Site Resourcess?

[Jaakko]

Where are all the resourcess from wc3search?

 

[operator]

They are waiting for approval

 

[darkspear]

is that a joke?

well, at least I hope you're filtering out most of the useless creep...who on earth needs Super Mario and Coopa Troopa models?

 

[Mechanical Man]

Well, there are some RPGs using them

 

[Ralle]

you can get the resources at wc3search.. look at the old news.

 

[operator]

If they're gonna filter out all of the crap, they will never get done : p

 

[Mechanical Man]

Nope. You can access wc3search no more.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

is that a joke?

well, at least I hope you're filtering out most of the useless creep...who on earth needs Super Mario and Coopa Troopa models?

I actually find those some of the better models.

I mean, my God, who needs a damned recolor of a blademaster to blue, or a geomerge of a bloodmage head onto a marine? That's the kind of shit we're talking about, not things that people actually put hard work, time and effort into.

 

[darkspear]

I enjoyed the Nintendo games at the time, and I still enjoy them on a game console - but not in Warcraft!
My point is that with WC3 and TFT Blizzard has left a job partly finished.
The Naga are missing an upgradable main building, next to sth like a blacksmith and a construction building for air units. Apart from their scarce buildings they lack a decent siege unit. Filling these gaps out could make them a proper race. Instead some users blessed with modeling capabilities and time to spend go for cartoon characters and the like
Then there's the demons which could be developed into a proper race. I've seen some very good artwork of a demon dragon, but that's only one single unit type. Developing the demons would require a good deal of additional structures, workers, icons, etc. Dranei could be further developed, the Goblins of course, the High Elves, the Dwarfs. All these things taken together would enormously enrich the current stock of resources and the possibilities to create new campaigns, new mods, new cinematics and new maps. That's what hard work, time and effort should be put in, not in silly comic characters!

 

[Mechanical Man]

About those models you mentioned, they managed to arrive even to resource section of wc3campaigns, so they must be very good.

 

[HappyTauren]

wc3 III is about human, orc, nightelf and undead races, all thoes you mentioned are SIDE races... think about that abit... even nagas and demons "aren't developed properly" in WoW

 

[darkspear]

right, but developing these races further (to a somewhat playable extent) seems more useful to me than developing the simpson/super mario/sponge bob/spiderman/southpark/Al Bundy/etc. family from scratch.
I mean these things are all cool, but somewhat not really fitting in the warcraft universe for anything but little subversions.

and even if sb. creates the most brilliant Krusty Clown model with the best possible animations, textures, file size, etc. I couldn't see much use in it, (clown wars: clowns vs orc?) even though it was approved at wc3campaigns.

Naga e.g. only need a proper finishing touch: 2-3 more buildings, 2-3 more units, 2-3 more heroes, i.e. the heroes are already in the box thanks to jigrael who did a marvellous job with his incursor model, the warqueen and the dreameater. All I can say is "kudos to jigrael!"

 

[Samuraid]

The WC3Sear.ch site has been down since January 12th. index.php has been deleted, although index2.php is still there so parts of the forums are still accessible.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

Hey, I animated that Spongebob thank you very much. And apparently people loved it.

And don't give me this stuff about those kind of models not being useful, have you seen the request section lately? People request crazy things like this all the time, just recently Werewulf made a Bender model for some dude who wanted it.

Why should talented people stunt themselves by only making Warcraft styled things, these can be achieved a lot of the time with decent geomerges. You don't need a scratch model to have another naga hero, just a hero glow and and edit on the skin of a siren, or maybe a few model edits done in Vertex modifier.

And only making Warcraft creatures limits the possibilities of custom maps that one can make.

If I make a full demon race, yes thats great for a demon mod, or a demon map. But that's about it.

If someone makes a few dinosaur models, suddenly the possibility of a prehistoric map comes into play, instead of only using giant thunderlizards tinted different colors.

So, I think really what you're saying, is that you personally would like naga models and demon models, because they would personally benefit you.

And, there are already mods for Dwarves (WotTH) High Elves (RotHE) Demons (PoC) and Naga as well I believe. People are making the models you want, they are just keeping them themselves for their own modding projects, till the release of them.

This leaves the other modelers with a predicament. Do I make a model almost exactly the same as this project's, just so that others can use it too? Or do I not waste my time and make something completely different, and just be patient till the release of this mod?

Sorry for the long post and the rambling, but this is my feeling on the subject matter, which of course means that "cartoony" models will be accepted, if they are quality. And just because something is Warcraft-ish, but is poorly presented, doesn't mean it will bne approved.

 

[Rui]

Slow down. Not everyone is going to make Demon, naga, or High Elf campaigns. I have to agree with one thing; people are spending too much time on Starcraft crap lately. This increases the possibilities of making starcraft-related maps but also decreases the number of good and different models you can have on another maps.
So, that's about it, we have to set the balance, not too much for one side and not too much for another.

As for the resources of wc3search, if you are to remove crappy stuff out of there, 75% of the maps will be gone, I'm telling you. That Maps section looked horrible.

 

[Black_Lightning]

I agree completely.


EDIT: Z0MFG D00D SAM3 TIME POST FTW !!!!1!!!!!111!!!!111!1ONELL0L!!!!11

So, I agree completely with both posts above me. Ass loads of non-Diablo related Blizzard based models that are of half-assed, shitty quality are far worse than a few rl good Diablo related (that WORK) or non Blizzard game models, and, I'd like to see some Diablo related models (that actually WORK).

 

[Mechanical Man]

What starcraft crap are you talking about, Rui?

 

[darkspear]

so why re-approve the ressources then? By the sheer mass of it, it's gonna take forever.
As for your fun stuff, beware : one day, I'm gonna make the all-included RPG, where your space orc character can fight coopa troopa, ally with Sponge Bob or trade items with Homer Simpson before saving the South Park kids from Demon Lord Archimonde. Part II you'll have to travel in the future with the time machine stolen from the Dranei tribe, so you're faced to fight Starwars Stalkers with your siege tank, take over X fighters to combat Doom Demons, rescue Bbender from the Dinosaurs and stir up a revolution on the Commander Keen planet. Kirby will be End Boss.

 

[Wolverabid]

Well. Like Samuraid, I noticed that the wc3sear resources went missing the other day. The .php's and their accompanying goodies seem to have been deleted by someone with the authority to do so. One might wildly speculate as to why, but the fact remains: if those resources have disappeared forever it will be a low blow to the entire WCIII community.

Yes, some were of questionable quality, especially some of the maps, but the pure volume of icons, models, spells and other resources was unmatched by any other site.

We can only hope that if those in authority over there never reestablish or maintain the site, all the resources themselves have been peserved for posterity by Ralle and, in time, will be accessible for download by visitors of The Hive.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Those precious resources ... all ... gone!!!

 

[Black_Lightning]

Yeah, wc3sear.ch being totally deleted killed any chance most of my post CoTM D-Day projects had at ever being completed. May she rest in peace... Now about those Diablo models, I'd like a Paladin and a Necromancer in particular.

 

[darkspear]

Well. Like Samuraid, I noticed that the wc3sear resources went missing the other day. The .php's and their accompanying goodies seem to have been deleted by someone with the authority to do so. One might wildly speculate as to why, but the fact remains: if those resources have disappeared forever it will be a low blow to the entire WCIII community.

It will be a blow - it's like nuking a developed civilization: thousands of hours of work just gone; and I'm still praying that sooner or later (sooner is better of course) they'll be back, no matter if the 'questionable' ressources are filtered out or not, as long as quality artwork prevails as well. I found the buffs & effects section particularly interesting; one thing that might be possible if all things fail, is to 1) make sure the technical requirements (sufficient space with enough speed) are met, to 2) ask all uploaders to check out their hard drives and re-upload a selection of the best of their work

 

[Rui]

What starcraft crap are you talking about, Rui?

I'm talking about countless space models that were uploaded in the last months. Perhaps they were good, but I don't like Starcraft or space wars, so I always put these kind of models, icons and maps apart (No I didn't de-approve maps just because this was the theme).

I even stopped looking at the "New Models Since Your Last Visit" because I knew I would find another page full of starcraft stuff, three or four crappy models and maybe a good one somewhere.

 

[Kimbo]

Actually i think they were stargate, the dam models didnt even have death or walk anims, or even any anims at all.

 

[Jaakko]

the fact remains: if those resources have disappeared forever it will be a low blow to the entire WCIII community.

Yes, some were of questionable quality, especially some of the maps, but the pure volume of icons, models, spells and other resources was unmatched by any other site.

We can only hope that if those in authority over there never reestablish or maintain the site, all the resources themselves have been peserved for posterity by Ralle and, in time, will be accessible for download by visitors of The Hive.

I completly agree with you, i don't care too much about the maps, but the models and icons were something really useful. (At least most of them)

 

[darkspear]

duh, models with incomplete animations, that's a lot worse than models of no particular use (from a subjective POV, of course)
Shouldn't there be sth like minimum requirements, I mean the minimum is that it all works even on another persons PC, that models unless for use as statue come with necessary animations, and that the model is uploaded with an image.
Btw.: why come most of the models already on this page (page 2-5) without preview image?

 

[Deleted member 126647]

Now about those Diablo models, I'd like a Paladin and a Necromancer in particular.

Take it to the request section, not here.

 

[Fire_Onyx]

Yea i need fuking models for my resident evil map and all wc3sear.ch ressources are GONE and that really PISS ME OFF cause no one do the requests usually...

 

[Kimbo]

Stop complaining, ralle is doing hes best and dont be selfish..

PEOPLE dont NEED or HAVE to do requests.

Some people NEED to learn.

 

[Fire_Onyx]

You know whats gay in all that?I decide to start a map and all the ressources are gone...,you could have left wc3sear.ch open at least for resources while it gets transferred...

I'm gonna try to do example maps to fill that part up...

 

[Wolverabid]

Everyone concerned about those resources should take another look...life is good.

 

[Kimbo]

ARE YOU AN IDIOT? just frickin check wc3sear and stop being selfish and ungrateful. RALLE IS SAVING THE RESOURCES NOT FRICKING DESTROYING THEM.

 

[brad.dude03]

Yes you people are really fucking ignorant. If it wasen't for Ralle, everything you know to be WC3Sear would be down the fucking drain. And I say good riddance, but of course that is a point of view and not a fact. Ralle is SAVING all of your shitty resources with the sacrifice that in order to save the QUALITY resources we also have to save all of the shit, so stop your god damned complaining and give the guy some time to get it sorted out. WC3Sear was circling the drain when Ralle stepped in. It was far past its hosting limit and was going to be shut down any day. If Ralle haden't volunteered to help fix things, well you'd all be just shit out of luck, now wouldn't you?

Fixing things takes time. LEARN TO DEAL.

 

[HappyTauren]

LOL I WANT TO SEE YOU AS PHP MASTER!!! THAT AIN'T EASY THING TO DO AND SERVER MERGE TAKES TIME, RALLE IS MOVING FEW GIGABITES OF MODELS (including junk)

 

[Fire_Onyx]

HEY HEY HEY WHOA,i know ralle is saving the resources,i thanks him for that,but the resources aren't available anymore...

 

[HappyTauren]

Could You Just Stfu About Resources For Awhile? Ralle Is Dying To Make Models Avalabile And You Cant Even Wait!!! Did You Read Brad's Post?! No, Becouse You Didn't Read News Either! Do You Think No1 Else Needs Them!? I Need Some Of Them For Sure, But I Dont Spam Everywhere About How I'm Want Them Back!!!

 

[Kimbo]

I dont think he read anyones post, i told him to check sear, he obviously hasnt and is still complaining.

 

[Hadhafang]

hmm

i think that most people stopped using wc3sear because of the bandwith. not being able to dl new mods.

but u can still access wc3sear.ch lol, people will slowly start to upload stuff. i hope

 

[darkspear]

I agree. wc3sear had a dramatic bandwith prob. No matter how fast my own connection, it took MINUTES to even get the pix of models shown.

anyway, brad.dude, the language you're using here is kinda rude, despite the same questions being posted day for day not really. We're all more than grateful that Ralle does the dogwork saving the preciousss ressource stuff. It's just that the less informed the more concerned people happen to be.

 

[Rui]

It's impossible not to use a little 'fucking' when it comes to ignorance.

Oh and Onyx, don't be selfish, Ralle does his best, and everyone is still waiting for the wc3search resources aswell. Have patience, as everyone else is having.

 

[Shados]

It's just that the less informed the more concerned people happen to be.

Yeah, and they should take the time to bloody inform themselves before posting, it's basic, basic forum courtesy. Goes hand-in-hand with using the search function.

-*meow*

 

[brad.dude03]

Goes hand-in-hand with using the search function.

You realize 150% of these noobs couldn't use the search function to save their lives right?

 

[Jaakko]

There is one more thing. If some good models/icons would get lost, I would not know anynore what people to credit in my campaign.

 

[GoldenRam]

Hey, I am a bit new here, but why is Warcraft sear.ch having so much trouble all of a sudden? Hrrm... Is it relocating here at the Hive?

 

[brad.dude03]

Hey, I am a bit new here, but why is Warcraft sear.ch having so much trouble all of a sudden? Hrrm... Is it relocating here at the Hive?

SIGH! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE read the news next time. Please? Come on, man. Since you probably wont, here's the scoop one last freaking time: Wc3Sear.ch has been on the steady decline for ages now already. It was WAY over its limits for bandwidth and storage, and it was going to be shut down because Darky didn't give a damn. Thanks to Ralle (the leader of the Hive Workshop) Wc3Sear has been integrated with and is now powered by the much more awesome Hive Workshop.

 

[GoldenRam]

I try to keep up as best as I can, but I am without internet at home, so I only get to check in on things periodically. I am visiting the library more regularily now, and I am aware it exceeded its storage space. I should have phrased it like this: How did they let that site with such a huge following fall into such disrepair?

 

[Jaakko]

I try to keep up as best as I can, but I am without internet at home, so I only get to check in on things periodically. I am visiting the library more regularily now, and I am aware it exceeded its storage space. I should have phrased it like this: How did they let that site with such a huge following fall into such disrepair?

I have no idea. That's what I would like to hear too.

 

[brad.dude03]

Like I said, Darky didn't give a damn. The site would be really crappy if it abided by its bandwidth and storage capacities, it hardly had any of both, and Darky didn't care, he let the place fall apart, and Ralle picked it back up again.

 

[Wolverabid]

brad.dude03 pretty much put it in a nutshell, if you want to review the entire detailed tale of tears just go over there and read the news and site discussion forums.

Jaakko: To remember resource credits either save the entire web page you downloaded it from (if you have plenty of storage space) or copy and paste a portion of it as a text file in your containing folder. This is also a handy method to confirm file paths.

 

[Fire_Onyx]

I know ralle is doing his best,thats a point and i thank him,i was going to get resources on wc3sear.ch when pop.redirected here,thats like wtf the fuck ?You understand what i say?