help with lagging

[AlphaChicken]

does putting too many triggers in a map (even if they arent compex) make it lag up or slow down more?

 

[VGsatomi]

Triggers is only one of the things that can slow down a map. Typically triggers will slow down the loading of a map more then the actualy map play. It also depends on the type of triggers. Trigger length makes no difference, but trigger effects do, mainly special special effects and such.
-VGsatomi

We discussed a little on fixing lag on maps here:
http://www.wc3sear.ch/viewtopic.php?t=1704

 

[Sopho]

Triggers can disconnect players or crash wc3 because of the heavy data its loading sometimes (eg: create 99 footman at once in locations)
Triggers can greatly effect gameplay

 

[Dread The Undead]

once in my map i made Multiboard and its made the whole map extremly lag
i guess multiboard is one of the laggy triggers (atleast the multiboard worked fine )

 

[Sopho]

Creating units cause alof lag

 

[Panto]

The first time you use a model, be it for a unit or a spell, the map lags. If you preplace all the models you can be using, it will cause a longer load time but then no visible lag when the units come to being in the map for the first time.

I've never had any lag issues whatsoever with my multiboard. You might want to post your code, Dread the Undead.

Triggers that deal with everything in the map can cause lag if there are lots of units or objects that it's dealing with. Think about how many of different kinds of objects you have, and if you can cut back on any of them. Furthermore, think about how to best deal with only the units you need to deal with. For example, try to avoid things like "Pick Every Unit in Playable Map Area".

Generally, a trigger itself won't cause lag unless you put it together in such a way that it's doing more than it should. If you posted some of the triggers that you're worried about, we could offer some input about them.

 

[AlphaChicken]

yeah i would but it is a group of like thirteen triggers that conrol the spawning of units for a whole team. ill try to post them.

 

[AlphaChicken]

team 1 initialization
Events
Map initialization
Conditions
Actions
Trigger - Turn off make footmen gods red <gen>
Trigger - Turn off make footmen gods blue <gen>
Trigger - Turn off make footmen gods yellow <gen>


Make units Footmen red
Events
Time - Every 5.00 seconds of game time
Conditions
Actions
Unit - Create 1 Footman for Player 1 (Red) at (Position of Dark Barracks 0018 <gen>) facing Default building facing degrees


Make units Footmen blue
Events
Time - Every 5.00 seconds of game time
Conditions
Actions
Unit - Create 1 Footman for Player 2 (Blue) at (Position of Dark Barracks 0023 <gen>) facing Default building facing degrees


Make units Footmen yellow
Events
Time - Every 5.00 seconds of game time
Conditions
Actions
Unit - Create 1 Footman for Player 5 (Yellow) at (Position of Dark Barracks 0024 <gen>) facing Default building facing degrees


footmen god upgrade red
Events
Unit - A unit Finishes research
Conditions
(Owner of (Triggering unit)) Equal to Player 1 (Red)
(Researched tech-type) Equal to Footman God
Actions
Trigger - Turn off Make units Footmen red <gen>
Trigger - Turn on make footmen gods red <gen>


footmen god upgrade blue
Events
Unit - A unit Finishes research
Conditions
(Owner of (Triggering unit)) Equal to Player 2 (Blue)
(Researched tech-type) Equal to Footman God
Actions
Trigger - Turn off Make units Footmen blue <gen>
Trigger - Turn on make footmen gods blue <gen>


footmen god upgrade yellow
Events
Unit - A unit Finishes research
Conditions
(Owner of (Triggering unit)) Equal to Player 5 (Yellow)
(Researched tech-type) Equal to Footman God
Actions
Trigger - Turn off Make units Footmen yellow <gen>
Trigger - Turn on make footmen gods yellow <gen>


make footmen gods red
Events
Time - Every 5.00 seconds of game time
Conditions
Actions
Unit - Create 1 Footman General for Player 1 (Red) at (Position of Dark Barracks 0018 <gen>) facing Default building facing degrees


make footmen gods blue
Events
Time - Every 5.00 seconds of game time
Conditions
Actions
Unit - Create 1 Footman General for Player 2 (Blue) at (Position of Dark Barracks 0023 <gen>) facing Default building facing degrees


make footmen gods yellow
Events
Time - Every 5.00 seconds of game time
Conditions
Actions
Unit - Create 1 Footman General for Player 5 (Yellow) at (Position of Dark Barracks 0024 <gen>) facing Default building facing degrees


stop spawning red
Events
Unit - Dark Barracks 0018 <gen> Dies
Conditions
Actions
Trigger - Turn off Make units Footmen red <gen>
Trigger - Turn off make footmen gods red <gen>


stop spawning blue
Events
Unit - Dark Barracks 0023 <gen> Dies
Conditions
Actions
Trigger - Turn off Make units Footmen blue <gen>
Trigger - Turn off make footmen gods blue <gen>


stop spawning yellow
Events
Unit - Dark Barracks 0024 <gen> Dies
Conditions
Actions
Trigger - Turn off Make units Footmen yellow <gen>
Trigger - Turn off make footmen gods yellow <gen>


all of these triggers are in a folder called "army team 1" there will be four folders like this. Each folder will manage 3 players. will this cause the game to lag?

 

[Panto]

You can quite easily combine each of the sets of triggers that do the same thing for different players into one trigger each that does that for all the players.

That *will* cut down on lag.

You can either run the actions individually for each player in the trigger, run them for number players using Player Index, or add the appropriate players to a player group and use a Player Group - Pick every Player in xxx and do yyy action.

 

[AlphaChicken]

but those triggers will make it lag?

 

[Sopho]

Yes it may

 

[AlphaChicken]

ok then how do i combine the triggers? i want each team to be seperate and also when one player dies i dont want the others buildings to stop making units. only the player whos building dies should stop making units and be defeated. the same goes with the upgrades. one upgrade should work for one player on a team not all of them.


i could combine them but then i dont know how to make the upgrades and defeats seperate. how do i do this?