Passive Abilitiess that Trigger Casting an Ability?

[madmuffin]

Are there any abilities that happen when a unit attacks such as Pillage, Burning Oil, and Pulverize that also trigger the event Unit Begins casting, or finishes casting, or anything like that?

And NOT spells that have auto-cast on them such as Searing Arrows or Cripple, this is not the same thing because they can be turned off.

 

[ikillforeyou]

Are you going to use this as a damage detection system? and no, there's no passive spell that will do that.

 

[madmuffin]

Dang, and no its not for a damage detection system, I have been trying to make a catapult that misses for like forever now but because there is no 'Event - A Unit Attacks' it is obscenely difficult to get the effect I want. 'A unit is attacked' doesn't work because it is attacking ground, not a unit. Tried many different combinations of triggers and dummies and variables and all sorts of things with no luck yet.

 

[Justify]

Why should "A UNIT is attacked" not being "hitting" a unit? It is, not the ground order. It happens in the moment a unit starts the animation of its attack.

 

[madmuffin]

If you do 'Attack ground' a unit is never being attacked, so it never returns a unit is attacked event.

 

[Justify]

For sure, if a unit isn't attacked the event doesn't work. In the moment after "attack ground" when the unit is found, the event fires. Whats your problem with this? oO

 

[madmuffin]

Actually as far as I can tell getting hit by an attack ground doesn't fire the A unit is attacked unless the unit is explicitly targeted. This is all part of a much more complex trigger that I wish I could just set to event on attack because that would make my life so much easier then trying to force rig something into place that uses available events. I go into it in a lot more detail in this other thread:Other thread

 

[JeffreyQ]

Use orb of lightning (New), and change its effect to other active abilities. (Eg: Frost Nova).
With this, you can check with "a unit starts the effect of an ability" and "ability being cast = Frost nova" and do your stuff.

Also, don't use begin casting an ability. It has a number of issues.

 

[Pharaoh_]

madmuffin, those statements of your are opinions only or practised trials? Because Attack Ground is actually a hardcoded ability which picks every unit in range and attacks it. Either way, A unit is attacked is an event I suggest not to follow. Using a damage detection system will work (and I have tested it in the past):

• Trigger1
• Events
  • Map Initialization
• Conditions
• Actions
  • Custom script: set bj_wantDestroyGroup = true
• Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units in (Playable map area)) and do (Actions)
  • Loop - Actions
    • Trigger - Add to Trigger3 <gen> the event (Unit - (Picked unit) Takes damage)

• Trigger2
• Events
  • Unit - A unit enters (Playable map area)
• Conditions
• Actions
  • Trigger - Add to Trigger3 <gen> the event (Unit - (Triggering unit) Takes damage)

• Trigger3
• Events
• Conditions
  • Or - Conditions
    • (Unit-type of (Damage source)) Equal to Demolisher
    • (Unit-type of (Damage source)) Equal to Meat Wagon
    • (Unit-type of (Damage source)) Equal to Glaive Thrower
• Actions
  • //Actions here