Over the Hills Episode 1

[Moderator]

11:08, 6th Mar 2013
Orcnet: THIS CINEMATIC IS IN TOTAL AWESOMENESS! ALTHOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE A TRAILER OF A BAD-ASS GUN ERA, BUT SINCE THIS IS A FAREWELL OF YOUR BEST RESOURCE, I GRANTED THIS AS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED CINEMATIC

 

[sonofjay]

This is what happened when a skilled terrainer goes to work... a masterpiece.

This is really a promising series if you really plan to continue it. I never watched a cinematic with this kind of design, I don't even if there is other cinematic like this with a theatrical feeling. But the big win here is that the terrains that you displayed are all beautiful and really look realistic and that light engine of yours are just wonderful. I also love the song that you decided to play here, I'm just wondering for if you can tell us the title of that song.

I'm giving this one a 5.

 

[Bernkastel]

I'm just wondering for if you can tell us the title of that song.

Nightwish - Over The Hills And Far Away

 

[tobyfat50]

There will be 3 or 4 episodes this was a old map so I decided to to post it here before I go because it was accumulating dust. Yes you are right about the terrain I put accent on it in this episode in the next ep I will put accent on the scenes more.

 

[HOooDy]

Is it Protected ? If it is Protected can i barrow the Terrain Template I will use it for my Terrain Showcase ?

 

[sonofjay]

Nightwish - Over The Hills And Far Away

Thanks.

There will be 3 or 4 episodes this was a old map so I decided to to post i.t here before I go because to post it here before I go because it was accumulating dust. Yes you are right about the terrain I put accent on it in this episode in the next ep I will put accent on the scenes more.

Looking forward to see the other episodes.

 

[tobyfat50]

The map is unprotected, You can't open it because you need Jass new gen pack and UMSWE http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=90999. The map won't open in usual editor because of the "play animation index" action. Try Model etitor to open the archive!

Important!
Set the lights at high quality otherwise the map will look all black!
Also to see what are the bugs on the map check the video to make comparison!

 

[tobyfat50]

One more thing, I posted the video on my friend's channel, Vics lets play Team. The channel is for let's plays only, the videos are just plain awful because we were getting drunk every time we did them so I don't recommend you watch, Vic got banned here on Hive + my wife says it's weird. If anybody is interested, you can get those out as well but I warned you!!!

 

[Gekigengar]

This is just...

Extremely beautiful ;_;

I DEMAND NEXT CHAPTER

 

[tobyfat50]

The next episode is in progress, it`s half done You'll have to wait. I only work once per week on it so It's going to be posted when It's going to be posted... I don't have time.

 

[DVendetta]

it was a pleasure to work with you too and i like episode 1. i can't wait to for episode 2. Keep it up

 

[tobyfat50]

Progress on episode 2: 72%

 

[tobyfat50]

It looks like I'll be going hard core at work the next 2 months so I won't be able to work on episode 2.

 

[Bugz]

Really beautifull. 5/5 - Classified as one of the best Cinematics out there.

 

[A]mun]

Nice terrain indeed. The music gives it all enough "drive" to keep the viewer entertained. Yeah i enjoyed this one.

 

[tobyfat50]

I am currently coming up with a new way to make better camera transitions and movement. The second episode will blow your brain when it will be finished and I am close to discovering a new shadow rendering technique.

 

[JaysProjex]

I randomly just bumped into this thread, as soon as I started to watch this, it just grabbed my attention right away and after watching it that jaw dropping moment and then you become speechless... happen to me, best cinematic I've seen thus far for a Wc3 map, too many "great" words can be used here and by "everything" I literally mean everything just flows so nicely in this cinematic I don't even think I blinked once until it was finished. I can tell you put alot of work into it I highly recommend this 5/5 (Excellent)

 

[Orcnet]

approved man you should continue this it looks like tri-gun version for warcraft but since your now a family man have a blessing journey to you and your family

 

[Remixer]

Woah, simply great work. The music choice is perfect. Did you make the map before or after selecting music? 5/5 +rep

 

[FireLord001]

Downloading......
Look like awesome
The file was too big but I think I will be like it.

 

[AnonymousPro]

Greatest terrain ever seen... 5!

 

[FireLord001]

I like it...
I like all.
the animations,terraining,models
But the camera was too fast and some of it glitches. try to fix that.
And the file size was too big even it's a 7 minutes cinematic.

 

[AnonymousPro]

I like it...
I like all.
the animations,terraining,models
But the camera was too fast and some of it glitches. try to fix that.
And the file size was too big even it's a 7 minutes cinematic.

I'm sure you have eyes to read his description over bugs.

 

[NourmeusXL]

Is the Prison your model or you download it pls give me the link
About the map its just freakin awasome,beutiful...
But i wonder how did u do the mountains?

 

[TheWhiteWolf]

Hey man, just wanna say this is a masterpiece, and wish you a farewell

 

[Vengeancekael]

Yeah well, deserves 4/5 because of the camera, though if you're making the next episode then you should have learned by then.
(Your description says you've stopped, in a post you're saying you're working on ep.2)
It's a neat cinematic, though Orcnet is getting too excited again with rating maps.

 

[tobyfat50]

Yeah well, deserves 4/5 because of the camera, though if you're making the next episode then you should have learned by then.
(Your description says you've stopped, in a post you're saying you're working on ep.2)
It's a neat cinematic, though Orcnet is getting too excited again with rating maps.

Thank you guys for all the comments. I am still working on ep 2 and you are right but I discovered a new way to make cameras and physics different from jazz. I may post some updates on the cinematic starting next week and some new maps on my maps thread. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/terrain-board-267/tob-s-maps-230243/
Also my friend Vic is coming up with awesome ideas for the next episode and will also help me render the video. He's A master in editing that's why he will comes up with great ideas for ep 2 and 3 and try to give his videos a shot as well if you're interested in shooter horror games. Maybe you will like it, I know the videos are not great in commentary but he is making better videos recently.
I did kind of stop but I mentioned Il make 2 or 3 more episodes, then I quit. Maybe I'll think about that more but my intentions now is to give up on modding.

 

[Lambdadelta]

Brilliant terrain.

 

[millzy]

every time i try to watch this it crashes my WC3 at the loading screen

 

[xgeneralthorx]

I loved the terrain textures, models textures and the light. Very nice cinematic and epic sound.

 

[tobyfat50]

every time i try to watch this it crashes my WC3 at the loading screen

This never happened to me, I tried it on several other computers. Make sure that you have the latest patch If that won't help try something else.
If anybody else has a running problem with the map please say so!

 

[NourmeusXL]

Part 2 coming out soon?

 

[tobyfat50]

Not too soon I'm afraid. My computer got a virus and I have to reinstall everything plus I barely managed to almost finished all of the draft. After I finish it I have to finalize the project which will take some time as well but I'll post some updates when I can.

Project Status 80%

 

[Restor]

as a terrain it was masterpiece.


Honestly - the terrain could be more useful in some "normal cinematic", so in other words - it is pity it's used just like this.

 

[NourmeusXL]

Damnn then il just w8 for it and work on my cinematic

 

[tobyfat50]

Ok so I finally fixed my computer and started to work on ep 2 again however I am going to spend more time doing research on new technologies and techniques for my cinematic. Thanks to Travaj optimizing and shading techniques my map will be more cutting edge in cinematics and I`M ALSO going to use some of my new systems. I`l post a demonstration for you guys about it.

This whole thing is starting to become complicated I think it`s time to make a thread!

 

[tobyfat50]

Soo... I wasted 2 weeks on doing research for a awesome shadow system that nobody actually ever thought about, ever. Also invented some new tech which I'm going to use in ep 2. Here is a sneak peek of the systems and ep 2. Spoilers don't watch if you don't want.

Spoilers

The new tech

I know you may say you seen this before but it's a new shadow technique that uses no bake textures but shadow maps and multi UVW map channels like modern games Thanks to wick You can preserve HQ textures and even add bumping.
--Bump system by Travaj--

 

[xorkatoss]

awesome cinematic man! can't wait for the other episodes

 

[tobyfat50]

Also I would like to thank Travaj for the valuable information he gave me on techniques, thanks to which I made this discovery. If you didn't go there already I suggest you take a look at what he does. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/map-development-202/memento-mori-231499/

 

[Talavaj]

The shadow maps are of ridiculous quality man. I still didn't have time to test out everything you gave me I'll pm you later.

Looking forward to next episodes ! I'm sure the other two will be even more amazing.

 

[tobyfat50]

It's just a unfinished render, I rushed a test model for it, the foliage is imperfect.

 

[RED BARON]

Holy shit those images look amazing, can't believe that is actually WC3? Also good looking the other stuff as well

Final comment: Glad to hear your enjoying and going to enjoy life, but I do believe that future kids might not mind a father able to make such nice stuff

 

[Tristan_kyle_2000]

It says ''Map size is too big"

 

[ianskie]

fatal error... (

 

[tobyfat50]

Almost finished the draft, but there will be a lot of work to be done on the finishing touches, almost as much as the draft itself. I want it to be a good quality so I don`t know when I`l be finished. I hope I'll upload this year but I promise it will blow your minds.

 

[Bboy Moose]

You are awesome sir.

 

[NourmeusXL]

im glad u finaly started to work on the 2th part of this awazing cinematic,and from what you said and what i seen on the pics u posted im having BIG expentetions of the next part.

 

[tobyfat50]

Finally back. I was on some business trip and it looks like I'll be working on a online game, hope it will work out. Nothing to feel proud about yet. If I finish it I'll let you guys in on it. After I returned, Had a little time to work on that lighting in one of my scenes.
I was using simple omni lights like a idiot before
I found out about "Radiosity".
Here are some screenshots for the new stuff I'll be implementing. The 2 pics show the different
lighting in the scenes. Instead of using wc3 simple and petty lighting wich looks simple and flat, I used a
"Radiosity solution" with "Area Shadows" in 3ds max + The help of the new UV mapping shadow System I discovered for wc3.
(no double mesh required).The "Radiosity solution" makes a more realistic lighting to
interior and exterior scenes by calculating the way light bounces on objects.
Warcraft 3 normal lighting

Before

Advanced Light using Radiosity

After

As a bonus I Animated the shadows in the room scene but it looks like "a shit play" of bad textures because I had reduce the size of the shadow maps to 128px and there are a lot of objects bachet together for shading (only 2 ob w 256px). As a result it makes horrible animated pixels on the objects and also the whole room has 10mb in size. (The shadow animations is only 8 frames per object with 177 textures in total, the shadows don`t mach the light bulb but I don't care). So animating the shadow doesn't seem like it's worth it. Could only be used for simple scenes and things. Perhaps I animated the wrong scene, should've just left it with static shadows but the moving light bulb was just asking otherwise. THE Budha scene will be different since it's dark. One small notice of mine - Think I'll keep the room unshaded in the materials option, cause the modulate 2x layer does a good job adding the light and shadows in one pass so I won't be using a add layer. I'll leave it like this since the Radiosity and Area Shadows look impressive.
How the radiosity solution looks like without textures

Some Map Updates and Info

My influence map. Here are some images I found on the web. This is a feel for how ep 2 will be like.

Influence map

There are mostly terrains but this ep will have more action and the focus is more on the characters and events that the terrains.

This is a tile I'l be using in ep 3, already planed it out. Yes I`m going to turne it into a horor Sf.

Tile

Terrain generated in Brice 3d

Mountains

The whole Cinematic reached 20min and over 100mb. (one of the reasons it`s taking so long to realease)

Here is a list of the techniques I'll be using in ep 2:

1. Play cinematic camera mdx Function
2. Havok Physics
3. Teapot UVW MULTI MAPPING (multi- UV Mapping, the shadow technic)
3. Bump Mapping
4. Reflections
5. Image generated Tile Terrain (Ultra Tiles) - Ep 3 will be made completely using this method.
6. Radiosity + Area Shadows

From now on something like this will be easily achievable and with optimal results in the good old Warcraft 3.

Game

Of course I'll make a tutorial explaining everything but the project takes priority. After I finish it I'll make one.

Feeling pretty tired so I`m going to take a litle vacation. I won`t be working on ep 2, probably will work only when I feel like . The cinematic is almost finished but implementing all the stuff in to it will probably take more time than the map itself so I can't tell you a approximate release date.

 

[Talavaj]

That looks nuts man, what is the render time and texture size of the shadow maps in the scene ?
I'm slightly confused though, do you render with radiosity then bake the shadow maps ?
I have been using mental ray with global illumination and photometric lighting for bakes but the render times are horrendous.