Shooters battlefield DM v4.0

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14:35, 28th Jun 2010
ap0calypse: Rejected

 

[Critacious]

Please improve description so we know what the map is about.

 

[-Kobas-]

Shooters battlefield DM v4.0
Created by Andre ; Uploaded by: Andrep7410
Map size: 1481.99 KB

1st - How you used Sound Editor

1st - Map description
2nd - Ingame description / Custom GI
3th - Terrain
4th - Triggers
5th - Memory Leaks
6th - How you used Import Manager
7th - How you used Object Editor
8th - Gameplay

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Well I checked your map and I must say that I am a little disappointed!
Idea:
Well I played few maps and I must say all was same, I didn't find nothing unique in this one, but if you continue to upgrade and improve your map pls make something unique!
Map description:
Maybe you think that map description here on THW isn't important but thrust me, if you use 20 words to describe your map no one will want to play it, why, because we don't know anything about your map!
Add screenshots, write credit list, change log, map features, colorize description, add boxes etc etc...
Here check this one:
The importance of a Description [09 May 2009 17:41]ap0calypse
and BB code list!
Ingame description / Custom GI:
No Quest Log on 1st place, that means no credits, no command list, we can see anything about your map!
No single GI (Game Interface) change, grrrr
Heroes descriptions are very poor!
Hero abilities description is horrible!
This tutorial is new but really awesome, I really like it and I am sure you will learn a lot from it!
Polishing Your Game [24 May 2010 15:55]N1ghthawk
Terrain:
Terrain is simple and looks great for this kind of game, well at least at first look!
Whole map is covered with only few tiles, you placed some doodads (like randomly -.-) so it looks even worse...
But don't worry I have something for ya:

Click and find out

Beginners F.A.Q To Terraining [22 May 2009 21:18]iPeez
Creating a Dungeon Entrance [07 Oct 2009 14:07]X-OMG-X
Creating Rivers with Rolling Shores [31 Dec 2006 21:56]1337D00D
Editing Cliff Skins [02 Jan 2009 20:17]Argus
How to Make Easy Waterfalls [10 Nov 2009 08:38]RoboHippo
How to make good looking lava in WE [03 Feb 2010 13:50]Piwlady
How to remove Blight's green clouds [26 Oct 2009 04:11]Stathisdjs
iPeez's Complete Terraing Tutorial v1.0 [18 Jan 2009 18:38]iPeez
Natural Environments [30 Aug 2008 21:42]~Void~
Pathing - Everything about it [01 Jan 2010 18:33]Dr. Boom
Playable Terrain: Islands [06 Sep 2008 08:41]Belgarath
Playable Terrain: Overgrown Forests [03 May 2008 01:27]Belgarath
Polishing Your Game [25 May 2010 00:55]N1ghthawk
Terrain Overgoes - a small guide [28 Sep 2009 04:33]Belgarath
Terrain: Advanced Lighting [13 Feb 2008 05:41]~Void~
Terrain: Forest Cliffs [06 May 2007 11:48]Jattenalle
Terraining - Path by the Sea [16 Feb 2008 02:23]Belgarath
Terraining Tut. - Forests [04 Dec 2006 03:52]HernanG
The Ultimate Beginners Terrain Tutorial [12 Jun 2007 13:31]HermanTheGibbon
Various Terraining Tips! [17 Sep 2009 21:59]Revolve

Well I attached links to few tut here on THW and to their Authors!
Some are easy some are for advanced users!

Some have little to do with terrain some much more!
Pls at least scroll down each one just to check pictures!

If you really want to learn how to terrain, check also other sites like
http://world-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/
http://www.wc3c.net/
and others...

open maps, check terrain contest etc etc, check terrain board and people showcases, explore user albums, search Hive... You can always ask some user for help, join to Chat room sometimes (http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/apps.php?p=gochat)

2 Much work to do right...

Triggers:
Grrr you triggers are ok, I mean they do job, but they can be done in different way to reduce their size,
here is an example:

• player leave Copy
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) types a chat message containing -player3leave as An exact match
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Unit - Make Unit Invulnerable
    • Unit - Move Unit instantly to (Center of Region 005 <gen>)
    • Unit - Change ownership of Unit to Neutral Passive and Change color
    • Game - Display to (All players) the text: Rifleman of the Pla...
    • Unit - Make Unit Invulnerable
    • Unit - Move Unit instantly to (Center of Region 005 <gen>)
    • Unit - Change ownership of Unit to Neutral Passive and Change color

In this trigger only one action works: Game - Display to (All players) the text: Rifleman of the Pla...

• spawn run
  • Events
    • Time - Elapsed game time is 45.00 seconds
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Item - Create Speed at (Random point in Region 003 <gen>)

Instead of creating new trigger that will 15 sec after this one create different item some were on map you can use loop event!
Time - Every (Random real number between 45.00 and 60.00) seconds of game time
In this one I even used random number so it will look even better!
Define all items with variables (array) first in different trigger (Initialization will do) and then use Random integer number between 1 and 10 [last rune item that you defined]
This trigger create leak also, and that is bad because it will slowly full your PC memory and game will start to lag after some time, you will find all about leaks in links below (DON'T be lazy check it)
Also if I can say create special effect at point where is rune created or show hint message (maybe both) etc etc...
Well I don't have time to explain all bad triggers right now, be free to post threads or ask help if you don't know how to fix by yourself!
Here are some tutorials and links again so check if you have time:

Click again

2D Array Tutorial [10 Aug 2008 11:13]TriggerHappy
A Collection of GUI Systems > Basic to Advanced (Incomplete) [27 Aug 2008 19:36]Kwah
Advanced votekick tutorial just 6 triggers needed [06 Jan 2008 02:46]marcotjuhhhh
Aquiring Abilities with Items [09 Dec 2007 11:29]PiCkstix
Array Tutorial [13 May 2005 15:10]Draqz
Arrow Key Movement / Camera System [14 Nov 2007 22:32]OneEight7even
Basic Memory Leaks [03 Jan 2006 07:48]Ralle
Basic Triggering [03 Jan 2006 07:11]Ralle
Basics of a Cinematic [28 Aug 2006 09:02]Archian
Basics of a Dialog [06 Mar 2007 17:09]Orc_Tamer
Basics of Trigger Enhancing Spells [26 Nov 2006 07:53]Daelin
Basics of Triggers [03 Apr 2007 14:40]Archian
Buying abilitys [08 Aug 2007 14:55]Parrothead
Chapter 1 - Static shapes (GUI) [26 Nov 2006 08:16]Daelin
Chapter 2 - Dynamic Effects (GUI) [26 Nov 2006 08:05]Daelin
Coloured Names [26 Dec 2009 23:20]sPy
Complete and Concise GUI Tutorial [27 Dec 2008 16:56]Zypher
Complete GUI Trigger Index/List [20 Oct 2006 09:17]Knights
Create a sucessfull timer with window (reuploaded) [07 Sep 2008 09:05]Cheezeman
Create precise timing cinematic using real variable [22 Apr 2009 21:54]Septimus
Creating a First Person Camera [06 Aug 2008 06:58]Magamdy
Creating a Hero Pick System: The Easier Way. [30 Dec 2007 11:51]Shantari
Creating a Votekick System [07 Nov 2007 21:34]1)ark_NiTe
Creating Easy Multi-User Quests [15 Aug 2007 10:02]The_Big_S
Creating Enterable/Exitable Houses [25 Feb 2008 19:49]Tekal
Creating some basic abilities [22 Apr 2007 04:45]paskovich
Creep Respawn (GUI) [13 Apr 2008 16:05]SkriK
Difficulty System - The Easy Way [05 Jun 2009 16:39]hunalexnl
Dynamic Values Storage [25 Mar 2009 12:28]Kingz
Essentials Tutorial [22 Aug 2009 06:25]Deuterium
Exploration of Vertex Coloring [20 Jan 2007 11:45]chovynz
Flexible Arrow Key Movement System [23 Apr 2010 16:03]RazorbladeRay
Full Menus and Buttons Toturial [15 Apr 2008 05:57]xXCRIMINALXx
Game Caches [18 Mar 2006 06:18]Bob27
Gamespeed Keys [04 Oct 2007 14:22]Saitek009
GUI - Hero Click-Selection (Advanced) [04 Oct 2007 13:27]Fulla
Hashtables and MUI [26 Jun 2009 11:54]wyrmlord
Hero Defense Template [25 Jan 2008 23:02]vnakira
Hero Selection Systems [20 Aug 2007 06:33]Eleandor
Hero Selection Systems [23 Mar 2007 15:03]Tonks
How to begin in triggering, for the complete noob [24 Jan 2009 12:45]hawk_767
How to make a Chain spell (GUI Version) [13 Aug 2006 12:09]Daelin
How to make a Find that Person Quest. [11 Apr 2008 11:27]Dark Hunter1357
How to Make Buildable Gates [20 Apr 2008 16:48]Mashintao
How To Make Item Recipes [16 May 2007 09:29]Tooolbox
How to make Professions [14 Sep 2008 06:59]Airandius
How to make slow motion special effects [28 Nov 2007 15:27]nathanman
How to trigger Auto-cast (Arrow) Abilities [26 Apr 2010 14:05]Stonebludgeon
IDS (Infinite Number of Item Classes) [29 Mar 2010 06:59]-Kobas-
Introduction To Trigger-Enhancing Spells [27 Jul 2004 13:32]whitenights
Item-drop-system [06 Mar 2009 11:05]SlayerII
Leaderboards [10 Aug 2006 06:18]Archian
Lumber/Food Clock [25 Oct 2009 06:44]Arowanna92
Making a full TD [Reviewed: Ralle] [27 Jun 2008 12:51]Ostaph13
Making a Grenade Type Spell [14 Jul 2008 20:07]PrisonLove
Making a Maze [11 Feb 2009 11:40]DarkLordX
Making an Open Rpg [12 Jan 2006 01:43]Ralle
Making any Spell Autocasting [15 Mar 2006 13:49]Ralle
Making Elevators [25 Nov 2008 06:58]cool_is_i
Multi-Instancible GUI Spell Making [26 May 2007 11:56]wyrmlord
Multiboard Counter [30 Dec 2008 09:30]Squiggy
Multiboards [11 Apr 2006 04:41]Bob27
Multiple Creep Spawn System [12 Apr 2007 07:05]DoOs_101
Off-site Tutorials [14 Sep 2009 12:52]Pyritie
Point To Point Unit System [25 Jan 2009 22:59]rover2341
PSN Hero Selection [23 Nov 2007 06:52]Kieve
Quests [22 Feb 2006 23:15]Bob27
RDZ's Incredible Item Stacking System of Doom [05 Oct 2005 12:28]Rao Dao Zao
Reviving Heroes at a Changeable Region [23 Mar 2010 00:35]dOT145
Save/Load Compression [28 Aug 2008 08:02]Hoernchen
Simple Triggered Hero Artificial Intelligence in GUI [02 May 2007 03:38]DenZel94
Spells - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) [25 Jul 2004 13:27]The_Raven
Spells Importing Tutorial [26 Nov 2006 07:58]Daelin
Stacking Items [21 Dec 2007 11:36]DigitalDemon
Starting with GUI [21 Mar 2008 06:51]Lord_of_sausage
TaaZ's Item System [26 Jul 2005 21:08]TaaZ
The mysteries of the Spellbook [27 Apr 2007 13:36]Diablo-dk
Torch System [25 Jan 2009 15:27]Belgarath
Variables [03 Jan 2006 08:37]Ralle
[GUI] Efficient Arrays - Multiinstanceabilty for Timers, Custom Values, and more [27 Aug 2008 12:04]PurplePoot
[Reviewed: BlinkBoy] Understanding triggers and creating them. [20 Aug 2008 15:52]Zypher

I want to say that I posted only GUI tutorials that can be found on THW you can also visit many other sites like wc3c or the helper net etc etc...
Why GUI, well I know Jass a little, I can understand but I can't explain it, so I posted only stuff that I can help you with!
Also if someone see that some new tutorials are uploaded or maybe deleted tell me so I can fix list, thanks!

Memory Leaks:
I find some memory leaks in your triggers, pls check links above you will understand what they are if you don't already know...

• elf p1
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit enters Region 002 <gen>
  • Conditions
    • (Unit-type of (Triggering unit)) Equal to High Elf (Male)
    • (Owner of (Triggering unit)) Equal to Player 1 (Red)
  • Actions
    • Set elf1 = (Triggering unit)
    • Unit - Order elf1 to Move To (Position of mine9)
    • Unit - Order elf1 to Move To (Position of mine10)
    • Unit - Order elf1 to Move To (Position of mine11)
    • Unit - Order elf1 to Move To (Position of mine12)
    • Unit - Order elf1 to Move To (Position of mine13)
    • Unit - Order elf1 to Move To (Position of mine14)
    • Unit - Order elf1 to Move To (Position of mine15)
    • Unit - Order elf1 to Move To (Position of mine16)
    • Unit - Order elf1 to Move To (Position of mine2)
    • Unit - Order elf1 to Move To (Position of mine4)
    • Unit - Order elf1 to Move To (Position of mine6)
    • Unit - Order elf1 to Move To (Position of mine8)
• ......................................
• Example for this trigger
• ......................................

How you used Import Manager:
I can see map preview image imported, it is ok if you want to save space but at least make custom loading screen...
But why you use Textures\RiflemanElite.blp texture is really awesome but that is 2 much space (593 KB), your map is new, no one will host map that is above 2 MB you know why!
How you used Object Editor:
You just replaced abilities, units etc etc
It is really hard to find what you want...
This one is small problem but pro map maker should be well organized!
How you used Sound Editor:
Oh you used some sounds and music, gj!
Gameplay:
I don't like gameplay at all, only few new heroes with really random spells/abilities!
Attack looks really bad, camera if changed with mouse scroll can't be reset to default again!
No game modes
Leaderboard instead of multiboard!
Hero can jump on cliff and die -.-
Hero selection system is really bad, at least select peasant for each player!

And for the end my last words:
The Hive includes many talented Warcraft III modders of all skill levels among its users. New members (especially friendly ones) are always welcome. Take a look around and enjoy your stay, may it be long and productive!

Some good places to start include:

• The Important Site Rules
• Your User Control Panel
• Warcraft III Tutorials
• Cool Avatars
• Search The Hive
• Community Members
• The Hive Workshop Staff
• THW Chat

Searching the site using the above link always helps, you can learn a lot that way: just reading and learning is usually the best place to start, especially if one feels overwhelmed.

Likewise, the tutorials can really teach ALL of us a thing or two.
The chat room is cool: lots of people can answer questions there.

A few other tips that might help too:
-Always search first! Did I already mention THAT?
-When creating a new thread, make the title VERY specific: so the site's search engine (and we users) can easily understand just what the thread contains.
-Post your new threads in the proper forum: read the descriptions of each one so that you know what to post there.
-If all else fails, just send me a private message! I'll try to do whatever I can to help.

For new users:
If map isn't finished jet, use Map Development forum for that! You can make thread there upload your map so people can tell you what they think just like here! Also for any help with triggers or how to clean memory leaks post triggers and create threads here Triggers & Scripts! Btw if you need any help with WE we have World Editor Help Zone here on THW! And at the end if you need any resource from icons to loading screens check this out Requests!

I hope that my comment helps even a little so you can improve your map, if you want to know more, or just simple ask for something else I will try to help for sure!

Final mark: