Melee map challenge #2

[SA Dashie]

The Hive Workshop

Melee map Challenge #2

• Challenge results must be bug-free.
• Copy and paste techniques are not permitted.
• No exports from other games are acceptable.

Challenge Theme:

Subject:
Melee Map

Theme:
Any

Challenger:
DeathChef

Opponent(s):
Bugz

Challenge Duration:
10 days


Proposed Reputation Award:
12 points


Challenge judging:
-Kobas-
Vengeancekael


Map-specific conditions:
Imports allowed: No

Optimization/protection: No

Maximum Map size: 160 x 160

 

[Bugz]

Sure. Find a judge atm.

 

[-Kobas-]

I suggest yot to take 10 days instead 7, maps was unfinished and horrible created in last one
And if Bugz want I can judge this one as well

 

[SA Dashie]

done .
I could finish a decent melee/terrain in 1-3 days anyway but ok.

 

[Bugz]

Sure , can we wait some weeks?

 

[SA Dashie]

we can start when we want as I have plenty of my own maps to go on with but I can wait.

 

[Bugz]

k, i am going school atm :/

 

[Bugz]

We can start whenever you want

 

[SA Dashie]

this contest will start when I am a bit more free with mapping.
Maybe a thew days after mini mapping contest #5.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Wait so what happened to this?

 

[SA Dashie]

We will start this when Bugz gets a PC to use Wc3 on.

 

[Bugz]

I got one that i can do it on. We can start whenever this gets approved

 

[Pharaoh_]

Approved. Good luck.

Ends on 11/11.

 

[-Kobas-]

Just let me know should I judge this one when you finish
Good luck guys

 

[Bugz]

Yes you should. Thanks for the approvement.

 

[SA Dashie]

Time to see if I can make an approvable melee map .

 

[Bugz]

I pretty much completed the middle of the map, just gonna polish it. And then to the start spawns.

 

[SA Dashie]

Here is the current progress of my map and is fully playable .
All I have to do now is the tile set and place doodads to make the terrain look better.

 

[-Kobas-]

Don't forget to calculate shadows when you finish everything.
Also use some more tiles

 

[SA Dashie]

All I have to do now is the tile set and place doodads to make the terrain look better.

thanks for checking it out and also I already know all that xD.
But thanks for being precautions.
Also I haven't used any different tiles other than thick grass and the other tile that is just grass is apart off the blizzard cliffs.

 

[Bugz]

Yeh early wip, i got 6 hours in train later.

 

[SA Dashie]

My map should be finished by late tomorrow .

 

[SA Dashie]

Finished!

I have finished my map and before the dead line so I may get a chance of any criticism to hopefully do any small edits of my map that people don't like.
Also my melee map in my opinion turned out better than most of Blizzards melee maps.

 

[-Kobas-]

Instead of so many fountains, place there other neutral passive buildings, shops for example or mercenary camps.
Terrain is more or less empty, add flowers, mushrooms, rocks, shrubs etc etc.

 

[Bugz]

Here it is, i just need to place doodads and stuff.

 

[SA Dashie]

Instead of so many fountains, place there other neutral passive buildings, shops for example or mercenary camps.
Terrain is more or less empty, add flowers, mushrooms, rocks, shrubs etc etc.

Sure I'll try and do that.

 

[SA Dashie]

Here is my edited entry as requested by -Kobas-.
If there is anything else that isn't done quite right I might be able to make another final entry.
Also bugs the challenge will be over in about 5 hours, but if you need any more time the challenge can be extended to the end of tomorrow instead.

 

[Bugz]

Hmm.. i am sick... would be nice to have the rest of the day. My current version is pretty outdated and i made another one on another computer ._.

GOD, i think i am gonna lose this one aswell....

 

[SA Dashie]

I have updated my map on my post above due to forgetting to edit something small.
Also bugz you only have the rest of today ._.

 

[Bugz]

Finished.

 

[-Kobas-]

Expect reviews tomorrow then

 

[Vengeancekael]

I've already rejected Bugz' map <(^-^)>
So I guess your rating shouldn't be too high

 

[Bugz]

That was from another challange.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Oh. Well then I better check this one.

 

[Bugz]

Sure, you want to judge both?

 

[SA Dashie]

Vengeancekael if you want you can also be a judge .

 

[-Kobas-]

Ok here are the results.
I checked both maps and I was disappointed.

Bugz used terrain mirroring well to balance terrain, but still he placed rock golem next to dark wizard.
Item drop was bad in his map as well, any creep was able to drop artifact or just simple healing potion.
Same goes for DeathChef map, he created some useless tables for nothing.
Both maps miss doodads, DeathChef spammed with trees, Bugz miss them.
No one added special effects to enchant terrain a little, no one mixed different terrain types doodads.
There are few more things that I won't mention right now, but after everything said above my vote go to DeathChef because he created 3 player map and used more or less custom item drop.

Dunno what to say more, both maps are close (speaking about quality)...

 

[Bugz]

Well i tought a little about that... and congratz Deathchef!

 

[Vengeancekael]

Wait, I hope the rep awards aren't given out yet.
I will be able to judge this as well tomorrow.

 

[Bugz]

They arent, it usally take quite some time before reps are fixed.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Seeing how the award is 12 rep points, any mod could hand them out ;P So it shouldn't take too long.
Anyways, expect my reviews in 2 hours.

edit:

Bugz:

• Only 1 random item set, add multiple for higher level creeps
• Random few flowers close to the starting points, I don't see how they would fit to the rest of the environment
• Symmetric
• No creeps near tavern
• The passage to the 4 creep spots at the center of the map isn't wide enough and can cause a lot of disadvantages for both sides when it comes to a battle, it's not very strategical
• Enough wood
• Bonus Goldmines
• Not enough terrain tile variation
• Only a few types of doodads used (trees, some random flowers which don't fit, rocks, also don't use rock archways, stone ones would have fit better)
• Some red creeps would have been nice, maybe replace the 2 shops at the left and right side of the map with giant dragons, etc.

Rating: 2/5 (Although I'd love if you changed some of the above things before uploading it in the maps section)

DeathChef:

• Not quite symmetric
• Too many trees spammed at one point
• A lot of terrain tile variation, nice use of water, very smooth river and looks very forest like/realistic
• The yellow creeps on the cliffs are a bit random and a bit too much in the middle of the a location, they're also blocking the way, so you HAVE to kill them in order to pass to another point
• Different item tables for higher level creeps
• Bonus Goldmines close to each base
• Creeps in front of the goldmines are red, not very good, replace them by yellow ones and add one strong red creep somewhere else on the map
• No one guarding the tavern
• Fitting doodads used, also not too empty or random and shrubs close to trees
• Enough wood
• Every passage is wide enough and a lot of open areas for battles

Rating: 2.5/5 (still not 3/5) (Can be uploaded to the maps section in its current state)

My vote also goes to DeathChef.

 

[Pharaoh_]

Congratulations

 

[Bugz]

You know that i got red creeps?... Anyways congratz

 

[scorpion182]

2 vs 2.5? both maps are the winners

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

Good luck!

 

[SA Dashie]

I may upload my map to the map section soon, but I may not untill I fix those negative things.
Also I thought that trees had to have not have any space in between them so small units can't swerve in between them. It appears that that doesn't occur for a whole melee map.
Oh yeh and -Kobas- I created item tablets so I don't have to create them for each individual unit. Is that a problem that I need to fix?

 

[-Kobas-]

Oh yeh and -Kobas- I created item tablets so I don't have to create them for each individual unit. Is that a problem that I need to fix?

It isn't but you have like 20 units all together
There was no need.

I suggest them for maps wit 6+ players that can have up to 100 creeps that drop items.