[General] Random Seed Stuck in Reforged

[TimeForAChange]

"Use fixed random seed" no longer has any effect on my map. I have seen a number of people complain about the same thing starting from the Reforged beta but I can't tell if there is any fix. Most of the complaints aren't recent.

Is there a fix? Is there a workaround?

 

[Planetary]

I'd see if this works: [Snippet] Random Seed

 

[TimeForAChange]

Thanks, although that is in vjass and my map is now using lua

 

[Planetary]

Should be able to mimic the code with math.randomseed( generatedIntHere ). I know it doesn't work with a fixed integer but it might work with the timer method.

edit: I tried it myself, something seems to be hardcoded to overwrite the seed that I can't figure out. When you first disable "fixed random seed" it actually does work. But it doesn't continue working if the map is loaded up or if you toggle it off and on again. Another Deforged bug.

 

[Macadamia]

Personally, I use this in Lua : math.randomseed(os.time())

The OS time stamp can be a good randomizer

 

[Planetary]

Personally, I use this in Lua : math.randomseed(os.time())

The OS time stamp can be a good randomizer

Careful with that one, it causes desyncs (the seed will be different because os.time() is different between machines).

 

[Macadamia]

Mmmm, yes I suddenly realize that :/

 

[TimeForAChange]

I suppose that will work for testing purposes though

 

[Planetary]

redacted

Hm. I think I discovered the source of the fixed random seed bug (or Deforged feature) in Lua maps. Maybe it was already known by someone, but it's new to me. Still verifying if this is a real discovery.

The seed gets reset to fixed after every test map run (I think the fixed seed code runs on client closure). If you open up preferences, toggle it on and off, then click Okay and run test map, the seed is properly unfixed and pseudo random again [edit] as long as the randomseed is fixed to a timer.

Essentially, it has to be "re-toggled" every run of test map.

edit: as a side note, I do this in conjunction with a new math.randomseed()

edit 2: take with grain of salt, testing some things to verify

edit 3: was false hope on the initial randomseed, think I got a false positive originally

I currently use math.randomseed( GetTimeOfDay()*10000000*bj_PI ) (arbitrary numbers) which acts pseudo-randomly as long as player agency is required (e.g. a chat command). Anything started from map init that uses time is stuck to the fixed seed output (which makes sense as a fixed seed setting). Grrrr!

 

[TimeForAChange]

deforged