Pretzels

[deepstrasz]

Their icon seems to be inspired by an experience by them of magical gut syndrome.

 

[stan0033]

are they salty?

 

[Kyrbi0]

Huh, an icon. Man I love pretzels.

 

[DREADMAN]

are they salty?

Do you know sugar pretzels?

 

[Panda]

A nice treat, Could be useful to some.

 

[tillinghast]

Panda decided to change the rating to "recommended" instead of telling me how to improve the icon to get that "recommended" rating naturally

Icons must have at least 50% freehand to be moderated as Recommended, but it is not guaranteed based on quality.

the highlighted part was added to the rules after my complaint
i guess they themselves just can't explain what the quality is, but i'm somehow supposed to make an icon of that quality

 

[Kyrbi0]

What was it before?

 

[Panda]

What was it before?

Not sure why this has begone a discussion but,
If this has to do with it being "Useful" and not "Recommended" then take it up with @Footman16 because yes this is freehand i understand but everything that has 50% or more freehand involved does not accrue a "Recommended" roll. Being, a simple icon that does not really seem useful to the eye could just be set to useful so im not really sure why he is complaining to me about it and im not going to sit here going back and forth about it.

If you want a recommended rating or more, then put more effort and detail towards the pretzel or whatever it is and ill do rate it on that..

 

[tillinghast]

then put more effort and detail

this is vague and nondescript
can you put into words what makes a good icon, mr. icon reviewer?
when you were swamped with icon backlog, you had no time to give me any feedback beyond

[~] Everything seems fine and stands out good, Very unique and to the point.

in the other icon thread and

A nice treat, Could be useful to some.

here, but you had time to tell @stan0033 to brighten and zoom in his ai icons
now when you have time, all you can give is "put more effort and detail"
really fucking cool

 

[Panda]

Panda is just trying to be nice, do his job and accommodate you, jeez.

I appreciate it not really sure why we cant just be understanding. Since im not really trying to cause anything at all. If you have disagreements just PM @Footman16 and he will get in contact with me..simple.

 

[Footman16]

this is vague and nondescript
can you put into words what makes a good icon, mr. icon reviewer?

The short answer here is no, art is subjective. When we say it needs more quality and detail that's hard to describe without just showing or making ourselves but the that defeats the purpose. Sometimes it's easy to give specific advice or feedback, other times its just not. Without making more vague statements like the "pretzels need to look better" the actual artistic specifics are something that need to be self-learned and evolve over time.

The best alternative is to look at other icons or art and to learn from them what defines quality.

If you want a philosophical book on the subject I can recommend "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" by Robert M Pirsig which dives into the definition and concept of "quality".

the highlighted part was added to the rules after my complaint
i guess they themselves just can't explain what the quality is, but i'm somehow supposed to make an icon of that quality

Yeah you're right we realised that rule made it seem like 50% freehand guaranteed recommended rating which isn't the case. But you're also right that yes we can't explain subjective criteria to you by their very nature.