F-16 and Mig-31

[Feanor_]

I've been looking to update the models used in WWZ with more accurate ones for quite some time and I have found that these models simply don't exist. Is anyone willing to make them?

If you are please do not put any team color areas on the skin of the models, just the standard army paintjob.

Also please don't send me links to the RA2 mod that had the Mig-25 model, and links to the F-22 model. I'm already using both. I really am looking for the F-16 and Mig-31.


Mig-31

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/mig-31.htm


F-16

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-16.htm

 

[Feanor_]

I'm going to bump this, in the hopes that someone responds.

 

[Bloody_Demise]

I think the rule is you have to wait two days before you bump

 

[Feanor_]

I believe it was two days.

 

[Feanor_]

Also please don't send me links to the RA2 mod that had the Mig-25 model, and links to the F-22 model. I'm already using both. I really am looking for the F-16 and Mig-31.

Please at least read my post. Believe me the F-16 and F-22 have very distinctive and different designs.

 

[Mechanical Man]

How you are gonna implement the plane system?

 

[Kofi_Banan]

i might do mig 31 , but i wont do t-80UM.

 

[Feanor_]

How you are gonna implement the plane system?

This is an ongoing map that has been hosted on b.net for quite a while. The plane system works like this:
Currently 6 aircraft:
Mig-29 Fulcrum - 10 mana, one spell costs 5 mana 700 range fires a 100 dmg missile that stuns air and ground
Mig-31 Foxhound - 8 mana, 30% evasion, 2 spells (allowing for faster attack) 2000 range 100 dmg missile that only strikes air
F-16 - 10 mana, fires a flame strike spell that costs 2 mana (fairly decent against undead, but destroys tanks very well)
F/A-22 Raptor - 8 mana, 2 spells 2 mana cost each, fires one 100 dmg missile that stuns air or ground
AWACS - provides 1800 LoS and has a farsight spell
CH-47 Chinook - transport aircraft

Also part of the air combat system are two types of AA vehicles:

ZSU-23-4M Shilka - has a weak AA gun attack and fires 700 range AA missiles at 2 mana each, 4 mana total.
S-400 - Fires 2000 range AA missiles. Has 12 mana, each missile costs 2 mana.

And several other units:

Rocket Launcher Trooper - is a infantry unit that can ambush air fairly well.
Frigate - a light naval vehicle that can target air.
Battleship - is a spell casting ship that can cast missiles that can hit air. Also it's immolation hits air. it has farsight, and 1800 LoS like the AWACS.
Aircraft Carrier - can recharge aircraft mana, has a weak attack of it's own that hits both air and ground.
Air Base - builds airplanes and recharges plane mana.

EDIT: All spells require manual targetting (micro them, it really does help). And Kofi thank you for offering to do the Mig-31. It will be appreciated.

 

[Shaynne]

the F-22 Raptor A.K.A in your case F/a-22 is the fasted jet in the air. I heard it can outrun a Mach-5 Missile. so. shouldn't it be the fastest?

I still don't know how to spell that "Mach" part in Mach-5 ... What a shame...

 

[Feanor_]

I don't think so. The Mig-25 and Mig-31 family were the fastest. The Raptor boasts of being able to theoreticaly go Mach-2.42 but Mach-5 is completely unreachable.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/performance/q0239.shtml

http://www.aviationtrivia.homestead.com/fastest.html

All 4 fighter planes have the same speed ingame though. Sometimes balance>reality.

 

[Shaynne]

Omfg Taken In The Wrong Info Again!!!!!

 

[Mechanical Man]

So planes are basically 'projectiles' of airstrike abilities?

 

[Feanor_]

Essentially yes. And they don't regen mana on their own. They need an airbase or Air Carrier for that. And of course they can be shot down.

 

[Feanor_]

I'm going to bump this in the hopes that someone becomes interested in doing an F-16 model.

 

[Feanor_]

And another bump. Hopefully someone will take interest.

 

[Shaynne]

Bump Rules are 2 days not 1 day

 

[Feanor_]

What timezone does the forum use then? Because I made sure to check it was two days since the date and time of the last post.

 

[Kofi_Banan]

I made some work on the mig , but dont expect it soon.

 

[Shaynne]

Wow.. thats awesome +rep!

 

[Feanor_]

Thank you. Looks wonderful. Also kofi a quick question, would you be willing to fix up and skin a Mig-29 model that I have? I didn't make it, I downloaded it in .wrl format, and someone on these forums helped me convert it. I attached it to the post. Anyone else who think they can do it is also welcome to. All help is appreciated.

 

[Kofi_Banan]

Very usefull , i will make Mig 29 basing on this. Here is WIP , dont look at the texture. Both migs should be done by this week. Whole mesh was remade.

Are there more models on those forums ?

 

[Feanor_]

This model didn't come from a forum. It came from a military website that described many different weapons. I can check if they have more models there. Someone on hiveworkshop helped me convert it from .wrl format simply by opening it in Max and then saving as .mdx

And actually the skin looks nice too. Just please don't put any team colors on the final versions. Waiting with impatience

EDIT: Here's the F-16 model done by the same guy

http://cielab3.me.cmu.edu/~soji/aircraft/f16.wrl

And a link to his aircraft models page.

http://cielab3.me.cmu.edu/~soji/aircraft/aircrafte.html

 

[Kofi_Banan]

Does it looks like mig 31 or not lol
()Ill work on the skin , i know()

 

[Feanor_]

http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/mig-31_foxhound.pl

http://www.aviapedia.com/category/fighters/mig-31-foxhound/

http://www.combataircraft.com/aircraft/fmig31.aspx

Here's sites with additional photos and videos. You need to scroll down a bit to see the pics usually. And yes it's definetly starting to come out. I'd check the wings a little closer.

 

[Kofi_Banan]

HmMMMMmm??????????????

 

[Feanor_]

Wonderful. It is definetly recognizable. The color scheme is somewhat confusing though. It looks like desert camo. In any event a well done model. Rep +

 

[I)eath2u4me]

i could use some of those models too in my WW3 map, and there's a new plane in developement, well technically a prototype finishes, called the F-35c which is better then the F/A-22 Raptor

edit: oh and if you need an AMMO SYSTEM for you planes, lemme know. i think how you make them have spells, is kinda hard to use in big wars, and only like 2-4 missiles? well, lemme know. i can make it easier and better

 

[Feanor_]

Bump. Oh and also Kofi the BTR-80 model is gone from the models section. If you don't mind I'd like to upload it to the WWZ forum at pollama, so that people can still have access to it.

I'll try to convince MrApples to add a models section to the site, so that potentially lots of models that don't get accepted else-where could be available there.

 

[Kofi_Banan]

I dont mind if you will note that i made it.

 

[Feanor_]

Of course, of course.

EDIT: Oh and aprox. when can we expect the two migs to be done? I'm just wondering whether I should wait to release the next version to get the models into it, or go ahead and work on it without them.

 

[Kofi_Banan]

till next weekend i think

 

[Feanor_]

So, uh, any updates?