Noob Question - Would I Need Triggers For This Spell

[DrunkenKangaroo]

I know this is a nooby question but, I need to make a spell which is Cleaving Attack with Frost Attack. So would I need triggers for this?

 

[Daelin]

I'm not sure if non-triggered works but maybe. Just base your hero off Lich and give the hero the Cleaving Attack skill. Lich automatically does frost attack so combined with Cleaving Attack it should do Frost Cleaving Attack. Not sure though...

 

[DrunkenKangaroo]

Ok. I'll try that.

 

[Xeridanus]

Isn't Cleaving attack passive? If it is, then you could just give frost attack and cleaving attack to a unit and they should both activate when it attacks.

 

[Eusira]

Some attack-based abilities don't stack, but I think this one will. For example, you can have a Pitlord with an Orb of Frost who can still cleave, and blademasters with Orbs who still critical strike. And critical strike and cleaving attack are similar skills

 

[Angel.of.Doom]

Lich automatically does frost attack

No he doesnt.....

 

[Daelin]

And you could tell me the skill the Lich uses to gain his Frost attack? I for one don't see it between his skills so... How can he gain it?

 

[shiggityshwa]

The lich never gets a frost attack just frost spells.

I don't think you can do this with out triggers because the cleaving attack is based on damage and just damage no other magic effects. So of course passive damage skills stack with it.

What you could do is maybe make a trigger that creates a dummy unit and casts a frost nova with no damage and the AOE of the cleaving attack every time the hero attacks. Then just give him a normal cleaving attack for him to learn.

 

[Bibendus]

Cleaving attack is a simple splash damage that works ONLY with melee attacks. With ranged you should simply add splash area on Attack Properties and use "missle (splash)" as attack type.
Frost attack needs "missle (splash)" attack type and a splash area or it will not work. That means that cant be used on melee attacks or normal missle attack that affects only 1 target (use frost orb for that).

To get a melee attack that does a frost attack witouth using triggers you can use missle (splash) attack type and a range of 100, take out the missle art and it will look fine. You cant use cleave attack but you can give a fixed splash damage on the attack (maybe can be increased with upgrades).
The problem is that you could have some problems with vampiric and trueshot aura that affect only melee and ranged attacks...