Detect if a unit dies to an ability

[Xzere]

Hello, as the title reads, i wonder if there is a way to detect if a unit dies to a certain ability, if so. How do you do that?

 

[Riki]

You can create a trigger that checks when the ability is cast and then run a near-instant timer that will check if the unit is dead or not.

If I have time, I'll make a test map to show you how.

 

[Uncle]

If the ability deals damage then you can detect this using a Damage Engine.

 

[doom_sheep]

the obvious way is to replace it with a fake ability that only has targeting, then make a dummy unit cast the real ability. then you can check the unit type of the killing unit.

 

[Xzere]

You can create a trigger that checks when the ability is cast and then run a near-instant timer that will check if the unit is dead or not.

If I have time, I'll make a test map to show you how.

I'd appreciate that a lot.

If the ability deals damage then you can detect this using a Damage Engine.

Yes, i use bribes damage engine but i still cant figure it out how to make it work

 

[SuShinoa]

You can also do that :
Thus it haves it limitation since the damage will be pre mitigation from the game so if your spell deal 100dmg and the unit haves likes 200hp and 0 heavy armor it would still kill it.

• Events
  • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
• Conditions
  • (Life of (Target unit of ability being cast)) Less than (Ability: (Unit: (Triggering unit)'s Ability with Ability Code: (Ability being cast))'s Real Level Field Damage ('Hbz2'), of Level: (Level of (Ability being cast) for (Triggering unit)))
• Actions

 

[Xzere]

You can also do that :
Thus it haves it limitation since the damage will be pre mitigation from the game so if your spell deal 100dmg and the unit haves likes 200hp and 0 heavy armor it would still kill it.

• Events
  • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
• Conditions
  • (Life of (Target unit of ability being cast)) Less than (Ability: (Unit: (Triggering unit)'s Ability with Ability Code: (Ability being cast))'s Real Level Field Damage ('Hbz2'), of Level: (Level of (Ability being cast) for (Triggering unit)))
• Actions

Well this would not work for coded damage right?

• Feast Cast
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to X
  • Actions
    • Unit - Cause (Triggering unit) to damage (Target unit of ability being cast), dealing 50.00 damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Life of (Target unit of ability being cast)) Less than 1.00
      • Then - Actions
        • Do things
      • Else - Actions

Would this work properly?

 

[SuShinoa]

Oh with coded damage it's a lot easier !

• Feast Cast
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to X
  • Actions
    • Unit - Cause (Triggering unit) to damage (Target unit of ability being cast), dealing 50.00 damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Life of (Target unit of ability being cast)) Less than 1.00
      • Then - Actions
        • Do things
      • Else - Actions

Would this work properly?

It should work, use 0.31 instead of 1.00 tho.

 

[Xzere]

Oh with coded damage it's a lot easier !

It should work, use 0.31 instead of 1.00 tho.

Alright, problem solved i guess. thank you!

 

[SuShinoa]

Maybe there's some case where "target unit of ability being cast" point to a null since it's dead but from what I know i think unit are not removed instantly on death. Try and see but should work.
Edit maybe add

• Conditions
• (Target unit of ability being cast) Equal to No unit

Edit 2 : equal will mean that your unit has been removed from the game

 

[Uncle]

There's a Damage Event for lethal damage.

 

[doom_sheep]

there's a condition "unit is dead" that is supposed to be more reliable or something than just checking for hp

 

[Xzere]

There's a Damage Event for lethal damage.

Which damage event should that be?

 

[DoomBlade]

Which damage event should that be?

• Game - LethalDamageEvent becomes Equal to 1.00

This is the event, found in the Damage Engine.

 

[Xzere]

• Game - LethalDamageEvent becomes Equal to 1.00

This is the event, found in the Damage Engine.

So how do i make this even work with a certain ability?

 

[Uncle]

So how do i make this even work with a certain ability?

Have a unique dummy unit cast the ability. Then check if the DamageEventSource (damaging unit) is equal to this unit.
So your hero will cast a fake version of the spell that has no effects and then you trigger a Dummy unit to cast the real spell in response to this.
If you need access to the Hero in the LethalDamageEvent trigger you can link the Dummy unit to your Hero using a Hashtable/Unit Indexer when you first create it.

Alternatively, if this is the only damaging spell that your hero has you can do something like this:

• Conditions:
• IsDamageSpell equal to True
• Unit-type of DamageEventSource equal to Your Hero

 

[Xzere]

Have a unique dummy unit cast the ability. Then check if the DamageEventSource (damaging unit) is equal to this unit.
So your hero will cast a fake version of the spell that has no effects and then you trigger a Dummy unit to cast the real spell in response to this.
If you need access to the Hero in the LethalDamageEvent trigger you can link the Dummy unit to your Hero using a Hashtable/Unit Indexer when you first create it.

Alternatively, if this is the only damaging spell that your hero has you can do something like this:

• Conditions:
• IsDamageSpell equal to True
• Unit-type of DamageEventSource equal to Your Hero

Alright, thanks a lot mate!

 

[HerlySQR]

In fact is not necessary have one specific dummy to each ability (if you wanna do this with various abilities) you can add the dummy to a unit group (obviously you need a group for each ability) and when the damage is deal check if the source is in that group and then remove it from that group.