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Debate 3I/atlas

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Debate 3I/atlas
What do you think about the possibility that it's more than just a comet? It has recently attracted media attention for its unusual behavior (outgassing, fragmentation) and whether it's a natural comet or something artificial, with Harvard's Avi Loeb championing the "alien tech" idea, contrasting with mainstream science suggesting it's a peculiar icy body from another star system, a debate reignited by its recent close Earth pass and unusual radio signals.
Comet 3I/ATLAS is an interstellar object, meaning that it comes from outside our Solar System. It is only the third of its kind ever observed, following 1I/ʻOumuamua in 2017 and 2I/Borisov in 2019.
You are invited to comment or debate the position of your choice:infl_thumbs_up:
 
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If we can believe Wikipedia on basic science:
  • The outer reaches of our solar system often called "Oort Cloud" starts around 2000 AU and ends around 227000 AU.
  • One Astronomical unit - Wikipedia is 149597870.700 kilometers ("km")
  • This means that by basic mathematics, the 2000×149597870.700 comes out on my calculator to be 299,195,741,400 km as the radius to the outer edge of the solar system.
  • According again to Wikipedia, the maximum worst case fastest speed at perihelion for the travel of 3I/ATLAS - Wikipedia was a speed of 68.3 km / sec
  • This gives us the total travel time from the edge of the Oort Cloud to the center for this object, if we simply divide 299,195,741,400 km by 68.3 km / sec.
  • On my calculator this gives 4380611147.877013177 seconds.
  • 4380611147.877013177 ÷ 60 seconds is 73010185.79795022 minutes
  • 73010185.79795022 ÷ 60 minutes is 1216836.429965837 hours
  • 1216836.429965837 ÷ 24 hours is 50701.517915243 days
  • 50701.517915243 ÷ 365.25 days is 138.813190733 years

Ergo, this object has been in our solar system for at least 138 years. If we consider the 227000 AU upper bound falloff of our Sun's gravity instead of the 2000 AU interior of the Oort Cloud, we can approximately multiply this number by x100. This would mean the object has been within the range of our Sun's gravity for actually 13880 years.

It's hard to argue with math. If we want to look at an object that has been inside the gravity of our solar system for 13880 years and panic ourselves with the idea that all of a sudden now we are worried it is an alien entity that has recently discovered us, maybe we could do that for entertainment. But one must at least consider that if this is a technological object with intentionality that is pursuing information about our solar system:
- Either it has traveled here at a rate that exceeds our understanding (Because, despite all these thousands of years that it must have been here at its current speed, it was only recently discovered, so it is conceivable that it actually teleported here if you believe in teleportation outside our understanding) or else
- Any determination it made to travel here was decided more than 13880 years in the past, in which case this is not an alien decision that reflects our current society at the least, and it may as well be interested in cave men or dinosaurs moreso than us

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Given the above determination that this object has been in the solar system for 13880 years, most likely giving it your attention could be a government-sponsored distraction from the actual Grey alien - Wikipedia intervention on Earth.

In close encounter claims and ufology​

Greys are often involved in alien abduction claims. Among reports of alien encounters, Greys make up about 50% in Australia, 73% in the United States, 48% in continental Europe, and around 12% in the United Kingdom.[12]: 68  These reports include two distinct groups of Greys that differ in height.[12]: 74 [3]

Abduction claims are often described as extremely traumatic, similar to an abduction by humans or even a sexual assault in the level of trauma and distress. The emotional impact of perceived abductions can be as great as that of combat, sexual abuse, and other traumatic events.[22]

The eyes are often a focus of abduction claims, which often describe a Grey staring into the eyes of an abductee when conducting mental procedures.[3] This staring is claimed to induce hallucinogenic states or directly provoke different emotions.[23]

If we read into it online, those familiar with the Gray alien intervention suggest that:
  • They travel using space-time bubble ships that can go faster than light, which are a metal disk or long tube in shape
  • The logical reason for their intervention on Earth, most likely, is the survival of their own species. In other words, to pre-emptively prevent mankind from traveling among the stars and bringing war to their species
 
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Good point, it has a sound argument.
In a way, we don't have the means to rule out the least likely scenario. If we don't have more evidence, this seems to me to be the most informed position.
 
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