3x or are the archives having something else in them as well? If they only contain a Warcraft III map extension then imagine that somebody would have to reupload all spells.
No. That is just a matter of you, deciding to use the software you have previously installed for that purpose, which is to decompress files.Lol that's just a matter of writing a script for it that transfers the zips to map files.
That's on your computer. WinRAR is terrible software. I don't blame you for hating it.
However it will disable native file system support of them. This is because opening them will go through WinRAR instead of through Explorer.WinRAR does not hijack file extensions. When one installs WinRAR, one can decide to associate it with any file format it supports. Associations can be disabled at will from within its Options / Parameters / Integration Tab menu.
Associating WinRAR with zip files does not prevent Windows Search to work at its fullest (= zips will be searched too).
I was asking why there was a folder inside the zip, instead of all the files being in the root. I guess it might be to avoid a name conflict with the readme.txt files but one could achieve the same by giving each a unique name.Fyi, more reading about folder/subfolder non-extraction from archives:
When one decides to use any third party archive manager, one precisely *wants* to use something better than the (barebones imho) Zip Folders feature, which is built-in in Windows since Windows Millenium.However it will disable native file system support of them. This is because opening them will go through WinRAR instead of through Explorer.
I was asking why there was a folder inside the zip, instead of all the files being in the root.[...]
The idea of Zip is to be transparent with regard to operating system usage. This makes it a lot more user friendly to use than any third party program. Honestly I am surprised that Windows Explorer has not had an archive extension API added to it so that third party archive managers can add native file system support for their archive type.When one decides to use any third party archive manager, one precisely *wants* to use something better than the (barebones imho) Zip Folders feature, which is built-in in Windows since Windows Millenium.
It just means one has to not only open the archive, but the folder inside to access the map. This is two steps longer instead of only 1.Having one folder inside an archive is common and sensible safety measure, because one may extract an archive by using 'Extract here' instead of 'Extract to folder'. This is common best practice, used notably by shareware authors.
I again point out, good archive managers can decompress files without the directory structure stored in the archive (if any). Should there be name collisions, a menu appears for any necessary user interaction.
I personally find Zip Folders to be confusing.The idea of Zip is to be transparent with regard to operating system usage. This makes it a lot more user friendly to use than any third party program.
Some time after WinMe was released, an exploitable vulnerability was discovered in Zip Folders; it was then advised to disable / not use them. Of course, MS released a patch as usual but hey, how many non-geek/non-tech users cared about (painfully) patching their home W9x/Me OS? Remember, official Service Packs were only for NT-based OSes...Honestly I am surprised that Windows Explorer has not had an archive extension API added to it so that third party archive managers can add native file system support for their archive type.
Obviously. Now, is that really an issue?It just means one has to not only open the archive, but the folder inside to access the map. This is two steps longer instead of only 1.
In case of name collision, Zip Folders / Explorer will provide less options than a third party archive manager:The extract here feature of the inbuilt zip support will already warn of name collisions when extracting.
Hence why third party software should be able to offer service providers for certain archive formats.Third party software should rely on OS components as little as possible imho.
Seeing how this entire topic is about any extra steps, then yes it is an issue and yes it is relevant.Obviously. Now, is that really an issue?
Not all such options are needed.In case of name collision, Zip Folders / Explorer will provide less options than a third party archive manager:
Third party archive managers have an explorer-like window, which allows one to seamlessly explore his/her HDD contents. They also support more archive formats than Windows Explorer. They allow to launch programs from within an archive (the full program in decompressed in the temp folder, and it is run from here). If files are added/modified while said program is run, then the archive's contents are updated when said program and the third party archive manager are closed (in that order).Hence why third party software should be able to offer service providers for certain archive formats.
It would be amazingly convenient if one could open a WC3 map archive with explorer and browse it like a normal folder. As an example...
I personally see this topic as being about being organized, about using Windows' built-in features, and about using a third party archive manager which is already installed.Seeing how this entire topic is about any extra steps, then yes it is an issue and yes it is relevant.
Depending on the extractor used, it might default to extract a folder of the archive name. Hence there would end up being 2 nested folders before one can get to the map.
Contrary to shell extensions, standard dialog boxes do not adapt to a specific context.Not all such options are needed.
This behavior is by design. WinRAR is a shareware, not a freeware.It's a common issue with Winrar that you have to click on the close key since nobody pays for it.
I recommend 7zip instead. Free and no popup begging you to buy it.
Pyf I kinda get the feeling you just quoted people to have something to post rather than having a useful thing to say..
Time? Zip archives decompress in no time, unless one still uses a PC from the early 1990s.Having templates and spells download as .w3x instead of .zip, would save time and energy. Especially for map moderators.
I'm saying that spells should be as map files, the current operation is an unnecessary burden. If opposing, state clearly why not do the change instead of random quoting.
You could already launch them that way with your third party archive manager too. It has an explorer-like window, btw.So these two changes fixed my problem:
Associate .zip with Windows Explorer:
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Correct NewGen WE shell open command:
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And now I can launch the map file straight from .zip file.
Edit: But spells should still be as map files obv lmao
It only affected some people though and should not have existed as a problem in the first place...Regarding THW, have you already forgotten how we were plagued a few months ago, by big DLs stopping for no apparent reason?
Well, I was one of those people. And this serious issue lasted for *far* too long.It only affected some people though and should not have existed as a problem in the first place...
...or versus because you should.Pyf, I've been using computers too since 1990's. But there's a difference between using something because you need to versus because you can.
Like, why should the average user have to care about it [...]