How we put or import weapons into models??

[zarltok]

i have some fiew models in my map that as no weapons
so i want to know how could i put anykind of weapons into the caracter?

 

[Ramza]

use the special effect triggers or use the sphere ability from the bloodmage (set cooldown to 0, target to imported weapon and attachments to hand, left or right)

 

[zarltok]

mmm

thank you for the help but i still not understand

hum 1st: do we have to get an attachement from import?
or we could take weapons from other
orginal warcraft models...

becose my map is already full of models so i want to know if i can put orginal weapons instead of import custom weapons..

2nd:when i have weapon.. where exacly do i put it to make a specific unit to detect the weapon?

in ( Art-Target Attachement Point 1)
string: Right hand

is it how we do it????
and where do i bring the model into ...unit? or ability? after do i bring model into affect??

 

[Ramza]

u cant use original weapons, u must import them

u should use string: 'hand, right' or 'hand, left' just look at blood lust and copy the strings iif it doesnt work

i said, use the sphere ability, the bloodmage uses it. just go to object editor, make custom ability and base it on sphere. then change cooldown to 0, target to the imported weapon and attachment point to 'hand, right' or 'hand,left'

 

[zarltok]

it doesnt work

i did do every thing u told me but it doesnt work

my blood mage as no weapon on is hand

art-Target : clawshand 1
art -AttachementPoint 1 : hand, right
Stats- Cooldown : 0.00

and this is in ability of Sphere
- i deleted all other attachment with sphere and its the only thing i did.....

but after i tryed to put it into blood mage

Ability : Default Active Ability : Sphere

what did i do wrong??????

 

[Ramza]

1) u selected the wrong sphere, use ur custom made one

or

2) the model doesnt work

 

[zarltok]

the model work

my model do work becose i have a predator hero and is claws are attached to him so i took is claws and i wanted to transfer it into my sphere custom spell

hum still doesnt work..... becose my bloodmage is a new skin soo i tryed 2 heros

bloodmage : new skin
and panadin :

i took off all there strings and i puted : right,hand

none of them as the claws

is it becose blood mage as a different skin from the original? if yes...

why did hero paladin attachement (with sphere spell)
did not work

is it becose of my spell?? becose i used a custom abiltiy (sphere) and it still dont work!!

i know that my model do work soo im sure im missing a
something in my spell propreties or the hero propreties

plz help me ( im almost there!)

 

[Ramza]

i rly cant help u further, at most huys i helped it worked the first time, ur the only one that responded like 3-4 times 8) i dunno what u r doing wrong. maybe follow the steps agina of my previous posts, dunno

 

[Matt540 sheep god!]

Go to the object editor, hit item - capture the flag, scroll down to art - target, put in the model file, then go to attachment points - target (or something like that) and type the attachment point in this format:

______________________________________________________

body part 1
body part 2 (for hand attachments)

Where it goes
______________________________________________________

*ahem*

So...here are the points.

______________________________________________________

hand
right

Attaches model to right hand
------------------------------------------------------

______________________________________________________

hand
left

Attaches model to left hand
------------------------------------------------------
______________________________________________________

head

Attaches model to head (helms and junk like that)
------------------------------------------------------
______________________________________________________

overhead

Attaches model to the very top of it (good for things like items horses have showing people are riding them)
------------------------------------------------------
______________________________________________________

chest

Attaches model to chest area
------------------------------------------------------
______________________________________________________

origin

Attaches model to origin of unit; useful for auras.
------------------------------------------------------
______________________________________________________

foot
left

Attaches model to left foot of the unit
------------------------------------------------------
______________________________________________________

foot
right

This attackes to the right feet of the units
------------------------------------------------------
______________________________________________________

 

[Ramza]

matt, why u keep saying u should use the flag thing? i think sphere is easier cuz it also Is an effect adder and u only have to change a little stuff

 

[Mecheon]

Sphere fires the attachment as a missile at the opponent. The flag, which is designed as an attaching thing, doesn't

 

[Ramza]

it only firers the missle if u give it a missle art. rly, cuz i use spheres myself

 

[Swashthwewyouwweenee]

matt, why u keep saying u should use the flag thing? i think sphere is easier cuz it also Is an effect adder and u only have to change a little stuff

I tried em both, and flag is alot easier sir. If your attaching a sword or something to the right hand (like he probibly wats) you just change the model file. That simple. Hahah owned. *cough*pointlessjoke*cough*

 

[Thunder_eye]

I wasnt sure if I could upload this in the spell section or something, so I used another sites pastebin.

It shows 3 ways of adding a weapon to a unit.
Special Effect
Ability
Item
(ability and item is pretty much the same)

http://www.wc3campaigns.net/pastebint.php?t=84215&code=5b950d648e1fd2da9a0eec8e83defe7e

hope you understand how to use it

 

[zarltok]

wow

now i am confuse

is it better to use the flag or the sphere?

becose i tryed sphere and it doesnt work

so i bet flag would work??

becose u said its easyer.. i just want an right or left hand attachement for a sword or a hammer or claws

hum ill try ur flag spell attachement...

 

[Thunder_eye]

flag is better

 

[Ramza]

flag and sphere are excactly the same, except that flag is used by an item and sphere by a unit. i just use sphere so u dont have to change it to a unit ability, thats all

 

[boegen]

I don't get it... For me, the flag has no attachment point
Help?

 

[zarltok]

thx alote every thing works

i used Flag and it worked ...

so thx a lot for the help

 

[Thunder_eye]

flag and sphere are excactly the same, except that flag is used by an item and sphere by a unit. i just use sphere so u dont have to change it to a unit ability, thats all

No they arent, flag is much better and faster to change.
For sphere you need to change:
Missile Art
Target
Target Attachment Point 1
Target Attachment Point 2
Target Attachment Point 3
Target Attachments
(and maybe Cooldown, not sure, probably not)

For flag, you need to change:
Target
Target Attachment Point 1 (only incase he's not attaching a weapon)

 

[Ramza]

ok u got to change more, but is it rly harder? missle art is not neccesery, only if u want it to have a different missle art then regular one. and changing cooldown is better yes, set it to 0 or special effect disappears when the unit with sphere attacks

 

[Thunder_eye]

Well the question was which one was the better, and as there is lesser things to change on the flag (= lesser time consuming, especially if you have lots of abilities ) I'd say that the flag is better.

 

[zarltok]

reply

Yes the flag is way better to use (really faster)

and i have 1 more question....
is there a way to delete weapon from original model or you only could put it on the left hand side for two handed swords??

 

[Thunder_eye]

yes ofc there is! it's called model editing.
You can make a search for tutorials, you could also check out Whitehorns here on wc3sear

 

[zarltok]

I have a another question!

i have a question


is there a way to set ur import weapon into ur caracter without using a item

i just want to use it into a
-active ability or
-abilty normal

but when i set the ability (weapon attached) it dont work..

the only way to detect a weapon is by an item??

 

[Ramza]

ofcourse not, i ketp saying u could also use 'sphere' is a normal unit abilty also used by the bloodmage, just do these steps:

1) change target
2) change attachment points
3) set cooldown to 0
4) remove missle art

give this ability to the unit u want and it gets the weapon

 

[zarltok]

ok

my ability attachment works but the weapon shows where the feets are.. and i know i did the attachment point ----hand,right----

whats is the probleme?

 

[zarltok]

ok

my ability attachment works but the weapon shows where the feets are.. and i know i did the attachment point ----hand,right----

whats is the probleme?

and by the way my ability is set in Ability -Normal

 

[Ramza]

hm.. thats weird, maybe below, under attachments, change the number to how many attachments u use

 

[zarltok]

oh

The attchment point Number was set at 3

so i changed the number into 1

and it worked!!! so now i guest i will not have any probleme to work with weapons

ty again

 

[zarltok]

something is wierd

i just have a another probleme with attachment

-when i cast a spell...(depends witch one) an extra sword appears on the ground at the End of the spell animation....it stays on the ground for 3 second

how could I take that off??

 

[Ramza]

i dont know, cuz i dunno how ur trigger is, or what effects u used

 

[zarltok]

ok

i dont use triggers for that spell

anyway it shows on the ROAR spell

the attachement of current unit stick on roar after 3 sec at the end...

 

[Ramza]

ohyes, the roar spell is bugged. i used it once for a spell and the roar icon And buff apeared on the casting unit. just base it on another spell and its done

 

[FunkyDude44]

Personally i create a new item and have the ability Item Damage or Armor Bonus. i change the target model to the weapon or armor and the target attachment point 1 to hand,right or hand,left. i change the bonus to whatever i see fit, make a hero put both item and hero in map, and bam, when you pick up the
item you should have your bonus, and item should look equiped. I tried this with armor on chest but it didnt work, i think it was just the model though. 8)

 

[Oliver]

there is another way... imo its harder tho, u could geomerge the models thogether, ud need to know how to do it n get the software, but u can et the software free n ppl write tutorials for geomergeing n stuff. U could also use your newly gained power to edit the models, but tis harder. Just go with a trigger
event- unit enters entire map
condition- uni equal to (unit you wnana have weapon on)
Action- create special effect on left hand (or right hand) of triggering unit

 

[condor-elite]

ok well i want the same as the poster but i couldnt find the capture the flag in items i understand the whole thing but i just cant fint it

 

[Roni]

Go to the object editor, hit item - capture the flag, scroll down to art - target, put in the model file, then go to attachment points - target (or something like that) and type the attachment point in this format:

Wtf were the hell is capture the flag in the item tab?

 

[@krep]

someone show it with pictures. i could't put this attachments!!..

Finally, i learned of this from http://world-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/attachments.php

 

[zarltok]

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[zarltok]

here is a screen shot




here is a little preview how u do it